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still not convinced why answer A is incorrect. " need more solid explanations than "having doesn't sound right"
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still not convinced why answer A is incorrect. " need more solid explanations than "having doesn't sound right"


"Having" + participle is used to depict a completed event, e.g.,
Having finished my lunch, I left for the station...... implies that AFTER I fnished my lunch, I left for the station.


The structure of option A is as follows:
Having been named for a nymph, the asteroid was discovered.
The above implies that the AFTER the asteroid was named, it was discovered. This is absurd because naming cannot happen before an asteroid is discovered.
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Having been named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, the asteroid named Ida, in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1884.

A. Having been named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, the asteroid named Ida, in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1884.

B. Discovered in 1884, the asteroid lda, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.

C. In the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, the asteroid lda, discovered in 1884 and named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter.

D. The asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.

E. Ida, an asteroid discovered in 1884 and which was named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.



Can someone please explain what is wrong with "and discovered in 1884" in option D?
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thanhmaitran wrote:
Having been named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, the asteroid named Ida, in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1884.

A. Having been named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, the asteroid named Ida, in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1884.

B. Discovered in 1884, the asteroid lda, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.

C. In the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, the asteroid lda, discovered in 1884 and named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter.

D. The asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.

E. Ida, an asteroid discovered in 1884 and which was named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.



Can someone please explain what is wrong with "and discovered in 1884" in option D?


The asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter
two issues:
1. to orbit
2. The asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph (who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884), is in.... this is also a different meaning coming up because of the placement of "and discovered in 1884".

Whenever you see choices keeping phrases here and there, then it means you should watch out for misplaced modifier issue. Such issues creates meaning issues.
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thanhmaitran wrote:
Having been named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, the asteroid named Ida, in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1884.

A. Having been named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, the asteroid named Ida, in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1884.

B. Discovered in 1884, the asteroid lda, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.

C. In the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, the asteroid lda, discovered in 1884 and named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter.

D. The asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.

E. Ida, an asteroid discovered in 1884 and which was named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.



Can someone please explain what is wrong with "and discovered in 1884" in option D?


The asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter
two issues:
1. to orbit
2. The asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph (who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884), is in.... this is also a different meaning coming up because of the placement of "and discovered in 1884".

Whenever you see choices keeping phrases here and there, then it means you should watch out for misplaced modifier issue. Such issues creates meaning issues.



Hi HKD1710,

I did no t understand your explanation in point 2. Could you please elaborate how is the meaning of the sentence changing?
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(D) The asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.


GMATNinja, mikemcgarry, Hey, Can you please help me with the errors in D. One error which i have understood is that the usage of "to orbit" is incorrect.

Can you please comment on the parallelism in the noun modifier "named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884"

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(D) The asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.


GMATNinja, mikemcgarry, Hey, Can you please help me with the errors in D. One error which i have understood is that the usage of "to orbit" is incorrect.

Can you please comment on the parallelism in the noun modifier "named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884"

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The use of "to orbit" is the most glaring issue in (D). If I write, "Tim is in class to learn," I'm communicating that Tim has a conscious intent and motivation for being in class -- in other words, he wants to learn. Similarly, in "The asteroid Ida is in the middle of the belt of asteroids...to orbit the sun," it sounds as the asteroid is a conscious entity that's placed itself in the middle of this belt because it wishes to orbit the sun. Outside of science fiction or maybe a Michael Bay movie, a conscious asteroid is not logical.

As for "and discovered" I wouldn't say that it's wrong so much as it is confusing. In "named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884," the "and" is a parallel marker. At first glance, it appears as though "discovered" is parallel to the verb "cared," and we're getting ready to figure out what this nymph discovered -- except that the nymph didn't discover anything. In reality, it only makes sense for "discovered" to be parallel to the modifier "named," but it's very difficult to see this without rereading the sentence a few times. The OA doesn't create the same confusion, and that's a big part of why (B) is correct.

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Hello Everyone!

Let's tackle this question, one issue at a time, and figure out the correct choice! First, let's take a quick look at the original question, and highlight any obvious differences between the options in orange:

Having been named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, the asteroid named Ida, in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1884.

(A) Having been named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, the asteroid named Ida, in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1884.
(B) Discovered in 1884, the asteroid lda, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.
(C) In the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, the asteroid lda, discovered in 1884 and named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter.
(D) The asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.
(E) Ida, an asteroid discovered in 1884 and which was named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.

Whenever you see the entire sentence underlined, you have to think about both the minor differences between the options and the overall grammar issue the entire sentence deals with:

1. that orbit / to orbit (idioms)
2. having been named / named / which was named (verb tense)

...and our overall grammar concept?

3. Modifiers (placement and usage)


To begin, let's start with #1 on our list: that orbit vs. to orbit. This is an easy one that will knock 2-3 options out of contention quickly. It is idiomatically correct to say that "objects that orbit" and not "objects to orbit." So, let's see which options do this correctly:

(A) Having been named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, the asteroid named Ida, in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1884.
(B) Discovered in 1884, the asteroid lda, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.
(C) In the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, the asteroid lda, discovered in 1884 and named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter.
(D) The asteroid Ida, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter and discovered in 1884, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.
(E) Ida, an asteroid discovered in 1884 and which was named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids to orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.

We can eliminate options D & E because they don't use the right idiom "that orbit." How easy was that? Sometimes, starting with the simplest differences can rule out several wrong options without much efford!

Now that we're down to 3 options, let's focus on #2: verb tense. We know that these events happened in a particular order:

1. An asteroid was discovered in 1884.
2. The asteroid was named Ida after a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter.
3. Ida is located in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the sun between Mars and Jupiter.


Let's make sure that the verb tenses throughout each sentence tell the events in the right order, and don't create any confusion:

(A) Having been named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, the asteroid named Ida, in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, was discovered in 1884.

This is INCORRECT because it puts the events in the wrong order! By using the past perfect "having been named," this suggests that the asteroid was named Ida BEFORE it was discovered?? That doesn't make sense, does it? Let's eliminate this one.

(B) Discovered in 1884, the asteroid lda, named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter, is in the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter.

This is CORRECT! The past tense "discovered" clearly shows that the asteroid was discovered in the past. The word "named" here is being used as a modifier, so it's fine how it is. We also like the use of the present tense "is" to show that Ida is still currently located in the same place, which makes sense!

(C) In the middle of the belt of asteroids that orbit the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, the asteroid lda, discovered in 1884 and named for a mythological nymph who cared for the infant Jupiter.

This is INCORRECT because it's a sentence fragment! We have two modifiers (highlighted in red), and a subject - but it's missing a verb altogether!

There you go - option B is the correct choice! It uses the right idiom "that orbit" and it's a complete sentence with the right verb tenses!


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I hate to complain, but with exception to the expert's replies in here most users are eliminating (A) for no solid grounds.

I got this correct, but i found it more difficult than the difficulty implied by the timer statistic here.

To be clear, (A) is incorrect because "Having been named..." is a past perfect verb that implies the asteroid was named before it's discovery in 1884.
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