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( I have picked up all these questions from allensoybean's post on Nov26 2007 ) .

I got all of these wrong in my first attempt, probably as I did not fully understood the concept of ellipsis... Can you help me .. Pls refrain from just mentioning the answers. Please support your answer with reasoning.

The man was always aware, sometimes proudly and sometimes resentfully, that he was a small-town Midwesterner who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him.

(A) who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him
(B) who had been thrust into a world that was dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(C) who had been thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and people more polished than he was
(D) thrust into a world dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(E) thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than he

It is as difficult to prevent crimes against property as those that are against a person.
(A) those that are against a
(B) those against a
(C) it is against a
(D) preventing those against a
(E) it is to prevent those against a

Inflation has made many Americans reevaluate their assumptions about the future; they still expect to live better than their parents have, but not so well as they once thought they could.
(A) they still expect to live better than their parents have
(B) they still expect to live better than their parents did
(C) they still expect to live better than their parents had
(D) still expecting to live better than their parents had
(E) still expecting to live better than did their parents

Baseball, the only major professional sport during the Great Depression, was as present as the weather, and as much discussed.
a) as present as the weather, and as much discussed
b) present like the weather was and it was also discussed as much
c) as present and was discussed as the weather was
d) so present as to be discussed like the weather
e) present and discussed as often as the weather was

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01 Jul 2008, 20:54
No answers as yet...

GMATCLUB need help...

Im sure there are a few of you here who can help...

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01 Jul 2008, 22:05
Thanks clubbzang... You have a few answers correct here .. Not all (1,3 are correct )

Could you please explain the principle.. for e.g.

1) why did u select option e in Q 1

2) why did u select option c in Q 3

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01 Jul 2008, 22:59
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I believe it's E, E, B and A

The man was always aware, sometimes proudly and sometimes resentfully, that he was a small-town Midwesterner who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him.

(A) who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him
(B) who had been thrust into a world that was dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(C) who had been thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and people more polished than he was
(D) thrust into a world dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(E) thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than he

In this question, you are comparing the qualities of two sets of people, so the usage is :

there were people who were more wealthier than he < was wealthier>. "was wealthier" can be hidden, if you like. Now, you look at other reasons for strikings some of the choices out. A is wrong because of the wrong comparison. B and C unnecessarily use "had been". In D "more wealthy" is a wrong usage. So, E is the right choice.

It is as difficult to prevent crimes against property as those that are against a person.
(A) those that are against a
(B) those against a
(C) it is against a
(D) preventing those against a
(E) it is to prevent those against a

parallel construction around "as"

so only C and E remain. only E compares "crimes" against "crimes".

Inflation has made many Americans reevaluate their assumptions about the future; they still expect to live better than their parents have, but not so well as they once thought they could.
(A) they still expect to live better than their parents have
(B) they still expect to live better than their parents did
(C) they still expect to live better than their parents had
(D) still expecting to live better than their parents had
(E) still expecting to live better than did their parents

only A,B and C remain because of proper usage. B compares simple present against simple past. Hence B is the right answer.

Baseball, the only major professional sport during the Great Depression, was as present as the weather, and as much discussed.
a) as present as the weather, and as much discussed
b) present like the weather was and it was also discussed as much
c) as present and was discussed as the weather was
d) so present as to be discussed like the weather
e) present and discussed as often as the weather was[/quote]

A is right; right comparison.

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here is my take on these: E, B, B, A

The man was always aware, sometimes proudly and sometimes resentfully, that he was a small-town Midwesterner who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him.

(A) who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him
(B) who had been thrust into a world that was dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(C) who had been thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and people more polished than he was
(D) thrust into a world dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
E) thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than he (was)

It is as difficult to prevent crimes against property as those that are against a person.
(A) those that are against a
(B) those against a (parallelism ..crimes against poverty ...as those against....)
(C) it is against a
(D) preventing those against a
(E) it is to prevent those against a

Inflation has made many Americans reevaluate their assumptions about the future; they still expect to live better than their parents have, but not so well as they once thought they could.
(A) they still expect to live better than their parents have
(B) they still expect to live better than their parents did
(C) they still expect to live better than their parents had
(D) still expecting to live better than their parents had
(E) still expecting to live better than did their parents

Baseball, the only major professional sport during the Great Depression, was as present as the weather, and as much discussed.
a) as present as the weather, and as much discussed
b) present like the weather was and it was also discussed as much
c) as present and was discussed as the weather was
d) so present as to be discussed like the weather
e) present and discussed as often as the weather was
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Re: SC Questions on Ellipsis.. Imp Principle.. Please explain .. [#permalink]

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bhatiagp wrote:
( I have picked up all these questions from allensoybean's post on Nov26 2007 ) .

I got all of these wrong in my first attempt, probably as I did not fully understood the concept of ellipsis... Can you help me .. Pls refrain from just mentioning the answers. Please support your answer with reasoning.

