GMAT Question of the Day - Daily to your Mailbox; hard ones only

It is currently 23 Jan 2019, 14:57

Close

GMAT Club Daily Prep

Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.

Close

Request Expert Reply

Confirm Cancel
Events & Promotions in January
PrevNext
SuMoTuWeThFrSa
303112345
6789101112
13141516171819
20212223242526
272829303112
Open Detailed Calendar
  • Key Strategies to Master GMAT SC

     January 26, 2019

     January 26, 2019

     07:00 AM PST

     09:00 AM PST

    Attend this webinar to learn how to leverage Meaning and Logic to solve the most challenging Sentence Correction Questions.
  • Free GMAT Number Properties Webinar

     January 27, 2019

     January 27, 2019

     07:00 AM PST

     09:00 AM PST

    Attend this webinar to learn a structured approach to solve 700+ Number Properties question in less than 2 minutes.

If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving

  new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  
Author Message
TAGS:

Hide Tags

 
Senior Manager
Senior Manager
User avatar
Status: Verbal Forum Moderator
Joined: 17 Apr 2013
Posts: 480
Location: India
GMAT 1: 710 Q50 V36
GMAT 2: 750 Q51 V41
GMAT 3: 790 Q51 V49
GPA: 3.3
If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post Updated on: 03 Jul 2018, 20:31
1
9
00:00
A
B
C
D
E

Difficulty:

  5% (low)

Question Stats:

86% (00:31) correct 14% (00:56) wrong based on 495 sessions

HideShow timer Statistics

If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving, it will be attracting many holiday shoppers.

A) would open by Thanksgiving, it will be attracting
B) would be opened by Thanksgiving, it would be able to attract
C) was opening by Thanksgiving, it would be able to attract
D) was to open by Thanksgiving, it also will attract
E) opens before Thanksgiving, it will attract

Can some one help me to understand that when do we use would, as would is the conditional Operator.

Sometimes some error are based on would.

Take the example of this sentence-

_________________

Like my post Send me a Kudos :) It is a Good manner.
My Debrief: http://gmatclub.com/forum/how-to-score-750-and-750-i-moved-from-710-to-189016.html


Originally posted by honchos on 01 Aug 2013, 12:07.
Last edited by Bunuel on 03 Jul 2018, 20:31, edited 3 times in total.
Edited the question, renamed the topic.
Most Helpful Expert Reply
Math Expert
User avatar
V
Joined: 02 Aug 2009
Posts: 7213
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving, it will be  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 07 Mar 2015, 06:55
3
2
If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving, it will be attracting many holiday shoppers.

A. would open by Thanksgiving, it will be attracting

B. would be opened by Thanksgiving, it would be able to attract

C. was opening by Thanksgiving, it would be able to attract

D. was to open by Thanksgiving, it also will attract

E. opens before Thanksgiving, it will attract

the question tests us for use of if clause...

if clause can never have would in it
if the second clause has will in it , if clause will have present tense
only E follows the two rules so ans E
_________________

1) Absolute modulus : http://gmatclub.com/forum/absolute-modulus-a-better-understanding-210849.html#p1622372
2)Combination of similar and dissimilar things : http://gmatclub.com/forum/topic215915.html
3) effects of arithmetic operations : https://gmatclub.com/forum/effects-of-arithmetic-operations-on-fractions-269413.html


GMAT online Tutor

General Discussion
VP
VP
User avatar
Status: Far, far away!
Joined: 02 Sep 2012
Posts: 1060
Location: Italy
Concentration: Finance, Entrepreneurship
GPA: 3.8
GMAT ToolKit User
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 01 Aug 2013, 12:34
1
1
The usage of would in the GMAT is refered mainly to:
I)Describe an hypothetical sytuation: "If I were tall, I would play basketball".
II)To make a prediction from the past. So if in a sentence you are "in the past" and you want to make a prediction => would is correct.
If you are "in the present" the correct word to use is "will".

trafficspinners wrote:
If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving, it will be attracting many holiday shoppers.

