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I have seen many arguments where causality to be destroyed. I will like to share an odd one where its the opposite. Source : Kaplan
Aggressive fertility treatments are not responsible for the rise in the incidence of twin births. Rather, this increase can be attributed to the fact that women are waiting longer to become mothers. Statistically, women over 35 are more likely to conceive twins, and these women now comprise a greater percentage of women giving birth than ever before. The argument above is flawed in that it ignores the possibility that
A. many women over 35 who give birth to twins are not first-time mothers B. women over 35 are not the only women who give birth to twins C. the correlation between fertility treatments and the increased incidence of multiple births may be a coincidence D. on average, women over 35 are no more likely to conceive identical twins than other women are E. women over 35 are more likely to resort to the sorts of fertility treatments that tend to yield twin births
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30 Jul 2010, 02:32
The author concludes that aggressive fertility treatments are not responsible for rise in the incidence of twin births. Rather it is attributed to the fact that women are waiting longer to become mothers.
This is a simple causal flaw argument. There is a correlation between the rise in the incedence of twin births and women are waiting longer to become mothers. This correlation is CAUSAL LINK. However, the fact that two things are related does not prove that one caused the other. Here aggressive fertility is an UNDERRATED CAUSE. There4 now we understand what the flaw is and where the gap exists in the argument.
Looking at all the possibilities we can rule out the following- A-->may be true, but wont make any impact on the argument. Cant fill the gap. B-->a general statement. cant fill the gap. C-->OOS. Argument is not concerned about multiple births. D-->contradicting statement. Argument has explicitly stated that women over 35 are more likely to conceive twins
E logically fills the gap because the argument ignores the fact that woman who are above 35 and when they resort to the sorts of fertility treatment could be the reason for rise in the incidence of twin births.
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IMO E.
Premise: Women over 35 are predisposed to having twins. Premise: Women over 35 constitute an increasing percentage of women giving birth. Conclusion: Fertility treatments aren't responsible for the increase in the number of twins.
If you insert E as a new premise, it successfully invalidates the conlcusion and weakens the overall argument.
Originally posted by Gryphon on 30 Jul 2010, 02:50.
Last edited by Gryphon on 30 Jul 2010, 02:52, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: I have seen many arguments where causality to be destroyed.
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That was close. But didn't close the deal
But here argument wants to break away from causal relationship. To weaken it you have to re-establish the causal link. That's the catch.
tryingharder wrote:
This is a simple causal flaw argument. There is a correlation between the rise in the incedence of twin births and women are waiting longer to become mothers. This correlation is CAUSAL LINK. However, the fact that two things are related does not prove that one caused the other. Here aggressive fertility is an UNDERRATED CAUSE.
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nusmavrik wrote:
That was close. But didn't close the deal
But here argument wants to break away from causal relationship. To weaken it you have to re-establish the causal link. That's the catch.
tryingharder wrote:
This is a simple causal flaw argument. There is a correlation between the rise in the incedence of twin births and women are waiting longer to become mothers. This correlation is CAUSAL LINK. However, the fact that two things are related does not prove that one caused the other. Here aggressive fertility is an UNDERRATED CAUSE.
thnx 4 the clue budy this time it has to be C. No other choice looks like a possible possibility. hehe
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Sorry don't mean to change your answer. You stumbled upon the correct answer.
Conclusion: Fertility treatments aren't responsible for the increase in the number of twins. Here the arg is non causal. E makes the arg causal - hence weakens it!
C helps the argument. It strengthens it.
tryingharder wrote:
thnx 4 the clue budy this time it has to be C. No other choice looks like a possible possibility. hehe
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nusmavrik wrote:
Sorry don't mean to change your answer. You stumbled upon the correct answer.
Conclusion: Fertility treatments aren't responsible for the increase in the number of twins. Here the arg is non causal. E makes the arg causal - hence weakens it!
C helps the argument. It strengthens it.
tryingharder wrote:
thnx 4 the clue budy this time it has to be C. No other choice looks like a possible possibility. hehe
trust me not a fluke, i was tinking on the right lines and first time i was 200% sure about E. I know that C strengthens but then thought that there might be some catch. infact i was quite confused before picking C.
nywyz..got it now and good to know that E is correct
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You will love the Kaplan's OE. Its lengthy. Takeaway : Non-causal argument can be destroyed by the assumption which establishes the causal relationship.
19. (E) Reading the question stem first (always a fine idea) for question 19 warns you to be on the alert for something the author has overlooked. The author argues against the notion that fertility treatments are responsible for the increased incidence of twins by presenting an alternative explanation—that the increase has occurred because more women are having children later in life, and these older women are statistically more likely to bear twins. This sounds plausible, but remember the key questions in GMAT causal arguments: Can the causality be reversed? Is coincidence confused for cause? Could another cause have been at work? If women over 35 are much more likely to use fertility treatments that often result in twin births, then it’s possible that the twin births among older women are in fact due to fertility treatments. The problem (E) points out is not that the “alternative explanation” is illogical or impossible, but that it might be dependent on the very explanation it’s supposed to replace.
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