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2. However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state

(A) However much United States voters may agree that
(B) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
(C) Although United States voters agree
(D) Even though United States voters may agree
(E) There is agreement among United States voters that

B,C,E are incorrect: because these statment certian about voters agreement. while orignal sentence uncertain (may)

A,D --- I will pick D (sounds better).

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14 Nov 2007, 13:54
x2suresh wrote:
2. However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state

(A) However much United States voters may agree that
(B) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
(C) Although United States voters agree
(D) Even though United States voters may agree
(E) There is agreement among United States voters that

B,C,E are incorrect: because these statment certian about voters agreement. while orignal sentence uncertain (may)

A,D --- I will pick D (sounds better).

i also found this question pretty difficult but i am convinced now that only A makes sense as we need "That" to connect two clauses. "That" is missing in other choices.

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14 Nov 2007, 13:59
"However much United States voters may agree" is a dependent clause and "there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means" is an independent clause; therefore you need a subordinating conjunction to join these two, and that serves the purpose. Hope this helps. E is passive.

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14 Nov 2007, 13:59
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i also found this question pretty difficult but i am convinced now that only A makes sense as we need "That" to connect two clauses. "That" is missing in other choices.

We definitely need "that" after agree, but A just sounds terrible. "However much" sounds really bad for written English.

What is the source of this SC? I have found that some Kaplan SCs can be pretty nonsensical as compared to average GMAT questions.

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What is the source of this SC? I have found that some Kaplan SCs can be pretty nonsensical as compared to average GMAT questions.

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OA -- A

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14 Nov 2007, 17:55
gluon wrote:
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i also found this question pretty difficult but i am convinced now that only A makes sense as we need "That" to connect two clauses. "That" is missing in other choices.

We definitely need "that" after agree, but A just sounds terrible. "However much" sounds really bad for written English.

What is the source of this SC? I have found that some Kaplan SCs can be pretty nonsensical as compared to average GMAT questions.

Definitely A. "That" is needed in the sentence. And I have seen cases where 'howmuchever' is used though it sounds awkward at first pass.

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29 Jun 2008, 00:04
However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyong its means , it is difficult to find broad support for a movement towar a minimal state.

OA is (A)

However, i don't understand why we can use "However" here. Does it mean nevertheless?

Thank you.

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29 Jun 2008, 00:42
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However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyong its means , it is difficult to find broad support for a movement towar a minimal state.

OA is (A)

However, i don't understand why we can use "However" here. Does it mean nevertheless?

Thank you.

"however" used at the beginning of a sentence, without a comma, means “in whatever manner” or “to whatever extent.”

You shouldn't use However - whenever it means 'nevertheless' - at the beginning of any sentence.

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29 Jun 2008, 04:13
Thanks Alpha,

If I cannot use However - whenever it means 'nevertheless' - at the beginning of any sentence.

Why it ok to write:
I like reading. However, I am blind.
??

alpha_plus_gamma wrote:
judokan wrote:
[u]

"however" used at the beginning of a sentence, without a comma, means “in whatever manner” or “to whatever extent.”

You shouldn't use However - whenever it means 'nevertheless' - at the beginning of any sentence.

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29 Jun 2008, 04:19
“in whatever manner” or “to whatever extent.”

I don't quite understand the exact meaning of these. Sorry, I am not a native English speaker.

Is there any other word carry the same meaning?

Can I use even though in this question?

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06 Jul 2008, 03:38
hi alpha_plus_gamma,

explanation for however so far clear - could you please also explain when to use

despite vs. even though vs. although vs. in spite of

thanks a lot

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hi alpha_plus_gamma,

explanation for however so far clear - could you please also explain when to use

despite vs. even though vs. although vs. in spite of

thanks a lot

Let me try:
BUT is used to express contrast that belies normal expectation. “I took the GMAT but did not apply to
Business schools’ is an example of such contrast

ALTHOUGH is used to express POSITIVE CONTRAST given a NEGATIVE situation. “Although I
did not score well on the GMAT, I was accepted at Harvard.”

DESPITE is used to express NEGATIVE CONTRAST given a positive or beneficial situation.
“Despite the fact that he is rich, he is miserable.”

HOWEVER is used to express contrast and is used at the head of a new sentence. “I was accepted at
Harvard; however, I did not accept the offer.”

NEVERTHELESS is used as a CONJUNCTIVE ADVERB to express a contrast. “He was accepted
at Harvard but he was NEVERTHELESS unexcited.”

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07 Jul 2008, 13:05
judokan wrote:
However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyong its means , it is difficult to find broad support for a movement towar a minimal state.

OA is (A)

However, i don't understand why we can use "However" here. Does it mean nevertheless?

Thank you.

"However" and " nevertheless" are contrast words.
However - used at the beginning of teh sentence
Nevertheless - can within the sentence

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goalsnr wrote:
reiswaffel wrote:
hi alpha_plus_gamma,

explanation for however so far clear - could you please also explain when to use

despite vs. even though vs. although vs. in spite of

thanks a lot

Let me try:
BUT is used to express contrast that belies normal expectation. “I took the GMAT but did not apply to
Business schools’ is an example of such contrast

ALTHOUGH is used to express POSITIVE CONTRAST given a NEGATIVE situation. “Although I
did not score well on the GMAT, I was accepted at Harvard.”

DESPITE is used to express NEGATIVE CONTRAST given a positive or beneficial situation.
“Despite the fact that he is rich, he is miserable.”

HOWEVER is used to express contrast and is used at the head of a new sentence. “I was accepted at
Harvard; however, I did not accept the offer.”

NEVERTHELESS is used as a CONJUNCTIVE ADVERB to express a contrast. “He was accepted
at Harvard but he was NEVERTHELESS unexcited.”

Neat, I didn't know... ....tooomba chenna!!

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However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.
A. However much United States voters may agree that
B. Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
C. Although United States voters agree
D. Even though United States voters may agree
E. There is agreement among United States voters that

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08 Jun 2009, 10:04
'D' should be the right answer.

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08 Jun 2009, 10:37
are you sure the OA is A? 'However much United States voters' sounds wrong to me.

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08 Jun 2009, 10:40
A

this is in OG 11. "However much" sounds strange but its correct

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yes, I got A as my answer. It makes perfect sense. You need "that" to connect the 2 clauses. So that eliminates all the answer choices except for A and E. The second half of the sentence starts with "it" right after a comma with no conjunction to connect the 2 clauses. You will need subordinate conjunction in the first sentence, turning the first sentence into a dependant clause. There is a rule of thumb:

1) dependant clause + , + independant clause ---> notice a comma between the clauses
2) independant clause + dependant clause ----> notice that there's no comma between the 2 clauses.

Here are some examples:

1) I like her ----> Indendent clause because the thought in this sentence is complete
2) because she is nice -----> dependent clause because not only is it not complete, but it also makes you want to anticipate what's next.

so:

a) I like her because she is nice. ----> independent clause + dependent clause
b) Because she is nice, I like her -----> dependent clause + , + independent clause

in option A, the "howevermuch" turns that first sentence into a dependent clause.

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Can someone comment on the usage of "Even though" and "Although" in the beginning of the sentence? Are both considered to be correct on GMAT?

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