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There is a seemingly simple problem but I have got struck at a subtle point. Could someone post a solution so that I can compare it with the official explanation. Thanks


In a tin can, there is a certain number of pencils, 40 percent without erasers, and 35 percent without points. If of the pencils 1/6 have no erasers and no points, what fractional part of the pencils have both points and erasers?

A) 11/12
B) 7/12
C) 5/12
D) 1/3
E) 1/4


Form a double matrix like shown, using some smart number (any multiple of 6 with enough 0s) eg 600.

from this, fraction that we want is = 250/600 = 5/12

Ans C it is.
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Refer Venn Diagram (We require to find orange region)

Say total pencils = 100

Without erasers = 40

Without points = 35

So, without erasers & without points \(= \frac{100}{6} (Blue region)\)

Total pencils with defect

\(= 40 + 35 - \frac{100}{6}\)

\(= \frac{350}{6}\)

Total pencils without defect

\(= 100 - \frac{350}{6}\)

\(= \frac{250}{6}\)

\(Fraction = \frac{\frac{250}{6}}{100}\)

\(= \frac{5}{12}\)

Answer = C
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Re: In a tin can, there is a certain number of pencils, 40 [#permalink]
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n(aUb)=n(a)+n(b)-n(anb)
so total without erasers and points will be 0.75-1/6 which will be 7/12.
So pencils with both erasers and points will be 1-7/12 which should be 5/12
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CONCEPT:Fractions, Basics of Set Theory

SOLUTION:Given,40% + 35% =75% =¾ of the pencils either do not have erasers or do not have a point.
1/6 of the pencils have NO erasers and NO points.
Hence ¾ - 1/6 =7/12 of the pencils either do not have erasers or do not have point or both.
Thus, the fraction of the pencils that have both points and eraser= 1-7/12
=5/12 (C)

Hope this helps. :) Keep studying! :thumbsup:
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