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It actually gets a little tricky if you use 'however' as a subordinate conjunction. If you join to independent clauses - as you did - then you must use the semi-colon with however. You must also put a comma in front of however, the way you would when however is used as a subordinate conjunction the beginning of the sentence.

He likes to go to market; however, he will not go this week.

Another important thing: however, when used as a Sub. Conj. can also go near the beginning of the sentence.

The man with the dog, however, could not dine at the restaurant.

Notice that 'the man with the dog' is not a dependent clause. Therefore ', however,' is correct and you do not need to use a semi-colon. Besides the placement of 'however,' this sentence is no different from:

However, the man with the dog could not dine at the restaurant.

Where a writer put the 'however' depends on the rhythm of the sentence. However, it is important to note that some grammar sticklers (influenced by Strunk and Whites Elements of Style), believe it is incorrect to start a sentence with 'however', when however is used as a subordinate conjunction.

The GMAT, however, does not subscribe to this "orthodoxy." I just thought I'd point this out because a google search on 'however' can yield conflicting info.

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However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.
(A) However much United States voters may agree that
(B) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
(C) Although United States voters agree
(D) Even though United States voters may agree
(E) There is agreement among United States voters that

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I see a problem with the phrase "however much", if it were "No matter how much...." it would have made sense. So the phrase in question is incorrect.

"A" i snot the right answer
"B" is not the right answer because if you combine this phrase witht he remaining phrase in the question, you can see that we are missing a "that" connector between them
"C" and "D" are equally giving you the suspicion.
"E" is kind of changing the sentence's intention.

"D" is using "even though",then the later part of the sentence should contradict something with the voters action rather than what they agree.

So "C" is the right answer!

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I think B is correct.

There is a phrase "despite myself", which means even though what i am or sth like that.

The sentence "Raju did it despite himself." means that Raju is a good natured guy and still done something wrong. Going by this example, i think B suits better.

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I see a problem with the phrase "however much", if it were "No matter how much...." it would have made sense. So the phrase in question is incorrect.

"A" i snot the right answer
"B" is not the right answer because if you combine this phrase witht he remaining phrase in the question, you can see that we are missing a "that" connector between them
"C" and "D" are equally giving you the suspicion.
"E" is kind of changing the sentence's intention.

"D" is using "even though",then the later part of the sentence should contradict something with the voters action rather than what they agree.

So "C" is the right answer!



OA is "B". Please dont write somthing for the sake of writing. If you are 100% sure than do it. (just a suggestion). As I am very new to this kind of grammer. and need to learn.

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OA is (A).B does not stand the test of parallelism.

However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.

I had initially doubt about the modifier "much" but I think its modifying the "agree" rather than "United States Voters".
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27. However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.
A) However much United States voters may agree that
B) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
C) Although United States voters agree
D) Even though United States voters may agree
E) There is agreement among United States voters that

OFFICIAL ANSWER: A
MY ANSWER: D

--> They have provide A as a correct answer but how can MUCH be connected to the VOTERS......? :?:
Voters use many as they are countable ....

AM I CORRECT ?....If I am wrong the Pls Explain........Pls somebody do reply .....
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Much connecting to voters is discussed in below thread

however-much-united-states-voters-may-agree-that-there-is-75895.html

I chose A by the idiom agree that

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However MUCH United States voters MAY AGREE means that there MIGHT BE MUCH agreement.

B, C and E all change the intended meaning by implying that there IS -- for CERTAIN -- agreement. Eliminate B, C and E.

In D, may agree THERE is waste...and THAT the government as a whole spends is not parallel. Eliminate D.
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The gist of this thread is to see whether one can appreciate the difference between may agree and (simply) agree.

However much means a large quantity; But it does not mean 100 percent. But, Agreement in B and E, agree in C, may agree in D, all mean 100%. However might mean even though or although but the addition of the ‘much’ changes the course of the intent.
May agree is something that is short of definite agreement. None of the choices other than A carries this speculative intent.
A is the correct choice.
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27. However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.
A) However much United States voters may agree that
B) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
C) Although United States voters agree
D) Even though United States voters may agree
E) There is agreement among United States voters that

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A – KEEP
B – fact what? That is missing. Eliminate
C – Agree what? That is missing. Eliminate
D – same as C
E – No contrast.. Sentence after comma seems to miss a conjunction then. Eliminate

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A is the answer

rest all change the meaning of intended sentence.
Subtle difference but enough to eliminate all except A.

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whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.

A. However much United States voters may agree that
B. Despite the agreement among United States voters tot he fact
C. Although United States voters agree
D. Even though United States voters may agree
E. There is agreement among United States voters that

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"Much" is not counting the United States voters. "Much" is referring to how much the voters want something. The meaning of "much" in this problem is the same as in the sentence "No matter how much Bob wants ice cream, he will not get any." That means that no matter how great Bob's desire for ice cream is, he will not get any.

"Many" would be correct if the sentence was something like "Many United States voters that there is waste in government, that the government as a
whole spends beyond its means, and that it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state." In this case the voters are counted. The sentence is trying to say that a lot of voters agree with something.

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that there is waste in government and that the government -- ||ism

between A and E -- A is better, E is wordy.

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that there is waste in government and that the government -- ||ism

between A and E -- A is better, E is wordy.



Just want to elaborate your answer a bit.

E is wrong because "may agree" in A is totally different from "an agreement" in E.

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So,why is E wrong? "agreement" is wrong?

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However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.
A) However much United States voters may agree that
B )Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
C )Although United States voters agree
D )Even though United States voters may agree
E) There is agreement among United States voters that



Here can you please explain use of "much"? Much is non countable and Voters is countable.
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However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.
A) However much United States voters may agree that
B )Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
C )Although United States voters agree
D )Even though United States voters may agree
E) There is agreement among United States voters that


OA: A

Here can you please explain use of "much"? Much is non countable and Voters is countable.


hi,

Yes, Much is non countable and Voters is countable.

But here the Much does not refer to voter. But it refers the agreement.

You can also find the full discussion on this question here

Hope it helps :).
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