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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   14 Apr 2020, 20:26
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1. Yes. It will affect your performance.
2. I am not sure that section order affects performance really. GMAT used to be fixed 3 years ago and then section order was introduced and supposedly it did not make it easier... so removing it may seem to be inconvenient but supposedly not harder.



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even i am little spectacle about this interim gmat.
it would be great if you help a littlebb
1)using this desktop feature to take notes will not affect our speed?
after all you have select the white board option and pen/pencil/shape/text option before writing/drawing anything on the board.
Erase it to solve other question. Consider a quant problem where combination of numbers, text and shapes is used. One has to select text to write one line ,then select a shape to draw. Then how will i label the sides of the triangle i have drawn? or make any notes on the diagram itself or shade a portion of diagram if needed. Some time and comfort level will be lost in doing all of it.
will this not affect our solving speed?
2)also, since now we had option to select the order of section in actual gmat, which we do not have in this interim gmat format. Do you think this change matters? Because otherwise i would have selected verbal and then quant. So does this affect our performance?
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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   14 Apr 2020, 21:07
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Hi BB,
I had a small request to make.
if you get the change to speak to them or raise any questions, would you please be kind enough to raise the question below:

1. Most of us India are stuck in different places and may not have our passports with us. in such a situations, would a driving license, or a AADHAR card, or a Tax Identification (PAN) card work?

thanks a lot!
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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   14 Apr 2020, 22:15
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Do you know if we can practice with the whiteboard before registering for the gmat online exam? I would like to see if I can get use to the whiteboard before spending 200 dollars + 30% off taxes in my country= 260 at least


I have not seen a whiteboard simulator from GMAC. I am expecting that there will be a whiteboard simulator within a week. It seems a pretty easy feature to enable for someone to test drive.... At least I would have done it if I were the GMAC :-)

P.S. I have found a Vue System Test here: https://home.pearsonvue.com/theopengroup/onvue
Click on Test My System
It does not give a whiteboard simulation but it does check your system and allows you to run a check of your ID

To answer your question however, no official whiteboard is available except a screenshot and spec sheet.
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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   14 Apr 2020, 23:18
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People are crying because they can’t use paper on the gmat exam. The main problem is that if you take the exam with papers, then you can pass those exercises to somebody else. That’s why we are not allowed to use paper. And it’s quite understandable.

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My post was misleading- I was attempting to express my frustration that they aren't allowing a whiteboard or similar. Completely understand the paper policy and agree with your sentiment.
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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   14 Apr 2020, 23:25
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People are crying because they can’t use paper on the gmat exam. The main problem is that if you take the exam with papers, then you can pass those exercises to somebody else. That’s why we are not allowed to use paper. And it’s quite understandable.

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This is exactly the reason for not being able to use scratch paper.... And I would have agreed with this summary. However GRE allows use of a reasonable whiteboard. Why not adapt the same method and process for the next two months?

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It’s very difficult to know what it is going on in the companies that make the exam, especially when the companies are so different. I would suggest people to take gre if they don’t like gmat at all because it’s not a democratic thing, and not taking the gmat demonstrates that we don’t agree with the company’s policy. (And say bye bye to gmat, just not to say something else)
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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   15 Apr 2020, 00:33
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Scratch pads aren’t allowed and online whiteboards are allowed. Does it make any sense to practice math on a screen with us trying to draw numbers and solve. What will we focus on? Drawing the numbers or answering the question ? Can all of us possibly request the company to think through this decision as for most of us , it’s too late to consider whether GMAT or GRE

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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   Updated on: 16 Apr 2020, 23:05
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Thank you for a nice summary and pointing out some missed conclusions and implications. I would really love for GMAC to allow choosing schools after the score is provided. However, I’m not sure that one can do that for free. The policy is not very clear in my reading and it seems, it rather suggests that you can order paid additional score reports.
bb, you are right about that third point. I think it was just wishful thinking on my part.

EDIT: Additional score reports will be free for the Online GMAT (confirmed in the GMAC webinar).

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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   15 Apr 2020, 04:40
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My biggest concern is the one test limit for the at home. Some of us have no idea when test centers will reopen, what if we burn our only shot with a 550 and test centers are closed for the next 3-4 months? In this case, I couldn’t use the GMAT for ‘20 R3 apps, potentially even putting my ‘21 R1 process in jeopardy.

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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   15 Apr 2020, 05:05
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Was anyone able to register for the exam? For the scratchpad part, I feel they should atleast allow touch screen laptops. Otherwise it will be incredibly difficult to solve all the math questions in the give time. Also there is no optional break between Quant and Verbal. I don't know why they did that, Can't think of any reason for doing that. If anyone can comment on these it would be really helpful. Thanks in advance.
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Was anyone able to register for the exam? For the scratchpad part, I feel they should atleast allow touch screen laptops. Otherwise it will be incredibly difficult to solve all the math questions in the give time. Also there is no optional break between Quant and Verbal. I don't know why they did that, Can't think of any reason for doing that. If anyone can comment on these it would be really helpful. Thanks in advance.


