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In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

A) as not an expense,but as
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In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

A) as not an expense,but as
B) as not expense,but
C) not an expense,rather
D) not as an expense,but as
E) not in terms of expense,but


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Answer will be (D)

In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings not as an expense ,but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

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In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

The structure is Not X but Y and X and Y should be parallel.

A) as not an expense,but as

If I break it down,
X as
not an expense
but as an Investment

If I remove but -> there are two "as" -> Incorrect


B) as not expense,but

We have an investment, we require an expense

C) not an expense,rather
Not X but Y is the structure

D) not as an expense,but as
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E) not in terms of expense,but
We require in terms of Investment to make it parallel but we don't have that so incorrect
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Can anyone explain why B is incorrect?

Is the missing "an" the only problem?

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In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

A) as not an expense, but as
B) as not expense, but
C) not an expense, rather
D) not as an expense, but as
E) not in terms of expense, but


Of course, happy to help and flex the grammar muscles a bit.

A) not bad. However, it's not perfect, because of the incorrect order of the words "as" and "not". For example, there is a reason why we say "not bad", and not, "bad not". The "not" is the more important word in this sentence and thus should come first chronologically, for clarity.
B) missing the 2nd "as" (in addition to the "an")
C) the mystery of the disappearing "as"s
D) correct
E) same as C


With respect to option B, in my humble opinion, I don't see a missing "as". If I replace the original sentence with what is written in option B, the sentence will look like below:

In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as [ not expense, but investment in networking] that will pay dividends.

I only see the missing "an" as the problem. Please help me in understanding that where am I going wrong mcelroytutoring

The first "as" is there, but the second "as" is not. The correct expression is "not as A, but as B." Thus, two "as"s are necessary. In addition, one does not think of something "as expense"--one thinks of something "as an expense", since "expense" is a noun and not an adjective / adverb, and thus requires "a" or "an" (indefinite article).

For example:

I think of him warmly (adverb) = correct
I find him annoying (adjective) = correct
I think of it as expensive (adjective) = correct
I think of it as expense (noun) = incorrect
I think of it as an expense (noun) = correct

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The first "as" is there, but the second "as" is not. The correct expression is "not as A, but as B" Thus, two "as"s are necessary. In addition, one does not think of something "as expense"--one thinks of something "as an expense", since "expense" is a noun and not an adjective / adverb, and thus requires "a" or "an".

For example:

I think of him warmly (adverb) = correct
I find him annoying (adjective) = correct
I think of it as expensive (adjective) = correct
I think of it as expense (noun) = incorrect
I think of it as an expense (noun) = correct


I got the a/an part very clearly but I am still not able to understand the case you have presented for "as". Please bear with my ignorance but can you tell me where should the additional "as" come in the below sentence (option B basically)

In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as [ not expense, but investment in networking] that will pay dividends.


The reason why you need two "as"s is idiomatic--it's just the way the expression works, and it creates parallel structure. Since there are two ways to think of something, there should be two "as"s.

I think of you not as a co-worker, but a friend. = incorrect
I think of you not as a co-worker, but as a friend. = correct

The same holds true for prepositions in general, when used in a similar way.

I am going not to Yale, but Harvard. = incorrect
I am going not to Yale, but to Harvard. = correct

Let's discuss it more generally, in terms of templates, and then again with specific examples:

"Subject + Verb/Predicate + Preposition + Any Objects of the Preposition" = correct (you don't have to repeat the preposition for additional objects)

For Example: "I like to go to the beach and the mountains." (Don't have to repeat "to" because the "to" is already established as the preposition of that verb.)

However,

"Subject + Verb/Predicate + Preposition + comma + BUT + no preposition..." is less correct, though people do so all the time in everyday speech. The reason why is that a punctuation/word such as ", but" serves as a possible "pivot point" in the sentence and thus requires a new preposition to confirm that the second clause is modifying the first, and not moving on to a whole other thought.

Ex: "I think of you not as an enemy, but a friend of mine is coming over soon and I need to clean the living room." I know this is a silly example and few would interpret it this way, but that's how grammar works. Any possible misinterpretation, no matter how illogical or unlikely, is the enemy of correct grammar.

Otherwise it sounds like you could possibly talking about a different friend, not extending your original thought. I know it's complicated, but it's possibly to simply memorize the rule rather than try to make sense of it, as I am doing. Sometimes the most important aspect of English grammar is understanding the importance of idioms: "that's just how you say it." That being said, this particular rule does have some logic behind it.