A) would open by Thanksgiving, it will be attracting
B) would be opened by Thanksgiving, it would be able to attract
C) was opening by Thanksgiving, it would be able to attract
D) was to open by Thanksgiving, it also will attract
E) opens before Thanksgiving, it will attract


E, though, is an example of what is called conditional sentence: if + present, will + future.
_________________

It is beyond a doubt that all our knowledge that begins with experience.

Kant , Critique of Pure Reason

Tips and tricks: Inequalities , Mixture | Review: MGMAT workshop
Strategy: SmartGMAT v1.0 | Questions: Verbal challenge SC I-II- CR New SC set out !! , My Quant

Rules for Posting in the Verbal Forum - Rules for Posting in the Quant Forum[/size][/color][/b]

Senior Manager
Senior Manager
User avatar
Status: Verbal Forum Moderator
Joined: 17 Apr 2013
Posts: 480
Location: India
GMAT 1: 710 Q50 V36
GMAT 2: 750 Q51 V41
GMAT 3: 790 Q51 V49
GPA: 3.3
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 01 Aug 2013, 12:38
What is correct-

"If I were tall, I would play basketball".

or

"If I was tall, I would play basketball".

was is correct or would is correct?
_________________

Like my post Send me a Kudos :) It is a Good manner.
My Debrief: http://gmatclub.com/forum/how-to-score-750-and-750-i-moved-from-710-to-189016.html

VP
VP
User avatar
Status: Far, far away!
Joined: 02 Sep 2012
Posts: 1060
Location: Italy
Concentration: Finance, Entrepreneurship
GPA: 3.8
GMAT ToolKit User
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 01 Aug 2013, 12:41
trafficspinners wrote:
What is correct-

"If I were tall, I would play basketball".

or

"If I was tall, I would play basketball".

was is correct or would is correct?


If I were tall, (...) is correct. This is a case of Subjunctive Mood.
_________________

It is beyond a doubt that all our knowledge that begins with experience.

Kant , Critique of Pure Reason

Tips and tricks: Inequalities , Mixture | Review: MGMAT workshop
Strategy: SmartGMAT v1.0 | Questions: Verbal challenge SC I-II- CR New SC set out !! , My Quant

Rules for Posting in the Verbal Forum - Rules for Posting in the Quant Forum[/size][/color][/b]

Senior Manager
Senior Manager
User avatar
Status: Verbal Forum Moderator
Joined: 17 Apr 2013
Posts: 480
Location: India
GMAT 1: 710 Q50 V36
GMAT 2: 750 Q51 V41
GMAT 3: 790 Q51 V49
GPA: 3.3
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 01 Aug 2013, 12:42
Wow, Now I will search for Subjunctive mood on Internet.
_________________

Like my post Send me a Kudos :) It is a Good manner.
My Debrief: http://gmatclub.com/forum/how-to-score-750-and-750-i-moved-from-710-to-189016.html

Senior Manager
Senior Manager
User avatar
Status: Verbal Forum Moderator
Joined: 17 Apr 2013
Posts: 480
Location: India
GMAT 1: 710 Q50 V36
GMAT 2: 750 Q51 V41
GMAT 3: 790 Q51 V49
GPA: 3.3
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 01 Aug 2013, 12:57
One problem with this sentence is that the first clause of an “if x, then y” sentence
should not contain the conditional verb “would”. The other problem is that the tense of
the second clause is incorrect. This is an “if x, then y” sentence in which the first
clause concerns a possible future event, and the second clause concerns a predicted
consequence of that event. The first clause should therefore be in the present tense,
and the second clause should be in the simple future tense (“it will attract”).
(A) This choice is incorrect as it repeats the original sentence.
(B) The first clause of this version is incorrect because: (1) it still contains "would",
and (2) there is no good reason to use the passive voice ("be opened") here. The
second clause is incorrect because it changes the meaning of the sentence by saying
that the store would merely "be able to" attract holiday shoppers.
(C) "If it was opening" is always incorrect. For a possible future event in an "if" clause,
you should normally use the present tense and the indicative mood: "If it opens". [If
you wanted to indicate skepticism about the possibility that the store will open, you
could use the subjunctive mood. But the correct way to do that would be to say "If it
opened" or "If it were to open" or "If it were opening".]
The second clause of this sentence is also incorrect, as explained in (B).
(D) "If it was to open" is always incorrect. As noted for (C), you should normally say "If
it opens". [If you wanted to change the meaning of the sentence, which is not a good
- 50 -
idea in sentence correction problems, you could use the subjunctive mood. But the
correct way to do that would be to say "If it opened" or "If it were to open" or "If it were
opening".]
In the second clause, "also" is unnecessary and somewhat illogical. The action in
the second clause will happen, if it happens at all, as a later result of what happens in
the first clause. The word "also" contains a suggestion of simultaneity that is
inappropriate in this context.
(E) CORRECT. We now have a correct “if x, then y” sentence, in which the first
clause is in the present tense and the second clause is in the simple future tense.



