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In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

A. his translation of the Illiad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced
B. his translation of the Illiad, a work that took him seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced
C. his translation of the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it is
D. translating the Illiad, a work that took seven years until completion and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it as
E. translating the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it

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In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

Meaning:
Alexander Pope began his translation of Illiad and this took him seven years to complete. This work was pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

Sentence analysis:
Alexander Pope (Subject)...............began (verb)

that (subject and refers to work here).................no verb (took is the correct form of verb here because this work took him seven years UNTIL completion)
Taking cannot act as verb on its own. '-ing' words need a helping verb such as is, are, etc.

Samuel Johnson (subject)................pronounced (verb)

'that' before Samuel Johnson refers to work and acts as a connector and shows parallelism.

Is my understanding of 'that' correct here?


Yes, you have very well understood the usage of that in this sentence.
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Shiv2016 wrote:
In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

Meaning:
Alexander Pope began his translation of Illiad and this took him seven years to complete. This work was pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

Sentence analysis:
Alexander Pope (Subject)...............began (verb)

that (subject and refers to work here).................no verb (took is the correct form of verb here because this work took him seven years UNTIL completion)
Taking cannot act as verb on its own. '-ing' words need a helping verb such as is, are, etc.

Samuel Johnson (subject)................pronounced (verb)

'that' before Samuel Johnson refers to work and acts as a connector and shows parallelism.

Is my understanding of 'that' correct here?


Yes, you have very well understood the usage of that in this sentence.


Thanks for such a prompt reply.

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Only B & E are seemed quite good to be OA. I think E could be the answer. E has only 1 ambiguity ' it ' that sounds redundant.
I 've chosen E not B because GMAT always set traps by using past perfect (when 2 situations have been described ) but for B it's not ; WHY??

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Only B & E are seemed quite good to be OA. I think E could be the answer. E has only 1 ambiguity ' it ' that sounds redundant.
I 've chosen E not B because GMAT always set traps by using past perfect (when 2 situations have been described ) but for B it's not ; WHY??


E has many flaws, other than "it" ambiguity. It says the work has taken 7 years to complete. Who does that work? Alexander or someone else? As per the meaning of the sentence, Alexander tool seven years to complete that work. So, B clearly tells us that.

Next issue: There is a missing modifier that in E, which changes the original meaning of the sentence. Without this modifier, E becomes a run on sentence.
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In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

A. his translation of the Illiad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced
B. his translation of the Illiad, a work that took him seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced
C. his translation of the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it is
D. translating the Illiad, a work that took seven years until completion and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it as
E. translating the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it


A "That" cannot be followed by a participial phrase.
B Correct.
C "Pronounced it is" not idiomatic. That said, "it" is redundant because the object of the pronouncement is already given.
D That said, "it" is redundant because the object of the pronouncement is already given as the subject of the relative clause.
E That said, "it" is redundant because the object of the pronouncement is already given as the subject of the relative clause.

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can't go against true guru here :) but B seems to be the best choice...

btw... what is the idiom with pronounced? can we say "pronounced as"?

yes straight B.

pronounce(d) don't take anything

but when used as present participle (i.e pronouncing) then takes "on"
for example: pronouncing on the issues of the day.

See this:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pronounced



Why are we not considering Past perfect even there are 2 incident happening in past.

1)wrote a book and took him 7 years
2) without knowing how the book is his opponent cant judge if its best or not

so there are 2 incidents

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In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

A. his translation of the Illiad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced
B. his translation of the Illiad, a work that took him seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced
C. his translation of the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it is
D. translating the Illiad, a work that took seven years until completion and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it as
E. translating the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it



I have one doubt:

Is it correct to write:

that literary critic Samuel Johnson pronounced the greatest translation in any language. Is it same as if I say : Tom pronounced the greatest translation in any language.
And if so why we need "that". Please someone explian .

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Why are we not considering Past perfect even there are 2 incident happening in past.

1)wrote a book and took him 7 years
2) without knowing how the book is his opponent cant judge if its best or not

so there are 2 incidents

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Hi rocko911 ,

Past perfect is used when we explicitly want to tell which event occurred before another in the past.

When the sentence clearly tells us the sequence, you don't need to use past perfect.

In this question, it is clear that writing a book took him 7 years. First he began and then completed. So, we don't need to use past perfect.

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I have one doubt:

Is it correct to write:

that literary critic Samuel Johnson pronounced the greatest translation in any language. Is it same as if I say : Tom pronounced the greatest translation in any language.
And if so why we need "that". Please someone explian .


Hi gmat4varun ,

While comparing the first sentence "that literary critic Samuel Johnson pronounced the greatest translation in any language" with "Tom pronounced the greatest translation in any language.", you didn't realize the change in meaning.

The sentence in the original equation says a work took him seven years and a work the someone pronounced the greatest translation. This is actually the use of passive voice. Author is saying work was pronounced the greatest translation. Here, the author is "literary critic Samuel Johnson".

Did you notice the real meaning of the sentence now?

Remember, meaning is very important while concluding any right answer.

I hope it makes sense. :)
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If this sentence would have started by By 1713, -- Then we could have used "had"?

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I still dont understand why many comments above said: "it" is redundant?

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I still dont understand why many comments above said: "it" is redundant?


Hello BinhFantasia - Lets first understand what 'it' in this case refers to? And as you might have guessed the pronoun 'it' is referring to 'work' here.

Now lets replace the underlined portion with the option C

With Pronoun 'it'

In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced it is the greatest translation in any language.

Replacing pronoun 'it' with a noun

In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Illiad, a work that had taken seven years to complete and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced work is the greatest translation in any language.

If you replace 'it' with 'work' you can see that we are unnecessarily repeating or rather referencing the word 'work' here - the word 'that' already refers to 'work' and hence the usage of 'it' is redundant here.

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