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# High school students who feel that they are not succeeding

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1.High school students who feel that they are not succeeding in school often drop out before graduating and go to work. Last year, however, the cityâ€™s high school dropout rate was significantly lower than the previous yearâ€™s rate. This is encouraging evidence that the program instituted two years ago to improve the morale of high school students has begun to take effect to reduce dropouts.

Which one of the following, if true about the last year, most seriously weakens the argument?

(A) There was a recession that caused a high level or unemployment in the city.
(B) The morale of students who dropped out of high school had been low even before they reached high school.
(C) As in the preceding year, more high school students remained in school than dropped out.
(D) High schools in the city established placement offices to assist their graduates in obtaining employment.
(E) The antidropout program was primarily aimed at improving studentsâ€™ morale in those high schools with the highest dropout rates.
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16 Mar 2007, 19:34
A. Because students cannot easily find job.

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17 Mar 2007, 03:52
A casts doubt on the effectiveness of the program by providing an alternative reason for reduction in drop out rates. High unemployment might result in students staying back at school as they cannot find jobs outside.
Hence A

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15 Mar 2012, 23:42
between A and D
CHOSE A
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25 Aug 2012, 00:28
between A and D
CHOSE A
i selected d, guys. Why not D?
How is it less beleivable than A?
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05 Jun 2013, 01:19
What's wrong with D? can someone please Explain. Its between A and D...
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05 Jun 2013, 03:30
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What's wrong with D? can someone please Explain. Its between A and D...

'D' mentions high school grauates whereas the question clearly states dropouts, hence 'D' is incorrect. It is simply there to confuse.

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05 Jun 2013, 07:41
But doesn't give an alternative reason to why they aren't dropping out of school ... because they are assured a job?
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05 Jun 2013, 07:56
I have a lot of sympathy with D.

If I was more assured of a job at the end of a programme I'd be more likely to stick at it.

Wonder if someone from Manhattan GMAT could comment?
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05 Jun 2013, 08:13
James,
Here is a scenario:
Suppose there is a high-school X. X has established a placement office to assist students in obtaining a job. Does that means that students have full trust in the placement office?I don't think so.
The answer may be yes or no. Since there is a slight lack of certainty, I am against D.
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05 Jun 2013, 08:17
Maybe, and the question does say 'most weakens' so on the test I'd probably under duress go for A.

That said I think that D is solid.
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05 Jun 2013, 08:22
Can you please let me know what is your line of reasoning behind D?
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05 Jun 2013, 08:38
Between A & D

I would go for A as it weakens the conclusion

i.e( This is encouraging evidence that the program instituted two years ago to improve the morale of high school students has begun to take effect to reduce dropouts. )

D actually strengthens the argument by providing evidence that some program has encouraged students to stay.

This is my reasoning, I'm not sure of the answer,

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09 Jun 2013, 02:23
Manhnip wrote:
Between A & D

I would go for A as it weakens the conclusion

i.e( This is encouraging evidence that the program instituted two years ago to improve the morale of high school students has begun to take effect to reduce dropouts. )

D actually strengthens the argument by providing evidence that some program has encouraged students to stay.

This is my reasoning, I'm not sure of the answer,

I understand that D says that because of placements provided the college dropouts are less but the argument says college dropouts are less because of some morale boost program hence D is correct option. Option A states that dropout is less because there is lot of unemployment, if it is true then whatever program you conduct or donot conduct students will not dropout and Option A is not negating the argument but option D is providing an alternate cause.

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27 Jun 2013, 05:16
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But doesn't give an alternative reason to why they aren't dropping out of school ... because they are assured a job?

D doesn't give an alternate reason...if you think about it....D says placement office for graduates, so those who choose to graduate are getting jobs, however, those whose morale is low won't think a placement office would be helpful for them and would still drop out, since they can drop out and still get jobs, as mentioned in the premise, hence not reaching the state where they will be benefited by the placement office. So, a morale improvement program would actually be the better cause if you consider D, and hence the argument is not weakened.

However, if there are no jobs left in the market due to recession, people would think twice before dropping out, hence A gives a proper alternate cause.

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27 Jun 2013, 10:40
+1 A

D is interesting, but I think that we would have to suposse that those students prefer to wait until their graduation to get those graduate jobs rather than to work inmediately. But, we are not allowed to make that kind of assumption.

Hence, A.

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Maybe, and the question does say 'most weakens' so on the test I'd probably under duress go for A.

That said I think that D is solid.

I think this argument is a typical 'Cause and Effect' argument.
Effect - Less no. of dropouts this year compared to previous year. Cause (as per argument) - Morale program 2 years before.
But wait, can't there be some other cause? Was the program the only cause? D - states the alternate cause. If there are placement officers in the schools, then student might want to continue the school (even though not doing well in studies), and eventually get a job by some assistance from the officers. Right.
Additionally, A says something out of scope of the argument. Unemployment rate? so it affects the dropout rate inside the school. Might be. But, just not as good as D.

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Between A and D, which one is the correct answer ?
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Between A and D, which one is the correct answer ?

Premise: a new program was implemented two years ago. (X)
Conclusion: drop out rates reduced. (Y)
The argument is X caused Y.

Option A weakens the argument by stating that something else, recession (Z) caused Y, thereby weakening the argument X caused Y.

Option D may present a reason that the drop out rate is reduced , but it attacks the conclusion (Y) in isolation and has no bearing with the premise (X) - it does not attack the link between the premise and conclusion (i.e does not attack the argument X caused Y) and thus is not the right answer.

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(A) There was a recession that caused a high level or unemployment in the city.
The answer choice provides an alternate reason for the chnage and thus weakens the argument by stating that the program was not the reason for the low dropout rates.

(B) The morale of students who dropped out of high school had been low even before they reached high school.
the answer choice tries to undermine the effects of the program but as the argument specifies that students drop out of high school and the program aims to boost the moral of the highschool students the choice is addressing the wrong segment of studnets thus out of scope.

(C) As in the preceding year, more high school students remained in school than dropped out.
this does not mean that the students remained in the high school because of the program

(D) High schools in the city established placement offices to assist their graduates in obtaining employment.
The point states that the high school established placement offices but fails to mention the quality of jobs provided and weather the jobs provided by the palcement offices were the same jobs as the droppouts were doing already or were better paid and therfore this anser choice may not be correct completely and therfore does not form the code for the weakiening of the argument.

(E) The antidropout program was primarily aimed at improving studentsâ€™ morale in those high schools with the highest dropout rates.
the answer choice does not weakens the argument but only provide more stats.

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