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If (n + 3)(n − 1) − (n − 2)(n − 1) = m(n − 1), what is the value of n?

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(1) |m| = 5
(2) m = 5
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Re: If (n + 3)(n − 1) − (n − 2)(n − 1) = m(n − 1), what is the value of n? [#permalink] New post   01 Nov 2018, 00:29
Bunuel wrote:
If (n + 3)(n − 1) − (n − 2)(n − 1) = m(n − 1), what is the value of n?

(1) |m| = 5
(2) m


Hi Bunuel, The statement 2 seems to be incomplete. Please check!

\((n+3)(n-1) - (n-2)(n-1) = m(n-1)\)

On first look, \((n-1)\) seems to be common through out.

\((n-1)[(n+3)-(n-2)] = m(n-1)\)
\((n-1)5 = m(n-1)\)

Hence,

\(n-1 = 0\) OR \(m =5\).

Hence we need one of these two conditions to be true for the equation to hold.

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Re: If (n + 3)(n − 1) − (n − 2)(n − 1) = m(n − 1), what is the value of n? [#permalink] New post   01 Nov 2018, 00:32
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If (n + 3)(n − 1) − (n − 2)(n − 1) = m(n − 1), what is the value of n?

(1) |m| = 5
(2) m


Hi Bunuel, The statement 2 seems to be incomplete. Please check!

\((n+3)(n-1) - (n-2)(n-1) = m(n-1)\)

On first look, \((n-1)\) seems to be common through out.

\((n-1)[(n+3)-(n-2)] = m(n-1)\)
\((n-1)5 = m(n-1)\)

Hence,

\(n-1 = 0\) OR \(m =5\).

Hence we need one of these two conditions to be true for the equation to hold.

Best Regards,
Gladi

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Re: If (n + 3)(n − 1) − (n − 2)(n − 1) = m(n − 1), what is the value of n? [#permalink] New post   01 Nov 2018, 09:50
We can simplify question to:
(n-1)(n+3-n+2) = m(n-1)
(n-1)*5 = m*(n-1)
m*(n-1) - 5*(n-1) = 0
(m-5)*(n-1) = 0 ............. (A)

Now, stmt 1: |m| = 5, i.e. m=5, or m = -5
If m = 5, then (A) becomes 0*(n-1) = 0, so n can be any value.
If m = -5, then (A) becomes -10*(n-1) = 0 or n = 1
Hence insufficient. Eliminate A,D

Now, stmt 2: m = 5, similar to above, (A) becomes 0*(n-1) = 0, so n can be any value.
Hence Insufficient. Eliminate B

Now, Combined, we get the condition, m = 5, again (A) becomes 0*(n-1) = 0, so n can be any value.
Hence insufficient. Eliminate C.

So as per my analysis, answer should be Option E
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Re: If (n + 3)(n − 1) − (n − 2)(n − 1) = m(n − 1), what is the value of n? [#permalink] New post   03 Nov 2018, 03:07
I am getting answer B. Someone please help :)

(n+3)(n-1) - (n-2)(n-1) = m(n-1)
(n^2+2n-3) - (n^2-3n+2) = m(n-1)
(n^2+2n-3) - n^2+3n-2 =mn-m
5n-5 = mn-m
5(n-1) = m(n-1)
m=5

Stmnt 1) Mod m = 5 --> m=5 or -5
since m=5 m can't be -5, hence insufficient.

Stmnt 2) m=5
sufficient??

Someone please explain. Made a mistake in simplifying question stem?
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Re: If (n + 3)(n − 1) − (n − 2)(n − 1) = m(n − 1), what is the value of n? [#permalink] New post   03 Nov 2018, 03:14
Hi PierTotti17,

You have simplified the stem correctly and arrived at the correct conclusion. For the expression to be true m has to be 5. But the question is asking for the value of n. Once m is 5 we cannot acertain the value of n as it could be anything and still the expression would be true. Plug in values of n=1 and n=10 to see this... Hence we cannot answer the question with st1 and st2 both.

So option (E) is the answer.

Let me know if this makes sense.

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I am getting answer B. Someone please help :)

(n+3)(n-1) - (n-2)(n-1) = m(n-1)
(n^2+2n-3) - (n^2-3n+2) = m(n-1)
(n^2+2n-3) - n^2+3n-2 =mn-m
5n-5 = mn-m
5(n-1) = m(n-1)
m=5

Stmnt 1) Mod m = 5 --> m=5 or -5
since m=5 m can't be -5, hence insufficient.

Stmnt 2) m=5
sufficient??

Someone please explain. Made a mistake in simplifying question stem?
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Re: If (n + 3)(n − 1) − (n − 2)(n − 1) = m(n − 1), what is the value of n? [#permalink] New post   03 Nov 2018, 03:38
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Hi PierTotti17,

You have simplified the stem correctly and arrived at the correct conclusion. For the expression to be true m has to be 5. But the question is asking for the value of n. Once m is 5 we cannot acertain the value of n as it could be anything and still the expression would be true. Plug in values of n=1 and n=10 to see this... Hence we cannot answer the question with st1 and st2 both.

So option (E) is the answer.

Let me know if this makes sense.

Best,
Gladi


PierTotti17 wrote:
I am getting answer B. Someone please help :)

(n+3)(n-1) - (n-2)(n-1) = m(n-1)
(n^2+2n-3) - (n^2-3n+2) = m(n-1)
(n^2+2n-3) - n^2+3n-2 =mn-m
5n-5 = mn-m
5(n-1) = m(n-1)
m=5

Stmnt 1) Mod m = 5 --> m=5 or -5
since m=5 m can't be -5, hence insufficient.

Stmnt 2) m=5
sufficient??

Someone please explain. Made a mistake in simplifying question stem?



And that's what happens when you skim the question: you look like a muppet. Thanks Gladiator for pointing out where I was going wrong.
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