IN SUM:

"I think of you not as an enemy, but a friend" = incorrect but accepted
"I think of you not as an enemy, but as a friend" = better for clarity
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In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

A) as not an expense,but as
B) as not expense,but
C) not an expense,rather
D) not as an expense,but as
E) not in terms of expense,but



think of x as y is correct idiom. Also in this sentence not x but y parallelism is employed.

A.not an .. is not parallel to but as
B. not expense but as -- not parallel
C. think of x as required
D. correct
E. same as c, in terms of is wrong.
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Can anyone explain why B is incorrect?

In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

A) as not an expense,but as
B) as not expense,but
C) not an expense,rather
D) not as an expense,but as
E) not in terms of expense,but

Replacing the original sentence with (B)

In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not expense, but an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

Is the missing "an" the only problem?

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mcelroytutoring wrote:
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Can anyone explain why B is incorrect?

Is the missing "an" the only problem?

mcelroytutoring, HanoiGMATtutor: Any views?


In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

A) as not an expense, but as
B) as not expense, but
C) not an expense, rather
D) not as an expense, but as
E) not in terms of expense, but


Of course, happy to help and flex the grammar muscles a bit.

A) not bad. However, it's not perfect, because of the incorrect order of the words "as" and "not". For example, there is a reason why we say "not bad", and not, "bad not". The "not" is the more important word in this sentence and thus should come first chronologically, for clarity.
B) missing the 2nd "as" (in addition to the "an")
C) the mystery of the disappearing "as"s
D) correct
E) same as C


With respect to option B, in my humble opinion, I don't see a missing "as". If I replace the original sentence with what is written in option B, the sentence will look like below:

In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as [ not expense, but investment in networking] that will pay dividends.

I only see the missing "an" as the problem. Please help me in understanding that where am I going wrong mcelroytutoring
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In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends

Assuming that I can not recall all idioms and AS can function as a role in AS + NOUN (eg. In the drama enacted, Steve acts as a lawyer), how can I eliminate (A)

AS + expense (noun-1) and AS + investment (noun-2) are correct usage since subjects - cost and gatherings - can take role of plural nouns.



Hello Arpit/ adkikani,

Thank you for the query. :-)

Well, anyone preparing for the GMAT must at least remember such simple idioms as between X and Y, both X and Y, not only X but also Y, not X but Y, etc.

This question is all about idiomatic expression. So we must bear in mind that as not X is incorrect expression. The correct expression is not as X.


Hope this helps. :-)
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A) as not an expense,but as - Incorrect starting with as
B) as not expense,but - Incorrect
C) not an expense,rather - Incorrect idiomatic expression
D) not as an expense,but as - Correct
E) not in terms of expense,but - Incorrect parallelism

Ans: D



Why starting with as is incorrect ?



Hello teaserbae,

I would like to help you with this one. :-)

On GMAT SC, certain expressions are considered correct and certain expressions incorrect.

So the expression as not X is incorrect,. The correct expression not as X.

The best way to get around these idiomatic expressions is to learn them by heart.


Hope this helps. :-)
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In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

A) as not an expense,but as
B) as not expense,but
C) not an expense,rather
D) not as an expense,but as
E) not in terms of expense,but

The correct idiom is Not as X, but as Y. X and Y should be parallal to each other.

The only choice which shows this use is D and hence D is the correct choice.

These are some commom parallelism markers. It is always better to know them very well as it can save a lot of time on the test day. I was able to solve this question in 33 seconds only because I knew that marker.

1 More A than B.
2 As many A's as B's.
3 As much A as B.
4 Not only A, but also B.
5 The more the A, the less the B.
6 No less was A than was B.
7 A is to X as B is to Y.
8 To A is to B.
9 Not A, but rather B
10 A instead of B.
11 The same to A as to B.
12 Range from A to B.
13 Both A and B.
14 Neither A, nor B.
15 Either A, or B.
16 Mistake A for B.

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In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

A) as not an expense,but as
B) as not expense,but
C) not an expense,rather
D) not as an expense,but as
E) not in terms of expense,but


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I am ok with answer D. I have a doubt regarding use of comma. According to me, comma is not required. Kindly explain
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As discussed in this post and this long-winded video, overreacting to commas is usually a bad idea. Is that comma entirely necessary? Probably not. Does that make it wrong on the GMAT? Nah. And at the very least, it's far better to look for decision points other than comma usage on official SC questions.

