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"an overwhelming proportion of women work"
I think proportion is singular........like %age of something

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"an overwhelming proportion of women work"
I think proportion is singular........like %age of something


For you to know....proportion can be singular/plural depending upon the intent and construction.
Here are few examples that will make it clear..

the proportion of women working in Europe has increased --> it's the actual proportion that has increased (proportion is singular here)

a large proportion of the women work in Europe --> the women themselves work (a proportion can't work) So plural

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New post 12 Jul 2010, 07:59
Would also go with C as other opton have some or other erors mentioned
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1. Subject verb agreement : 'Proportion of women' PLURAL correct- verb 'work' is correct
2. How about AS and LIKE : WHich one is correct here? Should go with 'AS' because we are comparing clauses
3. Many or Many of them : which one is correct ? many of them refer to the proprotion of women

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Hi Guys,

First of all, it is unlikely that this is a real GMAT question. A real question would not have used "portion of women;" the correct answer would use "number of women". "Portion" or "amount" can be used for non-count or singular nouns ("portion of the population," "amount of money," BUT "number of people").

So let's leave the subject-verb agreement issue aside and focus on the other aspects of the sentence that you've correctly identified:


In Hungary,as in much of eastern Europe,an overwhelming propotion of women work,many of which are in middle management and light industry.

A. as in much of eastern Europe,an overwhelming propotion of women work,many of which are

To refere to people, use "who" or "whom", never "which" or "that".

B. as with much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming propotion of women works, many

Notice that the prepositional phrase, "with much of Eastern Europe," does not accurately describe anything here. There is nothing in the sentence that can be described as being "with Europe."

TIP: The GMAT SC from time to time likes to user "with..." to create an inaccurate modifier.


INCORRECT: The student with the highest grade was rewarded.
CORRECT: The student who received the highest grade was rewarded.

C. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming propotion of women work,many of them

First, the comparison of the two prepositional phrases ("in Hungary" and "in ... Europe") is logical and properly uses the word "as".

Second, "many of them in in middle management and light industry," is a structure called an absolute phrase.

The absoluate phrase is just a noun+description (NO VERB!) This is not a clause and not a modifier, but rather just a form of additional info.


Ex. Sue drove down the street, the wind (noun) in her hair (description).

So "many of them (women) in the ..." is just a way of adding info to the already complete clause, "an overwhelming propostion/number of women work/s".


D. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming propotion of women works,and many are

NOTE: "Like" can be used to compare only two nouns, not two descriptions or clauses.

So "like... Europe" would have worked if the sentence had begun with "Hungary," not "In Hungary."


E. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming propotion of women works,many are

Same problem as D.

Also, "many are in..." is a full independent clause (subject + verb that could be a sentence on its own). Two independent clauses cannot be attached with just a comma!

INCORRECT: I am hungry, I will eat.
CORRECT: I am hungry [; / ,and / ,so...] I will eat.

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In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in middle management and light industry.
A. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in
B. as with much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, many in
C. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in.
D. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, and many are.
E. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many are in.


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I got it wrong on the GMAT prep.. the answer is C..
Cos it compares Hungary and much of Europe logically & it should be many of them...
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I have noticed this pattern between
many of which / many of them, prefer the latter. If you want to blindly tick the answer and move on :-)

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New post 21 Jul 2010, 08:11
can someone please clear this...

somewhere i have read that whenever "as" is used then it must be followed by a conjugated verb...however if we use "like" then it should not be

anyone validate this rule..also refer the problem mentioned in this post

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can someone please clear this...

somewhere i have read that whenever "as" is used then it must be followed by a conjugated verb...however if we use "like" then it should not be

anyone validate this rule..also refer the problem mentioned in this post



Comparison "As" can compare clauses or prepositions according to MGMAT. Furthermore all comparisons must be parallel and must make sense.

In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in middle management and light industry.

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Could you please explain this :

INCORRECT: The student with the highest grade was rewarded.
CORRECT: The student who received the highest grade was rewarded.

WHy Incorrect one is incorrect ? How to make a rule out of this so that it could be used wherever we see tricky "with" .

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[quote="papillon86"]In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in middle management and light industry.
A. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in
B. as with much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, many in
C. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in.
D. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, and many are.
E. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many are in.


I believe this is one of the rare cases in which both "like" and "as" can be used b/c we are not dealing with the caluses or we are dealing with nouns. So, we cannot eliminate any answers based on the like vs. ass rules, so it has to be something else. Parallelism, Bingo! Leave A and C, and thrash the rest. "Many of which" is incorrect, many of whom is correct. Pick C.
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Throw the following options out:
- the ones that use "which"
- the ones that use "like"

Leaves us with C as the right one

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saqibbaig wrote:
"an overwhelming proportion of women work"
I think proportion is singular........like %age of something


For you to know....proportion can be singular/plural depending upon the intent and construction.
Here are few examples that will make it clear..

the proportion of women working in Europe has increased --> it's the actual proportion that has increased (proportion is singular here)

a large proportion of the women work in Europe --> the women themselves work (a proportion can't work) So plural

Hope it helps!!


the same story about THE NUMBER OF Vs. A NUMBER OF....
Am I right?

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Is C makes run-on error? is it better to use "many of whom" (a relative pronoun) instead of "many of them"?
Can "work" function as noun so "many of which" modifies for "work"?
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IMO this is C. And this is GMAT question. I believe this question is from Gmat10 version.
First of all in is required, only A and C contains "IN". You cannot use which pronoun for humans thus C wins. If it were for me, I would not bother to write a sentence like this.

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I went with C ..........but in some other thread i have seen the question and they say OA .is A .......but can't believe ut ....


Please visit the below link.. OA is C
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/in- ... t5864.html
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In Hungary,as in much of eastern Europe,an overwhelming propotion of women work,many of which are in middle management and light industry.

1. as in much of eastern Europe,an overwhelming propotion of women work,many of which are
2. as with mych of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming propotion of women works, many
3. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming propotion of women work,many of them
4. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming propotion of women works,and many are
5. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming propotion of women works,many are


First, like much of Eastern Europe is not paralleled with "In Hungary". Therefore, D and E are out.

As with much of Eastern Europe also wrong in term of meaning and paralleled. => Choice B is out.

"In Hungary" should be paralleled with "AS in ...". Hence, choice A and C are in finalist.

In choice A, "many of which" refers to "women" is wrong. So, we keep choice C as the final answer. That's correct
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IMO C too, I don't think things like absolute phrases make any difference, since in SC, you just choose the most appropriate one compared to other options, even though all of the options are not the best.

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Can someone provide a detailed explanation on this one. Thanks in advance!


as the sentence is starting with IN HUNGARY...
IN = PREPOSITION...
now LIKE is never followed by prepositional phrase...so we cannot use LIKE ...
So we can eliminate option containing LIKE.
more over in options containing LIKE ..much of is followed by like....hence the comparison is also not correct.

according to parallel structure necessity..we need:
in hungary, AS IN....

basing this we can eliminate option B.
MOREOVER option B HAS singular verb WORKS for plural subject ,,hence incorrect.

OPTION A everything correct except...use oF WHICH.
now we know we can never USE which /that for human beings....
so MANY OF WHICH...this is wrong..

hence left with OPTION C

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IS proportion singular or plural in this sentence? can someone comment between work vs works!
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"an overwhelming proportion" --> Singular, this phrase refers to a particular proportion that is also overwhelming. Works should go with this phrase
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