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In a few recent cases, some teenagers with advanced programming abilities used a new programming language, FANTOD, to hack into ETS and change their own SAT scores. All of the teenagers convicted of this crime were highly skilled in programming FANTOD. In light of these cases, some colleges have discounted the official SAT scores of applicants with a knowledge of FANTOD, and have required them to take special admission tests in supervised conditions on their own campuses.
Which of following conclusions can most properly be drawn from the information above?

1.Most people who learn to program in FANTOD do so to commit some kind of hacking.

2.Colleges should rely on their own admissions tests instead of the SATs

3.Some students with knowledge of FANTOD are possibly placed at a disadvantage in the college admission process.

4.Students who learn FANTOD tend to have much lower SAT scores than do their peers.

5.Some colleges have not set any special requirements for applicants who have demonstrated knowledge of FANTOD

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1.) In a few recent cases, some teenagers with advanced programming abilities used a new programming language, FANTOD, to hack into ETS and change their own SAT scores. All of the teenagers convicted of this crime were highly skilled in programming FANTOD. In light of these cases, some colleges have discounted the official SAT scores of applicants with a knowledge of FANTOD, and have required them to take special admission tests in supervised conditions on their own campuses.
Which of following conclusions can most properly be drawn from the information above?

1.Most people who learn to program in FANTOD do so to commit some kind of hacking. - Not given. Reject.
2.Colleges should rely on their own admissions tests instead of the SATs- Not given. Reject.
3.Some students with knowledge of FANTOD are possibly placed at a disadvantage in the college admission process.- Some students have not done hacking and are suffering because of others. Correct.
4.Students who learn FANTOD tend to have much lower SAT scores than do their peers.- Not given. Reject.
5.Some colleges have not set any special requirements for applicants who have demonstrated knowledge of FANTOD - We don't know this. This is a trap answer because of " In light of these cases, some colleges have discounted the official SAT scores.." but this doesn't mean that other colleges haven't placed some weird restriction.
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The evidence says: all the ETS hackers were FANTOD programmers. What the colleges seem to be assuming is the converse: all FANTOD programmers are hackers. Of course, there is no direct evidence for this converse. Presumably there are some students who learn FANTOD in good faith and who are not hackers, but because of the assumption the colleges are making, these students are faced with extra challenges, such as having their justly achieved SAT scores disregarded and being forced to take additional admission tests.

(C) is the credited answer. Since there is no evidence for the converse statement, we have reason to believe there are FANTOD programmers who are entirely innocent of any hacking, yet those very students will have their perfectly valid SAT scores dismissed and will have to take a new test to achieve admission: this certainly would not be fun, would not be fair, and could place them at a disadvantage with respect to all the non-programming students who could just take the ordinary SATs and be done with all testing.

(A) affirms the converse statement. If we know a statement (All P are Q), we cannot automatically assume the converse (All Q are P). All squares are polygons, but not all polygons are squares. All residents of San Francisco, CA, are residents of the state of California, but not all residents of the state of California are residents of San Francisco. Deducing the converse from a statement is a classic logical fallacy.

(B) might be true, but it's much too broad. This is about the much larger issue of what is the best way for colleges to determine who should be admitted. This entire argument is focused quite specifically on the FANTOD programmers and the issues associated with them.

We have absolutely no evidence for (D). All we know is that, whatever scores those hackers achieved on the real SAT, they falsified the records to make then higher. We don't know if those scores were already high, and we certainly can draw no conclusion about all the students who know how to program in FANTOD who are not hackers. In fact, one might suspect the opposite, that folks bright enough to figure out this sophisticated programming language might be more intelligent and more successful on average, but even that we strictly can't assume. Therefore, we can't draw a clear conclusion about this.

(E) is a tricky one. We are told that some college took a certain set of special measures. We are given no information on what the other colleges did. Did they take another set of special measures? Did they not address the issue at all? We don't know. Therefore, we can't draw a clear conclusion along these lines.
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In a few recent cases, some teenagers with advanced programming abilities used a new programming language, FANTOD, to hack into ETS and change their own SAT scores. All of the teenagers convicted of this crime were highly skilled in programming FANTOD. In light of these cases, some colleges have discounted the official SAT scores of applicants with a knowledge of FANTOD, and have required them to take special admission tests in supervised conditions on their own campuses.
Which of following conclusions can most properly be drawn from the information above?

1.Most people who learn to program in FANTOD do so to commit some kind of hacking. - No. Some did that doesn't mean all of them who learn FANTOD will do so.