I am not happy with the above explanation-

Because this link says-

http://www.englishclub.com/grammar/verb ... -would.htm

would is also used as Conditionals
_________________

Like my post Send me a Kudos :) It is a Good manner.
My Debrief: http://gmatclub.com/forum/how-to-score-750-and-750-i-moved-from-710-to-189016.html

Manager
Manager
avatar
Status: Persevering
Joined: 15 May 2013
Posts: 159
Location: India
Concentration: Technology, Leadership
GMAT Date: 08-02-2013
GPA: 3.7
WE: Consulting (Consulting)
GMAT ToolKit User
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 03 Aug 2013, 09:41
trafficspinners wrote:
Wow, Now I will search for Subjunctive mood on Internet.


Search for hypothetical subjunctive then :)
_________________

--It's one thing to get defeated, but another to accept it.

Manager
Manager
avatar
Status: Persevering
Joined: 15 May 2013
Posts: 159
Location: India
Concentration: Technology, Leadership
GMAT Date: 08-02-2013
GPA: 3.7
WE: Consulting (Consulting)
GMAT ToolKit User
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 31 Oct 2013, 00:35
1
honchos wrote:
Why is B not correct.



Well the if part cannot have any would or could elements. Check the possible usage of if else. It is mentioned in the Manhattan Gmat SC guide.
_________________

--It's one thing to get defeated, but another to accept it.

Senior Manager
Senior Manager
User avatar
Status: Verbal Forum Moderator
Joined: 17 Apr 2013
Posts: 480
Location: India
GMAT 1: 710 Q50 V36
GMAT 2: 750 Q51 V41
GMAT 3: 790 Q51 V49
GPA: 3.3
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 31 Oct 2013, 00:37
ramannanda9 wrote:
honchos wrote:
Why is B not correct.



Well the if part cannot have any would or could elements. Check the possible usage of if else. It is mentioned in the Manhattan Gmat SC guide.


Noted!

_________________

Like my post Send me a Kudos :) It is a Good manner.
My Debrief: http://gmatclub.com/forum/how-to-score-750-and-750-i-moved-from-710-to-189016.html

Intern
Intern
avatar
Joined: 27 Nov 2014
Posts: 45
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving, it will be  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 07 Mar 2015, 11:15
chetan2u

If ( simple past), then (simple past or would- verb) --> does this construction make sense ?

Regards
SG
Math Expert
User avatar
V
Joined: 02 Aug 2009
Posts: 7213
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving, it will be  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 08 Mar 2015, 02:15
2
2
smartyguy wrote:
chetan2u

If ( simple past), then (simple past or would- verb) --> does this construction make sense ?