I think if they allow touch screen, it will disadvantage some test takers, particularly me, because mine is not touchscreen. In general, to make it fair, they must allow to take notes on erasable board. As per no break regulation, i also think it is a fresh hell, cause i have no idea how to manage 2h of intense pressure with no break. they could have allowed us at least 1-2 min break, so we could run to bathroom at least. But maybe not, because we could remember qs and have them written down during break -_-
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Seems like we can send the scores even after the time during registration
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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   15 Apr 2020, 11:31
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I am going to be taking the test on the first day available, 20 April. However, I am really concerned about the fact that we will not be able to take notes on paper/whiteboard: I am really scared about the amount of time we will lose writing on the "online whiteboard" provided, instead of using pen and paper. What do you think? I guess I will have to improve my pace in the Quant section.
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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   15 Apr 2020, 11:34
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I am going to be taking the test on the first day available, 20 April. However, I am really concerned about the fact that we will not be able to take notes on paper/whiteboard: I am really scared about the amount of time we will lose writing on the "online whiteboard" provided, instead of using pen and paper. What do you think? I guess I will have to improve my pace in the Quant section.


It is tough.... will be awkward and I think the best thing to do is do a few hours of practice of doing shorthand with an online whiteboard (just google for one - quite a few available) and figure out how to manage questions and what you want to write down.
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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   15 Apr 2020, 13:49
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The only rational explanation I can think of for this behaviour from GMAC’s side is: They believe the online test provides the unfair advantage of one’s home-turf, and are thus tightening up the screws on every other aspect of the test so as to make it miserable and impossible.

I have some questions I hope some of you will Be able to clarify:
1) What happens if one loses internet connection mid way through?
2) Is GMAC going to release an official “trial” version of this whiteboard?
3) How is one to answer geometry questions without reproducing the image? and more importantly, how is one supposed to adapt to this new tool and figure out not just how to write but also how to draw on it?
4) Why do the scores come after 1 week? Why am I not allowed the chance to cancel them after viewing?
5) Not a question, just wanted to say that 200$ for this is really a joke

I was really looking forward to this from GMAC’s end but it looks like some of us have to proceed with past scores.

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Most of these qs have been answered in previous posts. A link to the online scratchpad is also provided. Please go through earlier posts to find your answers.


Is there an official scratchpad? Or just a sample one? I am looking for the official one...
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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   15 Apr 2020, 14:14
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Here is my summary of the current situation. Let me know if I missed anything :)


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I would say the worst thing is the online whiteboard. Everything else is managable

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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   15 Apr 2020, 14:39
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ari.banerjee wrote:
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The only rational explanation I can think of for this behaviour from GMAC’s side is: They believe the online test provides the unfair advantage of one’s home-turf, and are thus tightening up the screws on every other aspect of the test so as to make it miserable and impossible.

I have some questions I hope some of you will Be able to clarify:
1) What happens if one loses internet connection mid way through?
2) Is GMAC going to release an official “trial” version of this whiteboard?
3) How is one to answer geometry questions without reproducing the image? and more importantly, how is one supposed to adapt to this new tool and figure out not just how to write but also how to draw on it?
4) Why do the scores come after 1 week? Why am I not allowed the chance to cancel them after viewing?
5) Not a question, just wanted to say that 200$ for this is really a joke

I was really looking forward to this from GMAC’s end but it looks like some of us have to proceed with past scores.

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Most of these qs have been answered in previous posts. A link to the online scratchpad is also provided. Please go through earlier posts to find your answers.


Is there an official scratchpad? Or just a sample one? I am looking for the official one...


From their website it seems the online whiteboard is embedded in the online exam software, where there's an item to click and it will pop up.
So not sure if they will provide it separately for practice purposes.
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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   15 Apr 2020, 14:51
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It would be the right thing to do to provide a practice onscreen white board.... I am exploring options to create one for GMAT Club where people could try it out and use it for practice. I am told it will take a week..... and about $1,000 - 2,000
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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   15 Apr 2020, 15:10
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In my limited view, GMAC may allow a scratchpad after the Friday's webinar due to low booking rates and a high number of complaints. I assume many people won't be willing to take the exam because not having a scratchpad is a significant disadvantage. Furthermore, with GRE being more flexible, my guess is that under high pressure GMAC may ease off. The only way to do that is hit them where it hurts - their wallet.


I also have the same feeling.
I was just checking their Twitter and IG account and there are plenty of comments criticizing their whiteboard policy. So they may reconsider it.
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Re: GMAT Online - What We Know [Master Topic] [#permalink] New post   15 Apr 2020, 15:15
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There is nothing in the rules prohibiting you from having an empty bucket underneath your computer desk.... I checked :lol:


I can’t imagine the craziness proctors must have experienced during these tests... Think about all the mental and emotional damage they experience.


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Here is my summary of the current situation. Let me know if I missed anything :)


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Maybe include potential damages to the kidney and liver due to strain on the bladder or excessive dehydration in lieu of fear of involuntary secretion.... :lol: :lol:

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There is nothing in the rules prohibiting you from having an empty bucket underneath your computer desk.... I checked :lol:


I can’t imagine the craziness proctors must have experienced during these tests... Think about all the mental and emotional damage they experience.


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Here is my summary of the current situation. Let me know if I missed anything :)


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Maybe include potential damages to the kidney and liver due to strain on the bladder or excessive dehydration in lieu of fear of involuntary secretion.... :lol: :lol:

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In case you didn’t know this haha proctors change during your exam. I had about 3 rotations that I remember...

I’d say that they are fine, it’s the students that suffer really.
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