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can we have mulitple 'had''s in a sentence?...how do we know the sequencing of the events in that case?


Hi,

For the sequencing you first identify the number of verbs in each clause.

For Eg. in this sentence the verbs are:" wanted" , "scoffed" and "had made".

Now you want to fill it in a time line starting from the past to present date or till future whichever be the case.

Her adviseries "scoffed" when she "wanted" both these verbs are happening simulataneously in the past."made" comes after those two verbs. Now in order to show different phases in time we have to use the "past particicple" form for the event which occured earlier and the simple past for what comes next.

I hope its clear. :)

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Thanks dominic...this is a little confusing. This is the first time i am seeing mulitple 'had's in a sentence. Have you come across this before?
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Thanks dominic...this is a little confusing. This is the first time i am seeing mulitple 'had's in a sentence. Have you come across this before?


Yes we can see multiple had.. thumb rule is to find the verbs and see where and how they fall in the timeline.... In fact we can see "had had" as well.

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Concept: When we have a series of events that occurred in the past and ended the past, the last of the events entails a simple past and the previous events, any number, one or more, will entail past perfect.
In the given issue
First event: In the 1950s, Mother wanted to form an orphanage
Second event: her adversaries scoffed at her
Third and the last event: in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will had made her dream come true

As per the thumb rule, the last event should be in the simple past as - a resolute missionary will made her dream come true -

The previous two events will take on the past perfect verbs as – Mother had wanted to …….. And her adversaries had scoffed at her

B only wins the tense debate, doesn’t it? Well! that has not come out as a choice so far.



One fact that has confused me is that : when clauses are linked by and or but , then in general we don't need past perfect between them. ( As per Manhattan SC Book). Based on this do we need to link last action/event with the other two events through past perfect tense.
To simplify, Wanted ( should be in past perfect) and Scoffed (should be in simple past) , and ( made also in simple past, bcs it's connected to main clause with conjunction "but")

will you shed some light on this and how to deal going forward.....
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Hello,

question, why do we refer to "will made..." in answer B, which is the correct option, as simple past? How can this tense be simple past if it is accompanied by "will"?

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question, why do we refer to "will made..." in answer B, which is the correct option, as simple past? How can this tense be simple past if it is accompanied by "will"?

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Please go through the previous postings, particularly those of earnit and Dominic for an answer to your query.
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One fact that has confused me is that : when clauses are linked by and or but , then in general we don't need past perfect between them. ( As per Manhattan SC Book). Based on this do we need to link last action/event with the other two events through past perfect tense.
To simplify, Wanted ( should be in past perfect) and Scoffed (should be in simple past) , and ( made also in simple past, bcs it's connected to main clause with conjunction "but")

will you shed some light on this and how to deal going forward.....


Please look into the link to find Mike’s explanation of multiple past perfects in the same clause and to see whether the use of conjunctions impacts choice of tenses.
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/sequence-o ... orrection/
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Below is the link for all the information you need to answer these kind of questions. mikemcgarry has explained the whole concept exceptionally well with examples. Once you go through the whole article you will not have any doubt answering such questions as this.

http://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/sequence-o ... orrection/

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