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# If x and y are positive, what's the value of x? 1. 200% of x

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If x and y are positive, what's the value of x?

1. 200% of x = 400% of y
2. xy is the square of a positive integer

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10 Aug 2009, 10:20
yezz wrote:
If x and y are positive, what's the value of x?

1. 200% of x = 400% of y
2. xy is the square of a positive integer

I get E.

1) we don't have value of y,so insufficient.
2) xy can be 1,4,9,...
combining,
x/y = 2, now if x is a fraction y is also a fraction, in that case xy would not be a square of a positive integer, so x and y are integers.
I could not find any combination where x/y = 2 and xy is a square of a positive integer.

OA and OE pls

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10 Aug 2009, 10:24
Economist wrote:
yezz wrote:
If x and y are positive, what's the value of x?

1. 200% of x = 400% of y
2. xy is the square of a positive integer

I get E.

1) we don't have value of y,so insufficient.
2) xy can be 1,4,9,...
combining,
x/y = 2, now if x is a fraction y is also a fraction, in that case xy would not be a square of a positive integer, so x and y are integers.
I could not find any combination where x/y = 2 and xy is a square of a positive integer.

OA and OE pls

will do after some discussion..ok

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10 Aug 2009, 11:07
E

I don't think there is any combination where x = 2y and xy is a perfect square.

xy = z^2
2y^2 = z^2
z = y . Sqrt2

and both z and y are integers. I don't know if there is any

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10 Aug 2009, 11:12
St. 1 : No values for x or y. So Insuff.

St. 2: XY can have multiple values. Insuff.

Combined: We know from St. 1, x = 2y, hence xy = 2y.y = 2y^2.

Now, if y = 2^-.5, then 2y^2 = 2. 1 / (2^.5)^2 = 1. (x & y can be fractions, but not xy.)

1 is a square of a positive integer, 1.

For no other value of y will this hold true. Hence, sufficient.

So, C for me.

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10 Aug 2009, 11:20
Good one Jivana. So finally we got a possibility Thanks!
C.

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10 Aug 2009, 11:34
Econ... u wr right ....E

St1: x = 2y Infinite possibilities: INSUFF

St2: xy is a perfect square. Infinite possibilities: INSUFF

Together:
xy = 2x^2

2x^2 is a perfect square.
x = √8, y = 2* √8
x = √18 y = 2*√18
Infinitie possibilities: INSUFF

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10 Aug 2009, 21:28
arghhhhhhh !!! Thanks for the clarification yezz

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