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17 May 2004, 01:29
Hello everyone

I'm a newcomer on this site. I work in Paris for 5 years now and have decided last month to registrate for my first GMAT on AUgust 5. I'm working with kaplan book + Cd and also with GMAT guide book (ETS).

Even if I know that there can exist a big variance between your score at GMAT CAT tests and the real one, I'd like to know two things according to your experiences :

- in order to have a median GMAT score (650), what is a reasonnable score when you take a GMAT CAT test? Are they evaluated in the same way? I heard some people say that "If you don't go over 700 at the tests, you can not expect to go over 650/670 the d day...

- Furthermore, even if the GMAT is not the only factor to contribute to one's entrance at B-school, what can be a break score (minimum) in order to expect one of the 20 best MBA?

Thanks for answers and thanks for this forum that brings a lot of courage to people working for the GMAT.

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17 May 2004, 12:19
You'll see a big variance between your Kaplan scores and your real scores, if your experience is similar to that of most people. Kaplan's tests are a lot harder than the real thing, so if you use those tests, ignore the scores. I would suggest taking the Powerprep tests first (download free from mba.com). In fact, do these before going too far in the ETS book because you'll see some of the same questions in both.

Also get the Princeton Review book with the CD. It has a better review of the GMAT than Kaplan, and better strategies. Their tests are more like the real thing, especially the RC questions. The CD has 5 tests on it.

If you want to see average and range of GMAT scores for the top schools, go to http://www.businessweek.com to see the rankings, and then see their stats. You can also get more info on these schools, including what criteria they consider most important, on http://www.review.com. From what I've read in the forums, aim for 700+ for Top 10, maybe a little less for Top 20.

Also, one other quick thing - it's "register", not "registrate". Not sure you'd have occasion to use that word in any of your essays, but just in case, you want to be sure to get it right!

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17 May 2004, 20:10
Franck Garcia wrote:
Hello everyone

I'm a newcomer on this site. I work in Paris for 5 years now and have decided last month to registrate for my first GMAT on AUgust 5. I'm working with kaplan book + Cd and also with GMAT guide book (ETS).

Even if I know that there can exist a big variance between your score at GMAT CAT tests and the real one, I'd like to know two things according to your experiences :

- in order to have a median GMAT score (650), what is a reasonnable score when you take a GMAT CAT test? Are they evaluated in the same way? I heard some people say that "If you don't go over 700 at the tests, you can not expect to go over 650/670 the d day...

- Furthermore, even if the GMAT is not the only factor to contribute to one's entrance at B-school, what can be a break score (minimum) in order to expect one of the 20 best MBA?

Thanks for answers and thanks for this forum that brings a lot of courage to people working for the GMAT.

Dear Franck,

I greatly agree with Ms. Loo,
Kaplan can go as high as 100 points below the actual score, but PP is usually within 30 points.

As to the minimum/average score for a school, you can check the school's profile on business week or else and see the average score. Probaby anywhere below 50 points of the average is going to be a bit tough, but not impossible. Thus if a school has 710, you can easily walk in with 670.

A lot of times top 10 won't care about the score but want to keep it high becuase it plays in the rankings.

moreover, if you want to claim superior analytical abilities and get only 40 on math, it will be a conflict/disparity.

By the way, are you trying european or US schools? You said 20 best... Often Europe and USA are very different in what they are looking for... for European schools GMAT is not as important, though they have to keep it for the sake of accreditation. It is totally possible to get in a good European school with less than 600. Not because the school is bad, just not much attention is paid to the GMAT. I had a few friends in Barcelona and Rotterdam with low 600's and high 500's.

--Bogdan.
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18 May 2004, 01:33

First of all you're right for "registrate"...when I reread my message I was just surprised of my own mistake!

I've just loaded the PP test in order to take it this week end. It's now one month since I began my prep work and I need to know where I stand in terms of scores.

In fact I'm looking for a one year program (so probably a european b-school), but which is ranked among the best ones, US included (I think you've easily guess my wish). So I really need a good GMAT.

I'll keep you aware of my results on the PP test and probably study with you the strategy I need to develop in order to maximize my scores.

Thanks a lot.

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18 May 2004, 01:42
Franck Garcia wrote:

First of all you're right for "registrate"...when I reread my message I was just surprised of my own mistake!

I've just loaded the PP test in order to take it this week end. It's now one month since I began my prep work and I need to know where I stand in terms of scores.

In fact I'm looking for a one year program (so probably a european b-school), but which is ranked among the best ones, US included (I think you've easily guess my wish). So I really need a good GMAT.

I'll keep you aware of my results on the PP test and probably study with you the strategy I need to develop in order to maximize my scores.

Thanks a lot.

fontainebleau ?

The average is 707; I think I will need to take my words back
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