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First of all, we have a red flag in the problem: it is a %-problem and it does not tell us about any absolute value, only about % and fraction. So, if we have one DS-statement only with one absolute value, the statement is useless for solving the problem.

1) Yeah, it stands here to catch us.

2) How to determine sufficiency of the statement for a few seconds? Just try slightly to increase or decrease 75% in your mind, do you need to change a fraction? Of course, as you need to have more/less male/female ratio to decrease/increase 75%.
If it is difficult, the traditional solution:

75% = (72%*male + 80%*female)/(male + female) = (72% male/female+ 80%) / (male/female + 1) - we can find male/female fraction.

Now, male/(male + female) = 1 / (1 + female/male) - using information from the statement above, we can find the fraction of the students who are male.
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anilnandyala wrote:
in a certain class 72% of the male students & 80% of the female students have applied to college what fraction of the students in the senior college are male?
1 there are 840 students in the senior class
2 75% students in the senior class have applied to the college


(I am assuming that 'senior college' in question stem is the same as 'senior class')
This is a question of weighted averages.

Statement 1: Total students is 840 but we do not know how many of them are male and how many are female.

Statement 2: 75% of total have applied to college. 72% of males have applied and 80% of females have applied. The weighted average of 72% and 80% is known to be 75%.

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72% 75% 80%

Diff between 72 and 75 is 3 and that between 75 and 80 is 5 hence males:females ratio is 5:3.

Hence 5/8 of the students in senior class are males.
Statement 2 is sufficient. Answer is (B).
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The answer is B

If X is the FRACTION of the male students in the senior class, then 1-X is the fraction of female in class.

1) is not sufficient to solve the problem
2) from the provided information, we have:

0.72*X + 0.80*(1-X) = 0.75 <=> X = 5/8
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I got this problem wrong as usual...I HATE DS!

Anyway I checked the answer and it dawned on me that B is sufficient. However, I still cant seem to get 5/8, what am I doing wrong?
X = m + f where X is total number of students in college.
So from B) 75% of all students applied to college. Therefore we have 75% (X)
Now we know 72% male students applied to college, therefore the male number will be 72% of 75% of X
The fraction should be:
( 72% of 75% of X) / X
This gives me around 54/100 males attending college.
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Great, thank you. When I was reading through the problem I think I assumed they were asking for the number of males rather than the percentage.
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Forget conventional ways of solving math questions. In DS, Variable approach is the easiest and quickest way to find the answer without actually solving the problem. Remember equal number of variables and independent equations ensures a solution.

In a certain senior class, 72 percent of the male students and 80 percent of the female students have applied to college. What fraction of the students in the senior class are male?

1) There are 840 students in the senior class
2) 75 percent of the students in the senior class have applied to college


This question has a logic, which is frequently given on GMAT Math exam lately. The logic is there are 4 variables, and a question includes percentage and the number of percentage should be 3, which makes the con sufficient.
That is, this is a frequently given question, which is "2 by 2" question like the table below. There are 4 variables.
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The question asks percentage and the number of percentage should be 3. In the original condition, the number of percentage is 2(72%, 80%) and 75% in 2), which makes the number of percentage 3 in total. Thus, it is sufficient and the answer is B.


 Once we modify the original condition and the question according to the variable approach method 1, we can solve approximately 30% of DS questions.


 from con 1) and con 2), if one of the conditions is given by numbers and the other is given by ratio (percent,fraction), then the condition with ratio (percent,fraction) value has higher chance of being the answer.
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tejal777 wrote:
In a certain senior class, 72 percent of the male students and 80 percent of the female students have applied to college. What fraction of the students in the senior class are male?

(1) There are 840 students in the senior class
(2) 75 percent of the students in the senior class have applied to college

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Answer: Option B

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Re: In a certain senior class, 72 percent of the male students and 80 perc [#permalink]
Weighted average question but would suggest using the alligation method here avoiding algebra.

Basically --> 75-2 and 80-75 will give us a ratio of M/F of 5/8. No need to solve further % since its a DS question. Sufficient. B

A tells us total qty. Irrelevant (since we are only talking in %'s and question has asked for fractions)
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