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Yeah, I think so. But there is no reason to take the special case of 4, it can be proven for a general k.

I had an alternate solution :

(1) & (2) are clearly not sufficient as k is arbitrary and can be large enough or small enough to force any condition on mean or median seperately

For (1) + (2) : Statement (2) implies y>k. Statement (1) implies x+y+z<3k. Now if you assume x+z=2y the above two inequalities are inconsistent ==> Contradiction ==> The answer to the question is always "No"

Hence (C)

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Yeah, I think so. But there is no reason to take the special case of 4, it can be proven for a general k.

I had an alternate solution :

(1) & (2) are clearly not sufficient as k is arbitrary and can be large enough or small enough to force any condition on mean or median seperately

For (1) + (2) : Statement (2) implies y>k. Statement (1) implies x+y+z<3k. Now if you assume x+z=2y the above two inequalities are inconsistent ==> Contradiction ==> The answer to the question is always "No"

Hence (C)

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Yes you are right: as "4" in original question is purely arbitrary we can replace it with any other number or with unknown k as you did.

Question: is \(2y=x+z\)?

For (1): \(x+y+z<3k\);
For (2): \(k\) can not be the the largest term, thus it must be less than \(y\);

(1)+(2) As \(x+y+z<3k\) and \(k<y\) then \(2y=x+z\) can not be true. Sufficient.

Answer: C.
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(1)+(2) As x+y+z<3k and k<y then 2y=x+z can not be true.

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(1)+(2) As x+y+z<3k and k<y then 2y=x+z can not be true.

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\(x+y+z<3k\) and \(k<y\), or \(3k<3y\) --> sum these two \(x+y+z+3k<3k+3y\) --> \(x+z<2y\), so \(x+z=2y\) is not true.
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The question essentially asks if the integers x,y and z are in progression (equally spaced) or not?

Stmt1: on solving we get, x+y+z<12. - clearly not sufficient.
Stmt2: considering a set is un-ordered, the middle numbers to consider for median can be 4,y or y,4. Therefore, (y+4)/2 < y.
This gives us y>4. The next integer which Y can be is 5, but it does not gives us anything about x and z. Hence Not Sufficient.

Combining, for x+y+z<12 , if Y=5 then Z=6, which gives us x<1. Clearly shows X,Y and Z are not going to be equally spaced out. Hence the answer 'C'
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If x, y, and z are integers, and x < y < z, is z – y = y – x?

(1) The mean of the set {x, y, z, 4} is greater than the mean of the set {x, y, z}.
(2) The median of the set {x, y, z, 4} is less than the median of the set {x, y, z}.

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The only set of values possible are x < ; y >= 5; z >= 6
More importantly, this tells us that x, y and z can never be equidistant from each other (which is a condition necessary for 2y = x + z). Thus the question stem will always be false.
Sufficient.

Answer : C


But if you look at it closely,
x, y and z can be equidistant, and in fact, consecutive. Makes me think that the option would be E.
I need some clarification. All explanations are appreciated!
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If x, y, and z are integers, and x < y < z, is z – y = y – x?

(1) The mean of the set {x, y, z, 4} is greater than the mean of the set {x, y, z}.
(2) The median of the set {x, y, z, 4} is less than the median of the set {x, y, z}.

Bunuel sriharimurthy chetan2u gmatbusters VeritasKarishma
My friend here has mentioned
sriharimurthy wrote:
The only set of values possible are x < ; y >= 5; z >= 6
More importantly, this tells us that x, y and z can never be equidistant from each other (which is a condition necessary for 2y = x + z). Thus the question stem will always be false.
Sufficient.

Answer : C


But if you look at it closely,
x, y and z can be equidistant, and in fact, consecutive. Makes me think that the option would be E.
I need some clarification. All explanations are appreciated!


Hi,

The answer will be C itself and x, y and z cannot be equally spaced..

If these were equally spaced, the addition of a new number will have SAME effect on the median and mean, either both will increase or both will decrease..
The median and mean if x, y , z are equally spaced will be y. Let the number be 0,5,10. Now three scenarios of the new number being added.
(1) If number is greater than y..... Both median and mean will increase... say 7, so 0, 5, 7, 10...Median = 6, Mean=5.5
(2) If number is equal to y....... Both will remain same, that is y.... say 5, so 0, 5, 5, 10...Median = 5, Mean=5
(3) If number is less than y..... Both median and mean will decrease.... say 4, so 0, 4, 5, 10...Median = 4.5, Mean=4.75

Thus, the statements given can never point towards equally spaced set x, y, z..

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If x, y, and z are integers, and x < y < z, is z – y = y – x?

(1) The mean of the set {x, y, z, 4} is greater than the mean of the set {x, y, z}.
(2) The median of the set {x, y, z, 4} is less than the median of the set {x, y, z}.


Given: x < y < z

Is z - y = y - x
Is y equidistant from z and x (in their middle)?
Is y the mean and median of {x, y, z}? (y will not be the mean if it is not in the centre of x and z)

(1) The mean of the set {x, y, z, 4} is greater than the mean of the set {x, y, z}.

This just tells us that if y is the mean, y < 4.
In any case, 4 is greater than the mean of set {x, y, z}.

(2) The median of the set {x, y, z, 4} is less than the median of the set {x, y, z}.

This just tells us that if y is the median of the set, y > 4.
In any case, 4 is less than the median of the set {x, y, z}.

Using both statements together, we know that if y is the mean and median of {x, y, z} (if y is equidistant from both), then y must be less than 4 as well as greater than 4. That is not possible. So y would not be the mean and median.
Hence, z - y is not equal to y - x.

Answer (C)
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If x, y, and z are integers, and x < y < z, is z – y = y – x?

(1) The mean of the set {x, y, z, 4} is greater than the mean of the set {x, y, z}.
(2) The median of the set {x, y, z, 4} is less than the median of the set {x, y, z}.


\((x,y,z)=integers…z-y=y-x…z+x=2y…y=(z+x)/2…y=avg(x,y)?\)

(1) The mean of the set {x, y, z, 4} is greater than the mean of the set {x, y, z}. insufic

\(\frac{x+y+z+4}{4}>\frac{x+y+z}{3}…x+y+z<12\)

(2) The median of the set {x, y, z, 4} is less than the median of the set {x, y, z}. sufic

\(median(x,y,z,4)<median(x,y,z)=y\)
\(med(4,x,y,z)=(x+y/2)<y…x<y=valid…4<x<y<z\)
\(med(x,4,y,z)=(4+y/2)<y…4<y=valid…x≤4<y<z\)
\(med(x,y,z,4)=(y+z/2)<y…z<y=invalid\)

(1&2) sufic

\(x+y+z<12…x<y…(4<x<y<z)…x+y+z=5+6+7=18>12…invalid\)
\(x+y+z<12…4<y…(x≤4<y<z)…x+y+z=x+5+6<12…x<1…y≠avg(x,y)\)

Ans (C)
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