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In option B, if 'an' were present in the sentence ( as not an expense but an investment ), then out of B and D, which one would be right answer.

Messing around with answer choices and asking yourself, "what if...?", is not usually a great use of your valuable study time. Answering GMAT questions as written is hard enough, so don't torture yourself by analyzing tweaked versions of the answer choices. If you understand why (B), as written, should be eliminated, then you've done your job. :)

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Can you please explain why B is not parallel?

expense and investment are same part of speech.

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First, let's review the parallelism in the correct choice (D):

Quote:
... the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings not (1) as an expense, but (2) as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

The two items in the list certainly LOOK parallel--both have the form, "as an [noun]". But to be sure, let's imagine what the sentence would look like if we only had one or the other:

    1) "... companies should think of the cost of [X] as an expense."
    2) "... companies should think of the cost of [X] as an investment in networking."

Grammatically, these are both fine. That's because both items in the parallel list ("as an expense" and "as an investment") can logically follow "cost of conventions and other similar gatherings".

Now let's check choice (B):

Quote:
... the head of the BBB emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not (1) expense, but (2) an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

The first red flags is that the two items in the list do NOT have the same form: the first is a noun without an article (a/an/the), and the second is a noun with an article ("an"). But to be sure, let's do the same test with choice (D):

    1) "... companies should think of the cost of [X] as expense."
    2) "... companies should think of the cost of as [X] an investment in networking."

The second one is okay, but notice that the first option doesn't work because it's missing an article for "expense"! Choice (D) avoids that problem by putting an article ("an") in front of each item in the parallel list. That makes (D) a better choice.

And if you want a long-winded on special parallelism triggers (both/and, either/or, not/but), here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXRz0RBLNus.

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In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

A) as not an expense,but as
B) as not expense,but
C) not an expense,rather
D) not as an expense,but as
E) not in terms of expense,but


'Think of X as' is the right idiom. C and E are out.

'Not x but y' must maintain parallelism.

not as an expense, but as an investment. D is the right answer
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In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

A) as not an expense,but as
B) as not expense,but
C) not an expense,rather
D) not as an expense,but as
E) not in terms of expense,but



Correct Idiom: Not X but Y
Where X must be parallel to Y.

A-- Not (an expense) but (as) -- Not parallel
B-- Not (expense) but an investment -- Not parallel
C-- Not (an expense), rather -- Correct idiom is Not X, but rather Y

D-- Not (as an expense), but (as an expense) -- Parallel
E-- Not (in terms of expense), but (an investment) -- Not parallel
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The official sentence's only issue is the position of "not" relative to "as". Answer choice D correctly flips these words.
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Can anyone explain why B is incorrect?

Is the missing "an" the only problem?

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In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as not an expense, but as an investment in networking that will pay dividends.

A) as not an expense, but as
B) as not expense, but
C) not an expense, rather
D) not as an expense, but as
E) not in terms of expense, but


Of course, happy to help and flex the grammar muscles a bit.

A) not bad. However, it's not perfect, because of the incorrect order of the words "as" and "not". For example, there is a reason why we say "not bad", and not, "bad not". The "not" is the more important word in this sentence and thus should come first, for clarity.
B) missing the 2nd "as" (in addition to the "an")
C) the mystery of the disappearing "as"s
D) correct
E) same as C

Originally posted by mcelroytutoring on 24 Jul 2016, 19:10.
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mcelroytutoring wrote:

The first "as" is there, but the second "as" is not. The correct expression is "not as A, but as B" Thus, two "as"s are necessary. In addition, one does not think of something "as expense"--one thinks of something "as an expense", since "expense" is a noun and not an adjective / adverb, and thus requires "a" or "an".

For example:

I think of him warmly (adverb) = correct
I find him annoying (adjective) = correct
I think of it as expensive (adjective) = correct
I think of it as expense (noun) = incorrect
I think of it as an expense (noun) = correct


I got the a/an part very clearly but I am still not able to understand the case you have presented for "as". Please bear with my ignorance but can you tell me where should the additional "as" come in the below sentence (option B basically)

In her presentation, the head of the Better Business Bureau emphasized that companies should think of the cost of conventions and other similar gatherings as [ not expense, but investment in networking] that will pay dividends.
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