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In a certain club, every member likes red wine or white wine or both. If the number of club members that like red wine and do not like white wine is three times the number of club members that like white wine and do not like red wine, then what is the number of club members that like both red wine and white wine?

(1) The total number of club members is 60.

(2) The number of club members that do not like white wine is three times that number of club members that do like white wine.
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In a certain club, every member likes red wine or white wine or both. If the number of club members that like red wine and do not like white wine is three times the number of club members that like white wine and do not like red wine, then what is the number of club members that like both red wine and white wine?

Since in the club every member likes red wine or white wine or both, then there are no members who like neither of the wines, so we have that:
{Total}={Red}+{White}-{Both}.

Also given that {Red}-{Both}=3*({White}-{Both}) --> {Red}=3*{White}-2*{Both}. So, {Total}=(3*{White}-2{Both})+{White}-{Both} --> {Total}=4*{White}-3*{Both}

The question is asks about {Both}=?

(1) The total number of club members is 60 --> 60=4*{White}-3*{Both}. Two unknowns. Not sufficient.

(2) The number of club members that do not like white wine is three times that number of club members that do like white wine --> {Total}-{White}=3*{White} --> {Total}=4*{White}. So, 4*{White}=4*{White}-3*{Both} --> 3*{Both}=0 --> {Both}=0. Sufficient.

Answer: B.

Hope it's clear.
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In a certain club, every member likes red wine or white wine or both. If the number of club members that like red wine and do not like white wine is three times the number of club members that like white wine and do not like red wine, then what is the number of club members that like both red wine and white wine?

Since in the club every member likes red wine or white wine or both, then there are no members who like neither of the wines, so we have that:
{Total}={Red}+{White}-{Both}.

Also given that {Red}-{Both}=3*({White}-{Both}) --> {Red}=3*{White}-2*{Both}. So, {Total}=(3*{White}-2{Both})+{White}-{Both} --> {Total}=4*{White}-3*{Both}

The question is asks about {Both}=?

(1) The total number of club members is 60 --> 60=4*{White}-3*{Both}. Two unknowns. Not sufficient.

(2) The number of club members that do not like white wine is three times that number of club members that do like white wine --> {Total}-{White}=3*{White} --> {Total}=4*{White}. So, 4*{White}=4*{White}-3*{Both} --> 3*{Both}=0 --> {Both}=0. Sufficient.

Answer: B.

Hope it's clear.



Doing the set matrix:

------------ red---- not red--- tot
white -------- ? ------ x
not white ---- 3x ------ 0
tot


2)
------------ red---- not red--- tot
white -------- ? ------ x ------ y
not white ---- 3x ----- 0 ----- 3y
tot

So, y=x. and this implies white/red = 0

Is this the right reasoning?
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Bunuel wrote:
In a certain club, every member likes red wine or white wine or both. If the number of club members that like red wine and do not like white wine is three times the number of club members that like white wine and do not like red wine, then what is the number of club members that like both red wine and white wine?

Since in the club every member likes red wine or white wine or both, then there are no members who like neither of the wines, so we have that:
{Total}={Red}+{White}-{Both}.

Also given that {Red}-{Both}=3*({White}-{Both}) --> {Red}=3*{White}-2*{Both}. So, {Total}=(3*{White}-2{Both})+{White}-{Both} --> {Total}=4*{White}-3*{Both}

The question is asks about {Both}=?

(1) The total number of club members is 60 --> 60=4*{White}-3*{Both}. Two unknowns. Not sufficient.

(2) The number of club members that do not like white wine is three times that number of club members that do like white wine --> {Total}-{White}=3*{White} --> {Total}=4*{White}. So, 4*{White}=4*{White}-3*{Both} --> 3*{Both}=0 --> {Both}=0. Sufficient.

Answer: B.

Hope it's clear.



Doing the set matrix:

------------ red---- not red--- tot
white -------- ? ------ x
not white ---- 3x ------ 0
tot


2)
------------ red---- not red--- tot
white -------- ? ------ x ------ y
not white ---- 3x ----- 0 ----- 3y
tot

So, y=x. and this implies white/red = 0

Is this the right reasoning?


