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I have a question regarding Subject-Verb in the question.

An overwhelming proportion of women work (or workS)?

Should the verb follow "A proportion" or "Women"?

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I have a question regarding Subject-Verb in the question.

An overwhelming proportion of women work (or workS)?

Should the verb follow "A proportion" or "Women"?


The "proportion" cannot work, hence "women" is what needs to be considered to choose between the sing. works and plu. work.
Women = Plural. Therefore, women work.

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I have a question regarding Subject-Verb in the question.

An overwhelming proportion of women work (or workS)?

Should the verb follow "A proportion" or "Women"?

Indeed this is very confusing. I looked in Official guide, and saw an example where "proportion" is used as "singular": Question 43 in official guide.

Are there any rules?

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An overwhelming proportion of women work (or workS)?


the correct sentence :An overwhelming proportion of women work
logic : its the women who work not the proportion !!

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An overwhelming proportion of women work (or workS)?


the correct sentence :An overwhelming proportion of women work
logic : its the women who work not the proportion !!


It absolutely does not matter whether the women work or the proportion work(s)
"proportion" is singular and therefore requires "s" at the end of the verb.

If the qustion read - "Most women work" then its fine but as long as we have phrases such as "The majority of", "A huge part of", "A proportion of" " The number of", we those are considered singular according to the GMAT.

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Ivan91 wrote:It absolutely does not matter whether the women work or the proportion work(s)
"proportion" is singular and therefore requires "s" at the end of the verb.

If the qustion read - "Most women work" then its fine but as long as we have phrases such as "The majority of", "A huge part of", "A proportion of" " The number of", we those are considered singular according to the GMAT.


this information is not correct !!
case in point :this gmat sentence is 100 % correct : In Hungary,as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in.
if u follow ur logic then the verb should have been "works" and not "work"
also "the number of " is always singular but same does not apply to "A proportion of" .

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Indeed this is very confusing. I looked in Official guide, and saw an example where "proportion" is used as "singular": Question 43 in official guide.


quote the problem and i will resolve ur confusion .

Despite the increasing number of women graduating from law school and passing bar examinations, the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women has not risen comparably

The above sentence says: the proportion has.

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Despite the increasing number of women graduating from law school and passing bar examinations, the proportion of judges and partners at major law firms who are women has not risen comparably


it is the proportion that has increased so we need "has" and not "have"

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Brilliant! The highlighted portion is the key to success in this question! :)

ritula wrote:
The key point in this question is to recognise wether to use like or as. This can be done by rewriting the statement as:
An overwhelming proportion of women work in Hungary,as in much of Eastern Europe, many of which are in middle management and light industry.

Since action is being compared so as would be used instead of like. Hence D and E are eliminated. B is wrong bcos it violates parallelism by using "with" instead of "in". Now b/w A and C, As wrong bcos of usage of "which" (distosts the meaning). C is the best choice

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n Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in middle management and light industry.

a) as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in
b) as with much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, many in
c) as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in
d) like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, and many are
e) like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many are in

Please explain.


"An overwhelming proportion of" + noun go with plural, "the proportion " goes with singular. " As" should be used here. Left with choice A and C. Since "many of..." sentence should be a modifier, the modifying sentence cannot contain verb. Also "which" cannot modify "women". C is the answer.
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n Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in middle management and light industry.

a) as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in
b) as with much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, many in
c) as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in
d) like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, and many are
e) like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many are in

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"An overwhelming proportion of" + noun go with plural, "the proportion " goes with singular. " As" should be used here. Left with choice A and C. Since "many of..." sentence should be a modifier, the modifying sentence cannot contain verb. Also "which" cannot modify "women". C is the answer.


Agreed. Which modifies proportion, obviously incorrect

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In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in middle management and light industry.

A. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of which are in
B. as with much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, many in
C. as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in
D. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women works, and many are
E. like much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many are in

Subject Verb Agreement:
In Option B and D, a proportion of women -> is plural so work should be used.

Comparison issue.

We are comparing the following sentence:
an overwhelming proportion of women work in Hungary as an overwhelming proportion of women work in much of eastern Europe
Now why not like

an overwhelming proportion of women work in Hungary like much of eastern Europe
Like is used for the comparing nouns so that is correct.

If we use like, there can be two inferences drawn:
an overwhelming proportion of women work in Hungary as an overwhelming proportion of women work in much of eastern Europe -> Intended meaning
an overwhelming proportion of women work in Hungary as Hungary work in much of eastern Europe -> which is illogical

Hence we need to use as and we need to repeat "in" so that comparison is proper.

hence Option D and E are out

With usage in B)
Normally in GMAT either with is used as part of idiom or used to modify the noun.
For example "association with" is an idiom
or "Starfish, with anywhere from five to eight arms, have a strong regenerative ability"
here with is modifying the noun - "Starfish"

But in Option B) I need a comparison marker. So Option B) is wrong

Between A) and C)
in A) many of which -> which refers to proportion and we require many of them -> to refer to the actual women.

In C) the reference (many of them) correctly refers to the women and hence C) is the correct answer

Side note:
Why we don't have the option C) as
as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them are in

(many of them) is a noun and if we have a verb - are , that makes the sentence as Independent clause and this cannot be joined with the previous independent clause.
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In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in middle management and light industry.

Isn't it a run-on sentece? What links "In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work" with "many of them in middle management and light industry.". I thought that it should have a semicolon instead of a comma.

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In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work, many of them in middle management and light industry.

Isn't it a run-on sentece? What links "In Hungary, as in much of Eastern Europe, an overwhelming proportion of women work" with "many of them in middle management and light industry.". I thought that it should have a semicolon instead of a comma.


"Many of them in middle management" -> can you find a verb.
If there is no verb, then it can never be a independent clause and if this is not an independent clause, it should be a dependent clause (here it is a modifier) and hence there is no run on sentence.

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"Many of them in middle management" -> can you find a verb.
If there is no verb, then it can never be a independent clause and if this is not an independent clause, it should be a dependent clause (here it is a modifier) and hence there is no run on sentence.

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I interpreted it as an appositive! Is it correct?


Yes, it is an appositive. It is of the form Noun + Modifier. "Many of them" is modifying women in the previous clause.
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first split --> like vs as
like --> noun-to-noun comparison
as --> clause-to-clause comparisons (compare events and actions)
Here we are comparing proportion of women who work. Hence use "as"
Eliminate --> D, E

Second split --> use of which
which is never used to refer to a person.
Eliminate --> A

Third split --> Use of quantity expression
"overwhelming proportion of" will take plural form in this case.
Eliminate --> B

Answer --> C

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I am not able to understand why like is incorrect here ??
We are comparing hungry and eastern europe ?
Please help between C and D.
I marked D as answer which is incorrect
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I understood that "proportion of women" is plural because it is women who work not the proportion. However, if someone can explain to me the use of "them" to refer to "women" because "women" is a part of prepositional phrase "of women".

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I understood that "proportion of women" is plural because it is women who work not the proportion. However, if someone can explain to me the use of "them" to refer to "women" because "women" is a part of prepositional phrase "of women".

Hi Gaurav, how did you get the impression that a pronoun cannot refer to a noun that is a part of prepositional phrase?
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There seems to be a SV-Agreement error in C, because the word "proportion" is singular. Hence it shall be followed by the verb "works".

Is it a type of question where the correct answer (C) is not perfect and has some grammatical flaws, but is still considered as the best choice in comparison to other options?
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