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GMAT FORMAT IS CHANGING APRIL 16, 2018 - it will be 30 minutes shorter

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It appears that we are at a bit of a crossroads in terms of new information regarding the shorter, updated GMAT. The biggest news is that the frequency of question types on Verbal has changed--otherwise the test has just become a bit shorter, with fewer experimentals.

Until a test-taker goes in and meticulously writes down exactly how many questions he/she were served of each type on Verbal and Quant, and memorizes it over the course of the test / shares a detailed debrief with those exact numbers, this is going to become mostly a guessing game.

However, we can be happy that all the basics are quite clear at this point, and the only fact left to precisely establish is the precise balance of question types, particularly on Verbal, which according to GMAC does in fact vary from test to test depending on the need for developing new experimental questions in each type, and thus may never be precisely established anyway.

Besides, the much more relevant issue is the number of counted questions per test. My best guess is 12 RC (4 passages), 10 SC, 8 CR, 15 PS and 13 CR.

Good luck on the new test, everyone!

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Do you think the number of counted questions has changed from the previous test? For example do you think the GMAC used to count 12 SC versus 10 SC? Or do you think that is static

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Besides, the much more relevant issue is the number of counted questions per test. My best guess is 12 RC (4 passages), 10 SC, 8 CR, 15 PS and 13 DS.
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Do you think the number of counted questions has changed from the previous test? For example do you think the GMAC used to count 12 SC versus 10 SC? Or do you think that is static
Hi wildhorn,

Since the number of RCs on the GMAT now exceeds the number of SCs, I think it's a reasonable assumption that the balance of counted questions on Verbal has shifted somewhat, whereas on Quant it has stayed the same. Of course there is no way to know for sure, because the old GMAT Verbal section had a whopping 11 experimentals, as opposed to only 6 on the updated exam.

Edit to your previously quoted text: I meant 13 DS (also edited in original post).

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Hi bb, souvik101990,

What about the exam packs that people had bought before the announcement of this change: will they be given free upgrade by GMAC? Is there any relevant communication?

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The exam packs are just databases of questions, so I don't think anything special will be needed there. I guess we'll find out very soon though.
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Hi bb, souvik101990,

What about the exam packs that people had bought before the announcement of this change: will they be given free upgrade by GMAC? Is there any relevant communication?

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The exam packs are just databases of questions, so I don't think anything special will be needed there. I guess we'll find out very soon though.


Yes, but the practise matters. Let's see how GMAC handles the situation.
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Does anyone know how the gmat score table will look with this change?
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Yes, but the practise matters. Let's see how GMAC handles the situation.
I meant that the actual practice test is delivered by the GMATPrep software itself. The exam packs just provide additional databases which the GMATPrep can use. However, when the platform itself changes, you can get new codes if you ask for them. More details here.
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I know there are no definitive answers but can anyone shed some light on the 4 RC passages on the updated exam?

Regarding reduced experimental questions, would you surmise that 1 out of the 4 RC passages (including all 3-5 questions pertaining to it) are experimental? (With the other 3 RC passages and all associated questions counting toward your score?)

Or does GMAT try out one experimental question in each or some of the 4 RC Passage/question sets???

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I know there are no definitive answers but can anyone shed some light on the 4 RC passages on the updated exam?

Regarding reduced experimental questions, would you surmise that 1 out of the 4 RC passages (including all 3-5 questions pertaining to it) are experimental? (With the other 3 RC passages and all associated questions counting toward your score?)

Or does GMAT try out one experimental question in each or some of the 4 RC Passage/question sets???

Thanks for the insight.

Hi coolo,

There is no way to know for sure, since the GMAC will never divulge that information, but I would guess that 2 or 3 of the 4 Reading Comprehension (RC) passages have one question that is unscored/pretest/experimental--in other words, the experimental questions are most likely spread out evenly. To put them all in one passage would unfairly benefit someone who happened to guess his/her way through that particular passage.

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Any debriefs available now for the shorter version of the exams?
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...hold on.

We concluded that the GMATPrep software will be released on 27th.
Now if you go back and check the official GmatPrep download page, it says that the software will be available on 30th. They changed it again!

Should I panic or rather remain calm about it?
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PAcmania wrote:
...hold on.

We concluded that the GMATPrep software will be released on 27th.
Now if you go back and check the official GmatPrep download page, it says that the software will be available on 30th. They changed it again!

Should I panic or rather remain calm about it?

Hi PAcmania,

Sadly, this kind of behavior is typical of the GMAC: promising a release of the updated GMATPrep software by April 30th, then getting people excited by pushing the announced release date ahead to April 27th...and then disappointing people by pushing it back to April 30 all over again. In the world of GMAC, missed deadlines, broken promises and corporate-speak abound. :|

Oh, and don't forget to take screenshots during the tests, just in case the GMATPrep software crashes, which it has been known to do frequently--especially shortly after new versions of the software are released. That being said, the GMATPrep tests are still the very best source of diagnostic/practice CATs, given their official nature.

Have a great weekend, everybody!

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When will be GMATPrep Software gets updated? I don't see any newer version. The version is still same :-(
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It may be April 30 US time. I have been checking on and off all day today but nada.

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GMAC has now removed the April 30 deadline too. Hopefully they do release the updated tests today, otherwise it will be unfair to people who have booked their GMAT considering the deadline previously communicated.

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GMAC has now removed the April 30 deadline too. Hopefully they do release the updated tests today, otherwise it will be unfair to people who have booked their GMAT considering the deadline previously communicated.

Hi sharan05, I agree! Fingers crossed that the people at GMAC will keep their promises. Here is what the GMAC website looked like last night:

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And here is what it looks like today:

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I wonder whether GMAC is about to let us down by pushing back the release date yet again. You can also try checking this page for updates to the desktop software (which now appear unlikely) and this page for the online versions of the tests.

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If someone who uses the online version (I prefer the desktop versions) wants to run a question-type count on the new Verbal sections, then that would be great!

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I hope that GMAC isn't lazy and updates the desktop versions for Windows and Mac as well.

EDIT: Yup, they were lazy, and/or they wanted to force a migration to the new cloud-based online software. Sayonara, GMATPrep desktop software...it was good knowing you. :sad:

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New Official GMAT Exam Prep Quantitative 31 and Verbal 36 Questions.

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OK, I ran a question-type count on the new (online) Verbal section of Exam 1, and here is what I found:

15 SC, 13 RC, 8 CR.

Make of that what you will! Also note that this balance/frequency of question Verbal types on the new GMATPrep tests does NOT appear to reflect their true proportions on the actual GMAT, based on the debriefs we've read so far, which suggest that RC is now the most common question type.

Keep in mind that I only ran one simulation. It is entirely possible that every GMATPrep test now has a slightly different balance of question types, much like the real GMAT itself, due to the random distribution of experimental questions by type.

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OK, I ran a question-type count on the new Verbal section of Exam 1, and here is what I found:

15 SC, 13 RC, 8 CR.


Was it online or GMATPrep Software?
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