Yes, your approach is correct.
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(2) The number of club members that do not like white wine is three times that number of club members that do like white wine.

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Ah, i failed to carefully read (2) where it says at the end "..number of club members that do like white wine", which is the sum of those who like Both + those who like only like White wine (as opposed to those who only like white)
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Let a --> no of ppl who like Red wine alone
c -->no of ppl who like white wine alone
b --> no of ppl who like both

from the question a=3c and we have to find b

1) a+b+c = 60.. nothing can be inferred abt b
2) a=3(b+c)

and from the question we know a=3c which implies b=0

hence 2 alone is sufficient
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In a certain club, every member likes red wine or white wine or both. If the number of club members that like red wine and do not like white wine is three times the number of club members that like white wine and do not like red wine, then what is the number of club members that like both red wine and white wine?

Since in the club every member likes red wine or white wine or both, then there are no members who like neither of the wines, so we have that:
{Total}={Red}+{White}-{Both}.

Also given that {Red}-{Both}=3*({White}-{Both}) --> {Red}=3*{White}-2*{Both}. So, {Total}=(3*{White}-2{Both})+{White}-{Both} --> {Total}=4*{White}-3*{Both}

The question is asks about {Both}=?

(1) The total number of club members is 60 --> 60=4*{White}-3*{Both}. Two unknowns. Not sufficient.

(2) The number of club members that do not like white wine is three times that number of club members that do like white wine --> {Total}-{White}=3*{White} --> {Total}=4*{White}. So, 4*{White}=4*{White}-3*{Both} --> 3*{Both}=0 --> {Both}=0. Sufficient.

Answer: B.

Hope it's clear.


Hi Bunuel,

How can we infer to this {Red}-{Both}=3*({White}-{Both}). I dont understand this part. Can you elaborate more?

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Bunuel wrote:
In a certain club, every member likes red wine or white wine or both. If the number of club members that like red wine and do not like white wine is three times the number of club members that like white wine and do not like red wine, then what is the number of club members that like both red wine and white wine?

Since in the club every member likes red wine or white wine or both, then there are no members who like neither of the wines, so we have that:
{Total}={Red}+{White}-{Both}.

Also given that {Red}-{Both}=3*({White}-{Both}) --> {Red}=3*{White}-2*{Both}. So, {Total}=(3*{White}-2{Both})+{White}-{Both} --> {Total}=4*{White}-3*{Both}

The question is asks about {Both}=?

(1) The total number of club members is 60 --> 60=4*{White}-3*{Both}. Two unknowns. Not sufficient.

(2) The number of club members that do not like white wine is three times that number of club members that do like white wine --> {Total}-{White}=3*{White} --> {Total}=4*{White}. So, 4*{White}=4*{White}-3*{Both} --> 3*{Both}=0 --> {Both}=0. Sufficient.

Answer: B.

Hope it's clear.


Hi Bunuel,

How can we infer to this {Red}-{Both}=3*({White}-{Both}). I dont understand this part. Can you elaborate more?

Thank you


The number of club members that like red wine and do not like white wine is three times the number of club members that like white wine and do not like red wine.

The number of club members that like red wine and do not like white wine = {Red} - {Both} (this gives the number of club members that like only Red wine)

The number of club members that like white wine and do not like red wine = {White} - {Both} (this gives the number of club members that like only White wine)
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In a certain club, every member likes red wine or white wine or both. If the number of club members that like red wine and do not like white wine is three times the number of club members that like white wine and do not like red wine, then what is the number of club members that like both red wine and white wine?

(1) The total number of club members is 60.

(2) The number of club members that do not like white wine is three times that number of club members that do like white wine.



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Can anyone please help me with the double matrix to solve this question?

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New post 20 Sep 2018, 19:58
I find the answer quite contradictory:

In the question, it says:
"every member likes red wine or white wine or both"

implying there must be some number for
"Like Red", "Like White" and "Like both"

Yet, we got an answer saying "Both" is 0.............

I just dont get the concept.
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