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# His studies of ice-polished rocks in his Alpine home land,

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His studies of ice-polished rocks in his Alpine home land, far outside the range of present-day glaciers, led Louis Agassiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas.

(A) in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas
(B) in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas
(C) when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
(D) when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
(E) when great ice sheets existed in areas now that are temperate

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It's either B or E. Is it due to idioms( in which vs. when) or since the age is in the past; it is unlikely that the great ice sheets existed in areas now. I know diction is important on GMAT. In ( now) temperate areas , does now function as an adjective?

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27 Jun 2007, 15:09
narrowed down between B & E.

B. His studies led Louis to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas.

E. His studies led Louis to propose the concept of an age when great ice sheets existed in areas that are now temperate.

at this point, I will go with B simply because 'in what are now temperate areas' sounds better.
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27 Jun 2007, 15:23
I also came down to B & E, but chose E because it sounded better. But, it's not the correct answer, so i suppose it didn't sound right

can somebody explain to me that what's wrong with E?
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27 Jun 2007, 17:50
C, D, E uses 'when'. However, the correct usage should be 'in which' because:

Louis proposes the concept of an ice age in which ...

'of an ice age' is just a modifier for 'the concept'. Concepts do not go with 'when'

Between A and B, B is the better choice.

Answer A contains ' now' and 'currently'. We only need one.
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28 Jun 2007, 05:38
jimmyjamesdonkey wrote:
"to propose" is simple present? What about "lead"? isn't that past tense?

"lead" is simple present too. "Led" would be simple past
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28 Jun 2007, 07:02
leeye84 wrote:
C, D, E uses 'when'. However, the correct usage should be 'in which' because:

Louis proposes the concept of an ice age in which ...

'of an ice age' is just a modifier for 'the concept'. Concepts do not go with 'when'

Between A and B, B is the better choice.

Answer A contains ' now' and 'currently'. We only need one.

hmm, I thought 'in which' referred to the ice age and not the concept, how can great ice sheets exist in a concept??
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15 Jul 2007, 08:43
His studies of ice-polished rocks in his Alpine homeland, far outside the range of present-day glaciers, led Louis Agassiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas.
(A) in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas
(B) in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas
(C) when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
(D) when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
(E) when great ice sheets existed in areas now that are temperate

I am confused between B and D do we use “in which” to denote a time period or “when”?
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15 Jul 2007, 12:55
pawan82 wrote:
His studies of ice-polished rocks in his Alpine homeland, far outside the range of present-day glaciers, led Louis Agassiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas.

(A) in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas
(B) in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas
(C) when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
(D) when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
(E) when great ice sheets existed in areas now that are temperate

I am confused between B and D do we use “in which” to denote a time period or “when”?

should be B cuz "in which" is better than when.

when is used to indicate a specific point o time where as "in which' is used for a period of time.
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15 Jul 2007, 14:22
age is a period, so we need 'in which'. 'when' is used if a specifice year/era was used.
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22 Jul 2007, 04:43
332.His studies of ice-polished rocks in his Alpine homeland, far outside the range of present-day glaciers, led Louis Agassiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas.
(A) in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas
(B) in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas
(C) when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
(D) when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
(E) when great ice sheets existed in areas now that are temperate
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01 Aug 2007, 08:46
Paul wrote:
Can someone tell me the difference between "in which" and "when" in this context. I chose B by finding flaws other than when/in which in the other sentences. By being able to eliminate CDE on the basis that they use "when" would be much more simple.

I think "areas now that are temperate" is awkward.

"When" = "In Which"? This is new to me. Thanks!
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01 Aug 2007, 10:09
jimmyjamesdonkey wrote:

OA is B. Question is -- Why not use Past Perfect tense here? We have to events going on in the past at different times. One event is in 1837 when he made his proposal, the other event is in the way past talking about the ice age.

I hate sentence correction questions that require you to think.

i proposed a theory of [the period when the earth was covered by glaciers.]
i proposed a theory of [the period when the earth had been covered by glaciers.]

The second sentence talks about a period after the glacier period.
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14 Dec 2007, 21:28
1) His studies of ice-polished rocks in his Alpine homeland, far outside the range of present-day glaciers, led Louis Agassiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas.

