Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.

It appears that you are browsing the GMAT Club forum unregistered!

Signing up is free, quick, and confidential.
Join other 500,000 members and get the full benefits of GMAT Club

Registration gives you:

Tests

Take 11 tests and quizzes from GMAT Club and leading GMAT prep companies such as Manhattan GMAT,
Knewton, and others. All are free for GMAT Club members.

Applicant Stats

View detailed applicant stats such as GPA, GMAT score, work experience, location, application
status, and more

Books/Downloads

Download thousands of study notes,
question collections, GMAT Club’s
Grammar and Math books.
All are free!

Thank you for using the timer!
We noticed you are actually not timing your practice. Click the START button first next time you use the timer.
There are many benefits to timing your practice, including:

This is not a good question, (well at least strange enough) as neither of statement is needed to answer the question, stem is enough to do so. This is the only question from the official source where the statements aren't needed to answer the question. I doubt that such a question will occur on real test but if it ever happens then the answer would be D.

If \(zy<xy<0\) is \(|x-z|+|x| = |z|\)

Look at the inequality \(zy<xy<0\):

We can have two cases:

A. If \(y<0\) --> when reducing we should flip signs and we'll get: \(z>x>0\). In this case: as \(z>x\) --> \(|x-z|=-x+z\); as \(x>0\) and \(z>0\) --> \(|x|=x\) and \(|z|=z\).

Hence in this case \(|x-z|+|x|=|z|\) will expand as follows: \(-x+z+x=z\) --> \(0=0\), which is true.

And:

B. If \(y>0\) --> when reducing we'll get: \(z<x<0\). In this case: as \(z<x\) --> \(|x-z|=x-z\); as \(x<0\) and \(z<0\) --> \(|x|=-x\) and \(|z|=-z\).

Hence in this case \(|x-z|+|x|=|z|\) will expand as follows: \(x-z-x=-z\) --> \(0=0\), which is true.

So knowing that \(zy<xy<0\) is true, we can conclude that \(|x-z|+|x| = |z|\) will also be true. Answer should be D even not considering the statements themselves.

As for the statements:

Statement (1) says that \(z<x\), hence we have case B.

Statement (2) says that \(y>0\), again we have case B.

You can solve such questions easily by re-stating '< 0' as 'negative' and '> 0' as 'positive'.

zy < xy < 0 implies both 'zy' and 'xy' are negative and zy is more negative i.e. has greater absolute value as compared to xy. Since y will be equal in both, z will have a greater absolute value as compared to x.

When will zy and xy both be negative? In 2 cases: Case 1: When y is positive and z and x are both negative. Case 2: When y is negative and z and x are both positive.

Question: Is | x - z | + |x| = |z| ? Is | x - z | = |z| - |x| ? Is | z - x | = |z| - |x| ? (Since | x - z | = | z - x |) We re-write the question only for better understanding.

Now think, when will | z - x | = |z| - |x| ? It happens when x and z have the same sign. In case both have the same sign, they get subtracted on both sides so you get the same answer. In case they have opposite signs, they get added on LHS and subtracted on RHS and hence the equality doesn't hold.

So if we can figure whether both x and z have the same sign, we can answer the question.

As we saw above, in both case 1 and case 2, x and z must have the same sign. This implies that the equality must hold and you don't actually need the statements to answer the question. You can answer it without the statements (this shouldn't happen in actual GMAT). Hence answer must be (D).
_________________

Hi, rgtiwari Draw a number line and put 0 in the middle of it. now look at the data you are given. zy<xy<0. we don't know if y is positive or negative. if y>0 than z is on the left of x which is on the left of zero => z<x and both z & x are originally negative. the opposite if y<0, x will be on the right of zero and z will be on the right of x. => z>x. and both are originally positive. in both cases it seems that the equation is correct. but don't bother to check that just look at the extra data and continue from there. If you find it hard to understand with variables just use numbers instead. now let's look at (1) it tells you that z<x so we know that this is the first case only => the equality is definitely correct (just use numbers that maintain the data in the first case) - Sufficient. (2) it tells you that y>0. again we are at the first case. - Sufficient.

pay attention that this is not a coincidence that the extra data given leads you in (1) and (2) to the same conclusion. if it doesn't you should suspect whether it's D or not.

Re: If zy < xy < 0, is | x - z | + |x| = |z|? [#permalink]

Show Tags

17 Sep 2012, 23:44

2

This post received KUDOS

rgtiwari wrote:

If zy < xy < 0, is | x - z | + |x| = |z|?

(1) z < x (2) y > 0

Since zy < 0 and xy < 0, both z and x have opposite sign to y, so they must be either both positive or both negative. In other words, we know that xz > 0.

(1) Given that z < x, when both z and x are negative, |z - x| + |x| = -z + x + (-x) = -z = |z| TRUE z and x cannot be both positive, because then y would be negative, and from zy < xy we would obtain that z > x. Sufficient.