2.Colleges should rely on their own admissions tests instead of the SATs - That cannot be inferred as after the hacking episode is over, the college can rely on SAT. SAT test is not compromised, but the data in the test is

3.Some students with knowledge of FANTOD are possibly placed at a disadvantage in the college admission process. - Yes - Correct

4.Students who learn FANTOD tend to have much lower SAT scores than do their peers.- Cannot be inferred. It may be possible that they might have got the highest score and still they wanted to modify the scores to score cent%.

5.Some colleges have not set any special requirements for applicants who have demonstrated knowledge of FANTOD - Cannot be inferred. Nothing has been said about special requirements.
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In a few recent cases, some teenagers with advanced programming abilities used a new programming language, FANTOD, to hack into ETS and change their own SAT scores. All of the teenagers convicted of this crime were highly skilled in programming FANTOD. In light of these cases, some colleges have discounted the official SAT scores of applicants with a knowledge of FANTOD, and have required them to take special admission tests in supervised conditions on their own campuses.

Which of following conclusions can most properly be drawn from the information above?

A) Most people who learn to program in FANTOD do so to commit some kind of hacking.

B) Colleges should rely on their own admissions tests instead of the SATs

C) Some students with knowledge of FANTOD are possibly placed at a disadvantage in the college admission process.

D) Students who learn FANTOD tend to have much lower SAT scores than do their peers.

E) Some colleges have not set any special requirements for applicants who have demonstrated knowledge of FANTOD

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Some students who knew FANTOD hacked & were later convicted
But some colleges asked all who knew FANTOD to take test again.

So, the ones who knew FANTOD, but did NOT hack and were NOT convicted are unfairly asked to take the test again!
Answer Choice C points to this.
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What the question is essentially trying to say is

people with fantod knowledge hack ets and change scores. all convicts knew fantod. therefore all children with fantod knowledge shoould be tested.

what if some who do no use their knowledge for the bad. they are good people. but still they have to be tested again.
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A) Most people who learn to program in FANTOD do so to commit some kind of hacking.

This can not be inferred from the passage , may be FANTOD is an advanced programming language which ca be used for other productive use as well and is in demand in the Industry.

B) Colleges should rely on their own admissions tests instead of the SATs

This is a suggestion, we do not have any reason to doubt the reliability of SAT scores.

C) Some students with knowledge of FANTOD are possibly placed at a disadvantage in the college admission process.

Yes it is true ( Remember not all who knows FANTODs are into mischiefs but still they are treated in the same way )-

1. Some colleges have discounted the official SAT scores
2. Required them to appear for a special admission tests

D) Students who learn FANTOD tend to have much lower SAT scores than do their peers.

We have no information to compare the scores of those having knowledge of FANTOD to those who doesn't.

E) Some colleges have not set any special requirements for applicants who have demonstrated knowledge of FANTOD

This is again a suggestion , and can not flow from the stimulus presented to us.


Hence correct answer must be (C)
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Easy one.

Argument is saying Students found to be hacker knew that language. So, colleges should avoid such people take that test.

This means learning this language has been taken wrongly. So, those who learn this but donot hack will still be at a disadvantage.


1.Most people who learn to program in FANTOD do so to commit some kind of hacking. : We are not sure about this. May be they do it for Job opportunities. Incorrect.

2.Colleges should rely on their own admissions tests instead of the SATs : No, too generic.

3.Some students with knowledge of FANTOD are possibly placed at a disadvantage in the college admission process. : Correct, as per our pre thinking.

4.Students who learn FANTOD tend to have much lower SAT scores than do their peers. : Irrelevant

5.Some colleges have not set any special requirements for applicants who have demonstrated knowledge of FANTOD. Irrelevant
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In a few recent cases, some teenagers with advanced programming abilities used a new programming language, FANTOD, to hack into ETS and change their own SAT scores. All of the teenagers convicted of this crime were highly skilled in programming FANTOD. In light of these cases, some colleges have discounted the official SAT scores of applicants with a knowledge of FANTOD, and have required them to take special admission tests in supervised conditions on their own campuses.

Type - inference

1.Most people who learn to program in FANTOD do so to commit some kind of hacking. -- Incorrect -- we don't know the intent of most people ... a few people learnt and used their knowledge to hack

2.Colleges should rely on their own admissions tests instead of the SATs -- Incorrect -- too big a jump

3.Some students with knowledge of FANTOD are possibly placed at a disadvantage in the college admission process. - Correct -- there is a possibility that some innocent folks that have knowledge of FANTOD will have to take special tests

4.Students who learn FANTOD tend to have much lower SAT scores than do their peers. -- Incorrect

5.Some colleges have not set any special requirements for applicants who have demonstrated knowledge of FANTOD -- Incorrect

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