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13 Jun 2014, 21:57
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Tests and interface are great--this is an invaluable resource. One question--is the Q score supposed to match what the Q score on the actual GMAT or GMATprep software would give? Asking because it seems inflated for me (Q47 and Q45 on last 2) as I scored Q36 on actual GMAT taken less than 1 week ago?

It is possible - we will need another 1-2 weeks to dial in the difficulty.
The challenge we have is that the questions are much harder, so the algorithm is different and has to allow for more questions to be answered wrong. Try to focus on the questions you got wrong and learn from the mistakes. Hopefully the good score will inspire you to work extra hard.

P.S. We have made a scoring algorithm update last weekend and I think another is planned for Monday.

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16 Jun 2014, 06:16
Hi bb,

The new interface and analysis features are absolutely brilliant! Thanks very much.

I can attest to there being a few gremlins in the scoring algorithm aswell - I took a Q test today and received a score of 60 on 51 even though I got 12 questions incorrect.

However, my question pertains to the difficulty level of the questions itself.
I've taken 2 CATs on platform 3.0 so far:
CAT 1: no of 600 level questions - 21; no of 700 level questions - 15; no of 500 level questions- 1
CAT 2: no of 600 level questions - 13; no of 700 level questions - 24; no of 500 level questions - 0

whereas, a CAT taken on the old platform had the following breakdown: No of 600 level questions: 3; no of 700 level questions: 34.

Basically, I feel the CAT is not throwing enough 700 level questions at me unless the questions have been reclassified as part of the upgrade. I haven't taken any quizzes to exhaust the 700 level pool. What are your thoughts on this?

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The new interface and analysis features are absolutely brilliant! Thanks very much.

I can attest to there being a few gremlins in the scoring algorithm aswell - I took a Q test today and received a score of 60 on 51 even though I got 12 questions incorrect.

However, my question pertains to the difficulty level of the questions itself.
I've taken 2 CATs on platform 3.0 so far:
CAT 1: no of 600 level questions - 21; no of 700 level questions - 15; no of 500 level questions- 1
CAT 2: no of 600 level questions - 13; no of 700 level questions - 24; no of 500 level questions - 0

whereas, a CAT taken on the old platform had the following breakdown: No of 600 level questions: 3; no of 700 level questions: 34.

Basically, I feel the CAT is not throwing enough 700 level questions at me unless the questions have been reclassified as part of the upgrade. I haven't taken any quizzes to exhaust the 700 level pool. What are your thoughts on this?

Thank you - It depends on your scores
I will review your history and see if anything is off.

On a side note, I am excited to report that we have a new (much much better - fingers crossed) question serving and scoring algorithm in testing right now. I hope we can roll it out over the weekend and ready for Monday. It is supposed to simulate the real GMAT experience, where not all questions are 700-level and you do get super easy questions to throw you off and taunt you... we are getting more evil... it is a good thing, right?
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16 Jul 2014, 00:44
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17 Jul 2014, 21:59
just tried a 3.0 quant cat and the difficulty level seems to be better calibrated (i.e. harder ) now versus a couple weeks ago...great job
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18 Jul 2014, 04:36
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Tests and interface are great--this is an invaluable resource. One question--is the Q score supposed to match what the Q score on the actual GMAT or GMATprep software would give? Asking because it seems inflated for me (Q47 and Q45 on last 2) as I scored Q36 on actual GMAT taken less than 1 week ago?

Just try a GMAT PREP test... you will get the answer
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27 Jul 2014, 09:20
Hey BB,

First of all, I must commend you (and the team, if there is one) for making such a snazzy interface with amazing level of analytics & detail that now make the GMAT Club tests more awesome than they already were!

I had tried one of the quant tests today and the following is the break up of the difficulty level that I had got:-
500 - 3
600 - 6
700 - 28

I got 26 correct (500-0, 600-2, 700-9, numbers next to level indicate incorrect answers) and the score I got was 51. Just wanted to check if the scoring algorithm has been calibrated or should one take the scores with a pinch of salt & move on and work on the weaknesses as indicated by the test (you'd do it anyway )

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13 Aug 2014, 20:37
We have had several new updates released to the tests including a few new features and improvements (also killed a few annoying bugs we found). Right now we are working to speed things up and optimize the statistics. Next on our radar are a few suggestions to improve reports and analytics.

I really appreciate all the input and feedback - feel free to post your suggestions here or send them via the PM
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17 Aug 2014, 14:39
Anybody else practicing on the new platform? I have taken 3 of the new tests and I have scored 51 on all of them. Following is the break up in terms of total number of questions from different difficulty levels, & the number of questions I got correct on each of the tests:-

500 600 700
1.) Test 1:- (3,3) (6,4) (28,19) i.e. 26 correct for a score of 51
2.) Test 2:- (4,4) (7,5) (26,19) i.e. 28 correct for a score of 51
3.) Test 3:- (3,3) (6,6) (28,19) i.e. 28 correct for a score of 51

Is it me who has gotten used to the questions or is it that the questions are slightly less trickier than they were in the CATs on the old platform? Having said that, I do feel that the new platform seems a lot closer to the real GMAT with a mix of questions from varying difficulty levels.