(2) Knowing that y > 0, we can deduce that both z and x are negative. In addition, from zy < xy it follows that z < x, and we are in the same case as above. Sufficient.

Answer D
_________________

PhD in Applied Mathematics Love GMAT Quant questions and running.

If | z - x |= |z| - |x| assuming x & z have same sign | x - z |= |z| - |x| ; Since | x - z | = | z - x |

Implies |z| - |x| = |x| - |z| which is defn not true z = 1 , x = 2 Plugging, we get - 1 = 1 ?!?

Have I misunderstood something?

Before discussing this part, I have discussed in my post that absolute value of z must be greater than absolute value of x. If absolute value of z is not greater than absolute value of x, then | z - x |= |z| - |x| does not hold when x and z have the same sign.

Since |z| must be greater than |x|, | x - z | = |x| - |z| does not hold.
_________________

Re: If zy<xy<0 is |x-z| + |x| = |z|? 1. z<x>0 2. [#permalink]

Show Tags

17 Sep 2012, 14:16

1

This post received KUDOS

successstory wrote:

If zy<xy<0 is |x-z| + |x| = |z|?

1. z<x>0 2. y>0

answer d.

why not a?

The question surprisingly does not require either statements for it to be true.

|x-z| + |x| = |z| can be rearranged as |x-z| = |z|-|x|. Now since we have an equal sign( opposed to an inequality, in which we would have to check both sides to make sure they are both positive or both negative to square (and flip)), we square both sides to get (|x-z|)^2 = (|z|-|x|)^2 which yields ===> xz=|x||z|

So our question becomes: Is xz=|x||z|?

Well this can only be true if (x>0 and z>0) OR (x<0 and z<0). In other words x and z must both be the same sign for the above statement to be true.

Now we are given zy<xy<0 as a fact. Two cases arise (+)(-)<(+)(-)<0 or (-)(+)<(-)(+)<0. Notice in both cases x and z are always the same sign!!!!! This statement is true from the gecko. Hence whatever unnecessary statement GMAC tells us will be sufficient. This is an usual problem you wont see again.

Is this really a 600 level question? Given its time consuming nature, seems more like a 750 level one.

Bunuel wrote:

This is not a good question, (well at least strange enough) as neither of statement is needed to answer the question, stem is enough to do so. This is the only question from the official source where the statements aren't needed to answer the question. I doubt that such a question will occur on real test but if it ever happen then the answer should be D.

If \(zy<xy<0\) is \(|x-z|+|x| = |z|\)

Look at the inequality \(zy<xy<0\):

We can have two cases:

A. If \(y<0\) --> when reducing we should flip signs and we'll get: \(z>x>0\). In this case: as \(z>x\) --> \(|x-z|=-x+z\); as \(x>0\) and \(z>0\) --> \(|x|=x\) and \(|z|=z\).

Hence in this case \(|x-z|+|x|=|z|\) will expand as follows: \(-x+z+x=z\) --> \(0=0\), which is true.

And:

B. If \(y>0\) --> when reducing we'll get: \(z<x<0\). In this case: as \(z<x\) --> \(|x-z|=x-z\); as \(x<0\) and \(z<0\) --> \(|x|=-x\) and \(|z|=-z\).

Hence in this case \(|x-z|+|x|=|z|\) will expand as follows: \(x-z-x=-z\) --> \(0=0\), which is true.

So knowing that \(zy<xy<0\) is true, we can conclude that \(|x-z|+|x| = |z|\) will also be true. Answer should be D even not considering the statements themselves.

As for the statements:

Statement (1) says that \(z<x\), hence we have case B.

Statement (2) says that \(y>0\), again we have case B.

Re: If zy < xy < 0, is | x - z | + |x| = |z|? [#permalink]

Show Tags

08 Feb 2013, 11:18

1

This post received KUDOS

The question is not good. The target question "If zy < xy < 0, is | x - z | + |x| = |z|?" tells us zy<xy<0, that is, z and x have the same sign, Thus, target question could be rephrased as "| x - z | = |z|-|x| ?"=> "|z|>|x| ?" The condition zy<xy<0 could be rephrased as |zy|>|xy|>0 => |z|>|x| , which is already enough to solve the question.

y(z-x) < 0 thus z is not = x and x is not equal to zero

if we square the 2 sides of the question

we get

x^2 + z^2 - 2xz +2x^2 - 2xz +x^2 = z^2 this boiles down to is 4x ( x-z) = 0 ? the answer is yes if x = 0 or x=z and no if we can know for sure that neother x=z nor x = 0

and this is given in the question stem.... neither givens are needed ..........as the answer is for sure NO

Re: If zy < xy < 0, is | x - z | + |x| = |z|? [#permalink]

Show Tags

18 Jun 2014, 09:13

1

This post received KUDOS

Hello from the GMAT Club BumpBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
_________________

Re: If zy < xy < 0, is | x - z | + |x| = |z|? [#permalink]

Show Tags

19 Jun 2015, 12:53

1

This post received KUDOS

Hello from the GMAT Club BumpBot!

