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In an effort improve the quality of patient care, Dr. Lydia Temoscho is directing one of several clinical research projects that seek to determine the extent that psychological counseling helps to supplement the medical treatment of serious disease.

(A) seek to determine the extent that psychological counseling helps to supplement
(B) seek to determine how helpful psychological counseling is in supplementing
(C) seeks to determine how helpful psychological counseling is to supplement
(D) seeks to determine to what extent psychological counseling is a help in supplementing
(E) seeks to determine the extent that psychological counseling is helpful in supplementing
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Just posted on another thread discussing this topic.

In the above example, "one of several projects that SEEK"

Here PROJECTS is further described - and since PROJECTS is plural, you use SEEK.

BUT--if you wanted to talk about that one particular project, you would say:

"Only one of the several projects submitted was actually chosen."

Other examples:

"One of many teachers WHO WERE"

Teachers is plural so you use WERE.
"one of many teachers who were awesome"

On the other hand, if you didn't use the word WHO there, you could focus on the SINGULAR part by saying:

Only one of the 5 teachers was awesome.
or
Only 1 of the 5,000 people who applied was awarded a scholarship.


Based on the above, you should be able to immediately narrow down the answers to (A) and (B). From there, (B) just sounds more natural.

Hope that helps!
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GMATNinja , I am unable to ascertain the difference between choice A and choice B. Meaning wise both the options appear to be correct.
Is the use of "extent that" the only thing makes choice A incorrect?

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between a and b can you please tell a specific reason to eliminate a . According to me their is nothing wrong with extent that, and as far gmat sc goes, I don't think that gmat is testing this particular issue in the sentence. Also there is nothing wrong with to supplement and in supplementing , one is an infinitive and other is an idiom or phrasal verb . Can you help me with this

Sadly, I don't think that there's any meaning difference in this one. Once you're down to (A) and (B), the only real decision point is the idioms. And I hate it when this happens, because it's a real pain in the arse to learn all of the 25,000 idioms in the English language. But unfortunately, questions like this one exist on the GMAT.

The biggest problem with (A) is that it's simply incorrect to say "the extent that." "The extent to which..." would be fine, though. I'm not convinced that "helps to supplement" is 100% incorrect on the GMAT, but the GMAT does seem to like "help in verb-ing" or "aid in verb-ing", for whatever it's worth. Here's a classic example: https://gmatclub.com/forum/among-the-ob ... 82658.html

Sorry, I wish that there was a better answer here!
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Its B.
“one of several x “ takes plural verbs
Between A / B.
A : “extent that” is not correct. extent to which.
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seekmba wrote:
it is between A and B (because.....one of several clinical research projects that seek is correct)

A sounds better than B and would pick (A).

What is the OA and the correct idiom?


Are we taking about one single project that this DR is directing or all the projects. Please help :(
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+1 for B.

Dissecting the sentence,

1) There are several clinical research projects that seek to do .....
2) Dr L.T. is directing one of these several projects.

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Hey stringworm,

I got following information from Grail and hope this will clarify your doubt:

One of the 'Noun' (will always be plural) + that/who + Plural Verb



Seems a kindda idiom :-) One of the X Who/That Y

Anyways, reffer to Page# 48 of SC Grail 2nd edition for better understanding. Hope this helps !!
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I think it's "A".
C,D,E are off due to the inappropriate number agreement.

The verb "seek" refers to the word "projects" and not to the word "one".

"B" seems not right for me. I have a hard time explaining why is that. Sorry about that.

Anyway, I think that "extent that" is okay and the option "A" is correct.
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I think there's meaning issue with A as well . Option A implies that the extent is helping to supplement medical treatment.

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I don???t understand how option B can be the correct answer here. ???one of several clinical research projects??? means that you are talking about one i.e. singular. It should relate to seeks.

e.g: One of the letters is mine ... It will never be One of the letters are mine!!!
Even if i consider the bizarre ???One of the 'Noun' (will always be plural) + that/who + Plural Verb.??? Rule. If i apply on a example,
One of the ladies who is coming via this train... (One of the ladies who ???are??? coming ... is just odd)
One of the cars that exploded in the accident was mine. (One of the cars that exploded in the accident were mine.... odd)

Isolating and comparing the sentences ...i believe clears the picture.

In an effort improve the quality of patient care, Dr. Lydia Temoscho is directing one of several clinical research projects that seeks to determine the extent...
In an effort improve the quality of patient care, Dr. Lydia Temoscho is directing one of several clinical research projects that seek to determine the extent...(odd).

Kindly clear my doubt. Thanks in advance...


The pronoun "that" refers to "projects" (modifier touch rule), not "one of the projects".

There are many projects that seek xxx. Dr. Temoscho directs one of them.
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Can someone explain why "in supplementing" is correct instead of "to supplement"?




Hello brightandamen,


I would be glad to help you with your query in case you still have this doubt. :-)

The phrase help/s in doing is an idiomatic expression that is used in a structure such as: A helps in doing B.

Same is the structure of this official sentence.

However, IMHO, Choice A is NOT incorrect because of the use of to supplement. Even this phrase works in the context of the sentence. Choice A is incorrect for the incorrect usage of extent that.


Hope this helps. :-)
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In an effort improve the quality of patient care, Dr. Lydia Temoscho is directing one of several clinical research projects that seek to determine the extent that psychological counseling helps to supplement the medical treatment of serious disease.