Would be great if some of us can post their experiences on the same.

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17 Aug 2014, 17:03
Anybody else practicing on the new platform? I have taken 3 of the new tests and I have scored 51 on all of them. Following is the break up in terms of total number of questions from different difficulty levels, & the number of questions I got correct on each of the tests:-

500 600 700
1.) Test 1:- (3,3) (6,4) (28,19) i.e. 26 correct for a score of 51
2.) Test 2:- (4,4) (7,5) (26,19) i.e. 28 correct for a score of 51
3.) Test 3:- (3,3) (6,6) (28,19) i.e. 28 correct for a score of 51

Is it me who has gotten used to the questions or is it that the questions are slightly less trickier than they were in the CATs on the old platform? Having said that, I do feel that the new platform seems a lot closer to the real GMAT with a mix of questions from varying difficulty levels.

Would be great if some of us can post their experiences on the same.

Thank you for posting this! Anyone who has taken the CAT's and then taken the GMAT, would appreciate your reports and feedback.
I have one data point from one user so far (via PM) who got 49 on the CATs and then 49 on the GMAT. Any others?
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18 Aug 2014, 02:00
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Thank you for posting this! Anyone who has taken the CAT's and then taken the GMAT, would appreciate your reports and feedback.
I have one data point from one user so far (via PM) who got 49 on the CATs and then 49 on the GMAT. Any others?

No problems bb! I'll keep updating it as I try more of the CATs. I'll also post my real GMAT score(after my second retake, due early September) so that we can see how well the scoring algorithm on the new platform mirrors that of the actual GMAT (unless I have a really bad day on Quant in the GMAT )

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Anybody else practicing on the new platform? I have taken 3 of the new tests and I have scored 51 on all of them. Following is the break up in terms of total number of questions from different difficulty levels, & the number of questions I got correct on each of the tests:-

500 600 700
1.) Test 1:- (3,3) (6,4) (28,19) i.e. 26 correct for a score of 51
2.) Test 2:- (4,4) (7,5) (26,19) i.e. 28 correct for a score of 51
3.) Test 3:- (3,3) (6,6) (28,19) i.e. 28 correct for a score of 51

Is it me who has gotten used to the questions or is it that the questions are slightly less trickier than they were in the CATs on the old platform? Having said that, I do feel that the new platform seems a lot closer to the real GMAT with a mix of questions from varying difficulty levels.

Would be great if some of us can post their experiences on the same.

By the way, here is analysis of GMAT Prep scoring: gmat-prep-software-analysis-and-what-if-scenarios-146146.html
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Hi. The difficulty is somewhat easy to explain though it is subjective for a few reasons.

We determine the difficulty based on the question rank (depending on how well the questions are answered). Similar to how we do it on the forum with the timer. The key question comes in where we set the borders. E.g. You can say that it should be an equal number of 600 and 500 level questions or you can do it based on groupings or something more complicated. I can tell you that the decision was made closely with Bunuel as to determining the difficulty. Hope this helps.

Also, we are going to release a new tweaked algorithm this week. It will likely result into lower scores as the latest batch of data shows that a few folks got q50 and q51 but only 49 on the real test. I will recalculate your scores (these 2 in particular) to give you a consistent perspective (it won't be changed in the system however). The recalculation a are approximate only since it is after the fact.
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21 Sep 2014, 15:41
Hi. I hope it is not too frustrating - it has taken us a bit longer to perfect the algorithm than even the most pessimistic of us anticipated. It has been 3 full months and though it is quite accurate, we are still having to tweak it (probably will continue but much less frequently)
So, sankar245, here is what it does to your scores:

1. Sept18th session. Current score: Q48. Recalculated score: Q47 (72nd percentile)
2. Sept8 session (skipped 3). Current score: Q35. Recalculated score: Q42 (53rd percentile) - wold have been Q44 or Q45 if you did not skip the last 3 (even if you answered them wrong)

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21 Sep 2014, 16:15
Thanks BB.
Thanks for your inputs and the recaibrated score.

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24 Sep 2014, 12:56
Hi BB,

Hope you are doing good.

I took another CAT today and scored a dismal 32 percentile.

I m not really sure as why the score is fluctuating so wildly.
Can you please let me know if this is my actuall level or is it stil the calibration issue!!

Thanks

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24 Sep 2014, 13:09
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Hi BB,

Hope you are doing good.

I took another CAT today and scored a dismal 32 percentile.

I m not really sure as why the score is fluctuating so wildly.
Can you please let me know if this is my actuall level or is it stil the calibration issue!!

Thanks

I have ran it through the latest algorithm (the best and most reliable so far) and it spit out Q42 for this latest session.
You did miss a lot of questions in this one (16, of which you missed 20% of 500, and 40% of 600 and 700 level questions).

P.S. You also missed about 5 in the first 10. That does make an impact.
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30 Oct 2014, 09:47
Hi kushwahanuj28

Please come back to http://gmatclub.com/tests-beta in about 15 hours.
The tests will be wide open and free as a part of our "Free Tests on Holidays" policy. You can try them out just as if you were a paid subscriber.

Good Luck!
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30 Oct 2014, 12:03
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