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E is wrong because

"was" is wrong. fact which has no time is said, present tense is needed.

and because

the pattern

one of the nounS that ARE

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In 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics.

(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and
(B) laws, which was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and it is
(C) laws, namely, it was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and
(D) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845, it is
(E) laws that was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is


I also got the answer as A. Want to make sure whether my logic is correct.

A) Correct
B) The sentence as a whole talks about the patent system. Hence use of which(non-essential modifier) is appropriate but introduces a parallelism error with and it is
C) namely, it was an.. makes the construction awkward.
D) Removing the fluff we get:
In 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws ,an observation about electric current first made in 1845, it is now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics
Creates a run-on sentence
E) I have a doubt here. According to me, the use of that was is correct and also it maintains the parallel structure. Also that correctly modifies the one of the laws. What does first made in 1845 modify? (btw IMO it modifies observation correctly). So Why is this option wrong?

I marked this option as the answer using the following rule, the topic of discussion in the sentence is testifying of Richard Stallman, the use of that.. introduces a restrictive clause. Am I correct?

Also if one of the option would have been something as below then what would be the answer?

laws, which was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is

Can anyone or any expert help me out with this?
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It simply means that in order to prove the vulnerability of patenting system, somebody hoodwinked the public by taking a patent on one of the oldest laws of physics; even a school-going child knows this rule, but nobody including the patenting department cared to verify
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It simply means that in order to prove the vulnerability of patenting system, somebody hoodwinked the public by taking a patent on one of the oldest laws of physics; even a school-going child knows this rule, but nobody including the patenting department cared to verify


Hi Sir,
Can you please help me to clear my concept.

laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included >>> This is the modifier

I think that this is a run on as obervation made and now included requires a verb?Isn't it?
I might be asking a silly one but pls clarify with any supportive examples.

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daagh wrote:
It simply means that in order to prove the vulnerability of patenting system, somebody hoodwinked the public by taking a patent on one of the oldest laws of physics; even a school-going child knows this rule, but nobody including the patenting department cared to verify


Hi Sir,
Can you please help me to clear my concept.

laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included >>> This is the modifier

I think that this is a run on as obervation made and now included requires a verb?Isn't it?
I might be asking a silly one but pls clarify with any supportive examples.


Let's analyze the below sentence. Ignore the parenthetical elements (the non-essential information between two commas), modifiers and prepositional phrases.

in 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics

Basically, the sentence means that Richard Stallman had managed to win a patent for Kirchhoff's laws. (Richard Stallman is the subject and had managed is the verb)

Now, the last underlined part is the extra piece of information on Kirchhoff's laws.
If we analyze the underlined portion -
an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics

-which perfectly describes Kirchhoff's laws. (This being an non-essential clause will not contain a 'helping verb')
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in 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbookof elementary physics.


A laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

B laws, which was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and it is

C laws, namely, it was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

D laws, an aobservation about electric current first made in 1845, it is

E laws that was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is

Can someone please help me with understanding this part of the sentence:
hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had



From the SC Grail,

The structure for such questions is:

One of the + Noun(will always be plural) + Singular Verb(usually 'is')

It is only when the plural noun is followed by 'that/who' that the singular verb changes into plural.

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The confusion basically arises because the word 'clause' has been misunderstood. A clause is essentially a complete theme with a subject and a working verb, or often a verbal phrase that contains modifiers and objects. Thus A clause is different from a phrase, which does not have a verb;

Second, a modifier can either be a clause or even a phrase; the clause itself may be a subordinate clause or a compound clause. Its major job is to give additional info or describe somewhat more what it modifies.
The text under question is just a combination of two phrases joined by conjunction ‘and’. The coordinate conjunction can join both two nouns or two phrases or two clauses. Here, --an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics -- are both modifier phrases without verbs
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in 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbookof elementary physics.


A laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

B laws, which was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and it is

C laws, namely, it was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

D laws, an aobservation about electric current first made in 1845, it is

E laws that was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is

Can someone please help me with understanding this part of the sentence:
hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had


Daagh,

If you consider option A, shouldnt it actually be:

... a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, that is an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and ow included in virtually every textbookof elementary physics.

in absence of "that is", the phrase "an observation about..." modifies the entire phrase "a colleague of his had managed..." when it should ideally modify only "Kirchoff's laws".

I feel none of the options are perfect. What are your thoughts? Thanks.

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in 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbookof elementary physics.


A laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and

B laws, which was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and it is (GMAT Classic error : which blahh blahh and it blahh blahh - pronoun error)

C laws, namely, it was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and (Namely is an adverbial conjunction but it can not join to ICs)

D laws, an aobservation about electric current first made in 1845, it is ( IC, it is blah blah : two ICs separated by comma)

E laws that was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is ( Laws are plural thus technical subject of "is" is Richard Stallman included in textbook - non sense)

Can someone please help me with understanding this part of the sentence:
hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had


in 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics.

to test the system, - is just a modifier, and we are lucky that it is not underlined.
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(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and
(B) laws, which was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and it is
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Hi,

There is still a lot of ambiguity in my answer choice selection and haven't found a good explanation. Please help.

-Can eliminate B and E on the basis of parallelism.
-D can be removed based on structure. Original sentence has parallelism but D doesn't. Is that correct reasoning?
-Stuck between A & C - i took it out because of "namely" but that was a guess.

Any help to eliminate these answers more concretely would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Why is e incorrrect.??

cONFUSED BETWEENA & E

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Hi,

There is still a lot of ambiguity in my answer choice selection and haven't found a good explanation. Please help.

-Can eliminate B and E on the basis of parallelism.
-D can be removed based on structure. Original sentence has parallelism but D doesn't. Is that correct reasoning?
-Stuck between A & C - i took it out because of "namely" but that was a guess.

Any help to eliminate these answers more concretely would be appreciated. Thanks!



IMO, in option D, there's a pronoun that does not clearly refer to an antecedent, hence it could not be the right option.

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A should be the answer :laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and
B gives faulty parallelism
C is run on
D is run on
E has faulty modifier " first made in 1845" ---seems to suggest that "current" was " first made in 1845" also parallelism is faulty !!

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In 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics.

(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and
(B) laws, which was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and it is
(C) laws, namely, it was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and
(D) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845, it is
(E) laws that was an observation about electric current, first made in 1845, and is

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B - 'which' refers to plural 'laws', but has a singular verb 'was'
C - The sentences/clauses are not connected properly
D - Same as C
E - 'that' refers to plural 'laws', but has a singular verb 'was'

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In 1995 Richard Stallman, a well-known critic of the patent system, testified in Patent Office hearings that, to test the system, a colleague of his had managed to win a patent for one of Kirchhoff's laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and now included in virtually every textbook of elementary physics.

(A) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and
(B) laws, which was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and it is
(C) laws, namely, it was an observation about electric current first made in 1845 and
(D) laws, an observation about electric current first made in 1845, it is
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B - 'which' refers to plural 'laws', but has a singular verb 'was'
C - The sentences/clauses are not connected properly
D - Same as C
E - 'that' refers to plural 'laws', but has a singular verb 'was'

Hence A is right

Hi,
If 'which' was referring to 'laws' in option B, then in option A, the modifier - 'an observation.....' also modifies laws. If in that case - 'an observation' cannot refer to 'laws'.
What am I missing here? Please help!
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