Regards
SG


hi SG,
there are three possiblities of if clause...
1)
type------------- if-clause ---------- main clause
1----------- Simple Present---------- will-future
2----------- Simple Past--------- would + infinitive
3----------- Past Perfect--------- would + have + past participle
_________________

1) Absolute modulus : http://gmatclub.com/forum/absolute-modulus-a-better-understanding-210849.html#p1622372
2)Combination of similar and dissimilar things : http://gmatclub.com/forum/topic215915.html
3) effects of arithmetic operations : https://gmatclub.com/forum/effects-of-arithmetic-operations-on-fractions-269413.html


GMAT online Tutor

Current Student
User avatar
V
Joined: 19 Mar 2012
Posts: 4354
Location: India
GMAT 1: 760 Q50 V42
GPA: 3.8
WE: Marketing (Non-Profit and Government)
If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving, it will be  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post Updated on: 20 Sep 2018, 02:37
1
One problem with this sentence is that the first clause of an “if x, then y” sentence should not contain the conditional verb “would”. The other problem is that the tense of the second clause is incorrect. This is an “if x, then y” sentence in which the first clause concerns a possible future event, and the second clause concerns a predicted consequence of that event. The first clause should therefore be in the present tense, and the second clause should be in the simple future tense (“it will attract”).

(A) This choice is incorrect as it repeats the original sentence.

(B) The first clause of this version is incorrect because: (1) it still contains "would", and (2) there is no good reason to use the passive voice ("be opened") here. The second clause is incorrect because it changes the meaning of the sentence by saying that the store would merely "be able to" attract holiday shoppers.

(C) "If it was opening" is always incorrect. For a possible future event in an "if" clause, you should normally use the present tense and the indicative mood: "If it opens". [If you wanted to indicate skepticism about the possibility that the store will open, you could use the subjunctive mood. But the correct way to do that would be to say "If it opened" or "If it were to open" or "If it were opening".] The second clause of this sentence is also incorrect, as explained in (B).

(D) "If it was to open" is always incorrect. As noted for (C), you should normally say "If it opens". [If you wanted to change the meaning of the sentence, which is not a good idea in sentence correction problems, you could use the subjunctive mood. But the correct way to do that would be to say "If it opened" or "If it were to open" or "If it were opening".] In the second clause, "also" is unnecessary and somewhat illogical. The action in the second clause will happen, if it happens at all, as a later result of what happens in the first clause. The word "also" contains a suggestion of simultaneity that is inappropriate in this context.

(E) CORRECT. We now have a correct “if x, then y” sentence, in which the first clause is in the present tense and the second clause is in the simple future tense.
_________________

Have an MBA application Question? ASK ME ANYTHING!

My Stuff: Four Years to 760 | MBA Trends for Indian Applicants

My GMAT Resources
V30-V40: How to do it! | GMATPrep SC | GMATPrep CR | GMATPrep RC | Critical Reasoning Megathread | CR: Numbers and Statistics | CR: Weaken | CR: Strengthen | CR: Assumption | SC: Modifier | SC: Meaning | SC: SV Agreement | RC: Primary Purpose | PS/DS: Numbers and Inequalities | PS/DS: Combinatorics and Coordinates

My MBA Resources
Everything about the MBA Application | Over-Represented MBA woes | Fit Vs Rankings | Low GPA: What you can do | Letter of Recommendation: The Guide | Indian B Schools accepting GMAT score | Why MBA?

My Reviews
How I got into five schools from zero - Applicant Lab Review
Veritas Prep Live Online


Originally posted by souvik101990 on 29 Mar 2015, 19:14.
Last edited by Bunuel on 20 Sep 2018, 02:37, edited 1 time in total.
Formatted.
Non-Human User
User avatar
Joined: 01 Oct 2013
Posts: 3578
Premium Member
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving  [#permalink]

Show Tags

New post 27 Jul 2018, 11:32
Hello from the GMAT Club VerbalBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
_________________

-
April 2018: New Forum dedicated to Verbal Strategies, Guides, and Resources

GMAT Club Bot
Re: If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving &nbs [#permalink] 27 Jul 2018, 11:32
Display posts from previous: Sort by

If the new department store would open by Thanksgiving

  new topic post reply Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  


Copyright

GMAT Club MBA Forum Home| About| Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy| GMAT Club Rules| Contact| Sitemap

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne

Kindly note that the GMAT® test is a registered trademark of the Graduate Management Admission Council®, and this site has neither been reviewed nor endorsed by GMAC®.