Thanks to another GMAT Club member, I have just discovered this valuable topic, yet it had no discussion for over a year. I am now bumping it up - doing my job. I think you may find it valuable (esp those replies with Kudos).

Want to see all other topics I dig out? Follow me (click follow button on profile). You will receive a summary of all topics I bump in your profile area as well as via email.
_________________

If zy < xy < 0, is | x - z | + |x| = |z|? [#permalink]

Show Tags

29 Nov 2015, 20:19

|x-z| + |x| = |z| ?

|x-z| = (absolute value of the sum of x and z, if x and z have different signs) OR (absolute value of the difference between x and z, if x and z have the same sign)

|x-z| = |z| - |x|? Reformulated questions:

Q1) Do x and z have the same sign?(|z| - |x| represents a difference not a sum, so in |x-z|, x and z should have the same sign for this to be true) and Q2) is |z| > |x|(The difference |z| - |x| is positive, therefore |z| should be > |x|)?

Information given in the question:

zy < xy < 0: gives two possibilities:

Possibility 1) y is negative and x and z are positive and the z > x Possibility 2) y is positive and x and z are negative and z < x, |z| > |x|

Statement (1) z < x, therefore possibility 2 is true, both x and z are negative, and the equality is correct. Statement (2) y > 0, therefore possibility 2 is true, both x and z are negative, and the equality is correct.

Forget conventional ways of solving math questions. In DS, Variable approach is the easiest and quickest way to find the answer without actually solving the problem. Remember equal number of variables and independent equations ensures a solution.

If zy < xy < 0, is | x - z | + |x| = |z|?

(1) z < x (2) y > 0

We get y(z-x)<0, is |x-z|=|z|-|x|?, zx>0 and z>x? if we modify the question. There are 3 variables (x,y,z) and 1 equation in the original condition, 2 more equations in the given conditions, so there is high chance (C) will be the answer. But condition 1=condition 2 answering the question 'no' and sufficient. The answer therefore becomes (D).

For cases where we need 2 more equations, such as original conditions with “2 variables”, or “3 variables and 1 equation”, or “4 variables and 2 equations”, we have 1 equation each in both 1) and 2). Therefore, there is 70% chance that C is the answer, while E has 25% chance. These two are the majority. In case of common mistake type 3,4, the answer may be from A, B or D but there is only 5% chance. Since C is most likely to be the answer using 1) and 2) separately according to DS definition (It saves us time). Obviously there may be cases where the answer is A, B, D or E.
_________________

The question although doe slook menacing but can be solved easily.

You are given zy<xy ---> y (z-x)<0

Per statement 1, z<x --> x-z>0 ---> |x-z| = x-z , thus the LHS of the question becomes = 2x-z and this is definitely not = z .

Per statement 2, y > 0. This also leads to the same information as in statement 1 as from y (z-x)<0 --> if y > 0 then the only case possible is for z<x and as shown in statement 1 , this is sufficient to answer the question.

D is the thus the correct answer.
_________________

Re: If zy < xy < 0, is | x - z | + |x| = |z|? [#permalink]

Show Tags

17 Mar 2016, 00:21

data in question stem : zy<xy<0

look at options A) z<x that means 'y' is positive and option B) says the same thing y>0 that means both statements eventually say the same thing so the answer must be either E or D take y>0 case and see , we can establish a CONFORM YES condition answer must be D

Re: If zy < xy < 0, is | x - z | + |x| = |z|? [#permalink]

Show Tags

07 Apr 2016, 07:15

Experts please help. What level would you rate this problem? I am currently doing a DS set and got this question right in around 2 minutes but then read that its a sub-600 level some where. Please confirm?

Experts please help. What level would you rate this problem? I am currently doing a DS set and got this question right in around 2 minutes but then read that its a sub-600 level some where. Please confirm?

Hi,

few points-- 1) Here it is marked 700 level Q.... 2) In actuality it should be close to 700 only sice it deals in two difficult and confusing topics for many - Modulus and Inequalities

Having said that Do not worry about the difficulty level ans least of all, do not let it effect your frame of mind.., it varies from person to person and their strengths. Some one good at inequality may feel it is very easy and at the same time may find a simple Probability as a uphill task... There are few who are able to do 600-700 level but falter on sub-600, as they look for some trap everywhere.. So, Do not worry much about all this and master all topics
_________________

Its been long time coming. I have always been passionate about poetry. It’s my way of expressing my feelings and emotions. And i feel a person can convey...

Written by Scottish historian Niall Ferguson , the book is subtitled “A Financial History of the World”. There is also a long documentary of the same name that the...

Post-MBA I became very intrigued by how senior leaders navigated their career progression. It was also at this time that I realized I learned nothing about this during my...