The man was always aware, sometimes proudly and sometimes resentfully, that he was a small-town Midwesterner who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him.

(A) who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him
(B) who had been thrust into a world that was dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(C) who had been thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and people more polished than he was
(D) thrust into a world dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(E) thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than he

Him is an object pronoun. since we are comparing with people, we need "he" . "he was" is fine too, but then its wordy compared to only "he"

IMO "thrust" doesn't introduce any error.

It is as difficult to prevent crimes against property as those that are against a person.
(A) those that are against a
(B) those against a
(C) it is against a
(D) preventing those against a
(E) it is to prevent those against a
for parallelism

Inflation has made many Americans reevaluate their assumptions about the future; they still expect to live better than their parents have, but not so well as they once thought they could.
(A) they still expect to live better than their parents have
(B) they still expect to live better than their parents did
(C) they still expect to live better than their parents had
(D) still expecting to live better than their parents had
(E) still expecting to live better than did their parents

Baseball, the only major professional sport during the Great Depression, was as present as the weather, and as much discussed.
a) as present as the weather, and as much discussed
b) present like the weather was and it was also discussed as much
c) as present and was discussed as the weather was
d) so present as to be discussed like the weather
e) present and discussed as often as the weather was

I think discussed baseball was disucssed as weather makes strange comparison.
So...as is generally used when first clause is negative.

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02 Jul 2008, 01:31
Thanks a lot. The OA is E E B A

In question 2) why is B better than C

Incase any of you could post some more questions on this topic for practice it would be great .

Havent come across many questions on ellipsis , though i understand GMAC tests this concept in many of its SC

+1 to all of you for ur help..

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02 Jul 2008, 11:03
bhatiagp wrote:
( I have picked up all these questions from allensoybean's post on Nov26 2007 ) .

I got all of these wrong in my first attempt, probably as I did not fully understood the concept of ellipsis... Can you help me .. Pls refrain from just mentioning the answers. Please support your answer with reasoning.

The man was always aware, sometimes proudly and sometimes resentfully, that he was a small-town Midwesterner who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him.

(A) who was thrust into a world that was dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than him
(B) who had been thrust into a world that was dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(C) who had been thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and people more polished than he was
(D) thrust into a world dominated by more wealthy, educated, and polished people than him
(E) thrust into a world dominated by wealthier, better-educated, and more polished people than he

It is as difficult to prevent crimes against property as those that are against a person.
(A) those that are against a
(B) those against a
(C) it is against a
(D) preventing those against a
(E) it is to prevent those against a

Inflation has made many Americans reevaluate their assumptions about the future; they still expect to live better than their parents have, but not so well as they once thought they could.
(A) they still expect to live better than their parents have
(B) they still expect to live better than their parents did
(C) they still expect to live better than their parents had
(D) still expecting to live better than their parents had
(E) still expecting to live better than did their parents

Baseball, the only major professional sport during the Great Depression, was as present as the weather, and as much discussed.
a) as present as the weather, and as much discussed
b) present like the weather was and it was also discussed as much
c) as present and was discussed as the weather was
d) so present as to be discussed like the weather
e) present and discussed as often as the weather was

Can you point to the ellipsis portion in this Sc:

It is as difficult to prevent crimes against property as those that are against a person.
(A) those that are against a
(B) those against a
(C) it is against a
(D) preventing those against a
(E) it is to prevent those against a

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03 Jul 2008, 01:20
goalsnr wrote:
bhatiagp wrote:
( I have picked up all these questions from allensoybean's post on Nov26 2007 ) .

Can you point to the ellipsis portion in this Sc:

It is as difficult to prevent crimes against property as those that are against a person.
(A) those that are against a
(B) those against a
(C) it is against a
(D) preventing those against a
(E) it is to prevent those against a

The ellipsis portion here is It is as difficult to prevent crimes against property as it is to prevent those that are against a person.

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03 Jul 2008, 16:09
bhatiagp wrote:
goalsnr wrote:
bhatiagp wrote:
( I have picked up all these questions from allensoybean's post on Nov26 2007 ) .

Can you point to the ellipsis portion in this Sc:

It is as difficult to prevent crimes against property as those that are against a person.
(A) those that are against a
(B) those against a
(C) it is against a
(D) preventing those against a
(E) it is to prevent those against a

The ellipsis portion here is It is as difficult to prevent crimes against property as it is to prevent those that are against a person.

But Ellipsis refers to a mark or series of marks that usually indicate an intentional omission of a word or a phrase from the original text.
In this case we are not eliminating words.

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04 Jul 2008, 05:14
I agree with you goalsnr..

BTW .. Can anyone explain why we use the verb did ( to do) over verb had (to have)

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04 Jul 2008, 08:18
bhatiagp wrote:
I agree with you goalsnr..

BTW .. Can anyone explain why we use the verb did ( to do) over verb had (to have)

They expect, their parents "expected" => "did" (expect)

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