(A) seek to determine the extent that psychological counseling helps to supplement
(B) seek to determine how helpful psychological counseling is in supplementing
(C) seeks to determine how helpful psychological counseling is to supplement
(D) seeks to determine to what extent psychological counseling is a help in supplementing
(E) seeks to determine the extent that psychological counseling is helpful in supplementing


"the extent that" in choice A and E is wrong. "the extent to which" should be put into

in choice C, "counseling is helpful to suplement" is not idiomatic.
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the subject must be fake subject for "to do" is used.
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If we remember the relative pronoun rule we can easily clear up the seek vs. seeks debate.

Rule: the verb that follows the relative pronoun agrees in number with the word that comes immediately before the relative pronoun.

In this case the plural projects comes right before the relative pronoun "that" therefore we need to use the plural seek, so we automatically know it is option A or B.

Option A is iffy because of the use of "the extent that" option B is clearer with meaning here so that is the best choice!
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One of X that verb.... Verb qualifies according to X. Here X is plural, Verb will be seek undoubtedly.
Now between A and B, here is my analysis.

(A) seek to determine the extent that psychological counseling helps to supplement
Remaining part after the extent is modifier. And sentence seems to tell that "seek to determine the extent"..... Which is ambiguous.

(B) seek to determine how helpful psychological counseling is in supplementing
Here it is clear that projects that seek to determine how helpful+ remaining part.

B is correct.
Would like to get feedback over my explanation!
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In an effort improve the quality of patient care, Dr. Lydia Temoscho is directing one of several clinical research projects that seek to determine the extent that psychological counseling helps to supplement the medical treatment of serious disease.

(A) seek to determine the extent that psychological counseling helps to supplement
(B) seek to determine how helpful psychological counseling is in supplementing
(C) seeks to determine how helpful psychological counseling is to supplement
(D) seeks to determine to what extent psychological counseling is a help in supplementing
(E) seeks to determine the extent that psychological counseling is helpful in supplementing

As pointed out earlier, SV pair here is projects-seek.

C D E out.

I want to focus a great deal on option A, explain why option A is incorrect.

Original sentence as it is

In an effort improve the quality of patient care, Dr. Lydia Temoscho is directing one of several clinical research projects that seek to determine the extent that psychological counseling helps to supplement the medical treatment of serious disease.

I have no problem with the first that,referring back to projects.

The second that after extent, what is "that" doing there?

The word “that” primarily has four different uses in English:

a) as a demonstrative adjective
The word “that” can be used as a demonstrative adjective, that is to say, as a noun-modifier that indicates precisely which noun is meant. In this role, it always immediately precedes the noun it modifies.

I enjoyed that Netflix series.

b) as a demonstrative pronoun

The word “that” can be used as a demonstrative pronoun. Like any pronoun, in this role the word “that” stands in for a noun, and of course, the noun it represents must be a proper antecedent somewhere in the sentence.

Ex:That looks like the car I used to drive. That points to car

c) as a subordinate conjunction

The word “that” can be used as a subordinate conjunction, that is, as a word that marks the beginning of a dependent clause.

Ex: The teacher is confident that her students mastered the lesson.

d) as a relative pronoun

The word “that” can be used as a relative pronoun; in other words, as a pronoun that begins a subordinate clause and is the subject of that clause.

Ex: There is no English word that rhymes with orange.

Coming back to the original sentence, the second that is definitely not acting as a subordinate conjunction or as a relative pronoun.

Is that acting as demonstrative pronoun? is there a logical antecedent to the second that? -NO

How about that referring back to extent, as a demonstrative adjective? does not make sense. replace that with extent and see how illogical sentence becomes.

In an effort improve the quality of patient care, Dr. Lydia Temoscho is directing one of several clinical research projects that seek to determine the extent extent that psychological counseling helps to supplement the medical treatment of serious disease.

Therefore option B.
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One of the .......abc that ..."verb" - the verb needs to be plural and hence only A and B remain.

Extent that is unidiomatic here . It's better to user extent to which.

Hence option B.
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New post 26 May 2010, 04:21
ill go with A

Reason: one of several clinical research projects : seek is required.

i some how feel A i better than B


My Bad just learned extend that is wrong idiomatic usage.....

So B is the answer
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here is seek referring to "one of several clinical research projects" or "several clinical research projects" ??
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In an effort improve the quality of patient care, Dr. Lydia Temoscho is directing one of several clinical research projects that seek to determine the extent that psychological counseling helps to supplement the medical treatment of serious disease.

(A) seek to determine the extent that psychological counseling helps to supplement
(B) seek to determine how helpful psychological counseling is in supplementing
(C) seeks to determine how helpful psychological counseling is to supplement
(D) seeks to determine to what extent psychological counseling is a help in supplementing
(E) seeks to determine the extent that psychological counseling is helpful in supplementing

OA= B. Why do you not use "seeks"?


Indeed a tricky question :-) 'one of sevral clinical research project' tends to feel comfortable with 'seeks'

Wonder if there is anything else be pointed for errors such as 'in supplementing' vs 'to supplement' and 'to determine the extent' vs ' to determine how helpful psychological'.
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I really think either "seek" or "seeks" is allowed here, but (as suggested by heman2402) the issue is with "supplemented to." I think "how...to supplement" is unidiomatic. @GMAT Pill instructor- Well the singular "project" could also be what has been further carried out in description. I don't see anything wrong with one project used "to determine the extent that psychological counseling helps to supplement the medical treatment of serious disease."

@heman2402, thank you!
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