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# In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje,

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In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.

(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

What tense of the verb is "have had" can someone give me some examples on when to use this

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24 Apr 2006, 13:27
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"have had " shows here that having visions happened before their claim.

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24 Apr 2006, 17:29
Isnt it C here?

Mary isnt the object in the independent clause? So shouldnt the dependent caluse be connected by a objective pronoun whom?

I am confused

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In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.

(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

What tense of the verb is "have had" can someone give me some examples on when to use this

we need "who" to modify a subject of the verb "has continued" --> A and D stay.
We also need "have had" to indicate some action which happened before another action in past.

For the above two reasons, A is the correct one.

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25 Apr 2006, 09:36
Somewhere on GMATClub I read that...whenever confused b/w who and whom...try replacing who...with the subject..she/he...
and whom by her/his....
See which one sounds right...and it will stand.
Can someone confirm whether I have interpreted it correctly.Also if someone knows whihc post/ sticky it was ..plz post the URL.

In this example....visions of Virgin Mary, who (they say) has continued.....
1)visions of Virgin Mary, she (they say) has continued.....

2)visions of Virgin Mary, her (they say) has continued.....

1 is better than 2...and hence it will be who..

Please correct me if I was wrong in interpreting the rule..and does it apply in all conditions?

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25 Apr 2006, 09:48
itishaj wrote:
Somewhere on GMATClub I read that...whenever confused b/w who and whom...try replacing who...with the subject..she/he...
and whom by her/his....
See which one sounds right...and it will stand.
Can someone confirm whether I have interpreted it correctly.Also if someone knows whihc post/ sticky it was ..plz post the URL.

In this example....visions of Virgin Mary, who (they say) has continued.....
1)visions of Virgin Mary, she (they say) has continued.....

2)visions of Virgin Mary, her (they say) has continued.....

1 is better than 2...and hence it will be who..

Please correct me if I was wrong in interpreting the rule..and does it apply in all conditions?

It's a rule of thumb so you don't need to worry about applying it

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27 Apr 2006, 04:34
Who is incorrect as who should be used for the subject(that is the teenagers). Also claim to have visions is past particple form.

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27 Apr 2006, 04:43
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Who is incorrect as who should be used for the subject(that is the teenagers). Also claim to have visions is past particple form.

But "who" and "whom" modify the closest noun to them --> in this case, both of them modify "Virgin Mary" .

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27 Apr 2006, 05:58
myc2004 wrote:
In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.

(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
What tense of the verb is "have had" can someone give me some examples on when to use this

A too...........

who clearly modify/refer to virgin marry. lets see how it looks like.

(A) In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who (they say) has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.

(C) In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom (they say) has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.

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29 Apr 2006, 09:03
OA is A

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29 Apr 2006, 22:48
myc2004 wrote:
In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.

(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

What tense of the verb is "have had" can someone give me some examples on when to use this

It should be who rather than whom. Thus we can eliminate B/C/E.
Claimed is already in the past so you don't need "Have claimed", "have claimed becomes present perfect as if they ae still claiming which is not the case. Thus A.

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