A) in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas
B) in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas
C) when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
D) when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
E) when great ice sheets existed in areas now that are temperate

can someone plz explain why the simple past is used instead of the past perfect. i thought if there are two things happening at different times in the past, we should use the past perfect
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14 Dec 2007, 21:48
jimjohn wrote:
1) His studies of ice-polished rocks in his Alpine homeland, far outside the range of present-day glaciers, led Louis Agassiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas.
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A) in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas
B) in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas
C) when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
D) when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
E) when great ice sheets existed in areas now that are temperate

can someone plz explain why the simple past is used instead of the past perfect. i thought if there are two things happening at different times in the past, we should use the past perfect

I think the tense is not being tested here.
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we have 2/3 split between "in which" and "when".
Usage of "when" is wrong here because the subject which is being modified is "concept of age" and not "age" .
And "when" should modify time not concept .
So in which is correct.

Between A and B , "now currently" is clearly redundant.
So B.
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His Studies of ice-polished rocks in his alpine homeland, far outside the range of present day glaciers, led LOuis Agasiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age which great ice sheets had existed in now currently tempereate areas

a. same
b.in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas.
c. when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
d. when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
e. when great ice sheers existed in areas now that are temperate

The correct answer is B. I [b]chose A. However, looking back I can see that my answer was redundant. BUt as far as the verb tense I am very confused still. I know that in past perfect - if the does not exist anymore and interrupted by something else in past is indeed past perfect. THis requires HAD. HOw did I mess up on the verb tense?

I thought I knew difference between past perfect and present perfect untill now. what happened.?
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30 Jan 2008, 20:46
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His Studies of ice-polished rocks in his alpine homeland, far outside the range of present day glaciers, led LOuis Agasiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age which great ice sheets had existed in now currently tempereate areas

a. same
b.in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas.
c. when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
d. when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
e. when great ice sheers existed in areas now that are temperate

The correct answer is B. I [b]chose A. However, looking back I can see that my answer was redundant. BUt as far as the verb tense I am very confused still. I know that in past perfect - if the does not exist anymore and interrupted by something else in past is indeed past perfect. THis requires HAD. HOw did I mess up on the verb tense?

I thought I knew difference between past perfect and present perfect untill now. what happened.?

FYI: youd get more people responding to this if you didnt put the OA in the question. If you do at least make it white so we cannot see it. It ruins the problem. Also please underline the part in question.

Thanks.

I dont see any real difference between when and in which here so ima leave that to someone else who can better answer.

However,

C: where there were... this changes the meaning
E: awkward...

B is much better.
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28 Apr 2008, 01:40
332.His studies of ice-polished rocks in his Alpine homeland, far outside the range of present-day glaciers, led Louis Agassiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas.
(A) in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas
(B) in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas
(C) when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
(D) when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
(E) when great ice sheets existed in areas now that are temperate
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28 Apr 2008, 05:05
Age has to be qualified with the usage of when and not 'in which'.
thus eliminat A,B.

usage of past perfect is uncalled for. eliminate D

thsus between C, E.
E sounds better and simple and hence the answer..
Whats the OA ?

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28 Apr 2008, 17:27
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332.His studies of ice-polished rocks in his Alpine homeland, far outside the range of present-day glaciers, led Louis Agassiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas.
(A) in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently temperate areas
(B) in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas
(C) when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
(D) when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
(E) when great ice sheets existed in areas now that are temperate
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28 Apr 2008, 20:01
Thanks all of you!

OA is B
Neochronic wrote:
Age has to be qualified with the usage of when and not 'in which'.
thus eliminat A,B.

You have the same reasoning error as mine, the error that lead me to D.

bkk145 wrote:
in A, "now currently" is redundant.

Bkk145, you must pay a careful reading. This finding is helpful for me. Thanks and a kudo for you

bkk145 wrote:
I don't see the point of using "had" here, particularly with present tense

I tried to persude me that the proposal action happened before 1837, so i choose D, wrong!

Thanks agains
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22 Jun 2008, 15:38
OG 59) His Studies of ice-polished rocks in his alpine homeland, far outside the range of present day glaciers, led LOuis Agasiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in now currently tempereate areas

a. same
b.in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas.
c. when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
d. when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
e. when great ice sheers existed in areas now that are temperate
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