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In setting environmental standards for industry and others to meet, it is inadvisable to require the best results that state-of-the-art technology can achieve. Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants, but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved. So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.

The argument given concerning the reasonable way to set standards presupposes that

A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities
B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants
C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry
D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment
E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous

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In setting environmental standards for industry and others to meet, it is inadvisable to require the best results that state-of-the-art technology can achieve. Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants, but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved. So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.

The argument given concerning the reasonable way to set standards presupposes that

A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities
B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants
C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry
D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment
E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous

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Dear AbdurRakib,

I'm happy to respond. This is a subtle and difficult question, a very good question.

First, let's consider the prompt. Suppose we are looking at some contaminant---call it X. We want to most of the X in, say, drinking water. A cleansing system that eliminates down to one part-per-thousand might leave some X at the order of parts-per-million (ppm). A more expensive system might detect and eliminate X down to 1 ppm might leave residue amounts at the order of a few parts-per-billion (ppb). You can imagine extending this process to parts-per-trillion, etc., all the time getting more and more expensive. The very best system might be so efficient that not one molecule of X is left, but it might cost \$100 billion. The argument is saying: we don't necessarily need the most rigorous and most expensive system: we have to assess risk, because maybe one of the less rigorous systems would be perfectly fine.

To make the situation more clear, I will bring in a couple examples from my own knowledge. A chemical such as bleach or lye is toxic in high concentrations, but at the order of 1 part-per-thousand, it is 100% harmless. It would be complete overkill and total waste money to purifying drinking water of these chemicals beyond that level. By contrast, the neurotoxins, such as lead, are really bad: lead causes measurable neurological damage at 1 ppb, so the standards for lead are much much more stringent than they are for most other chemicals. This is outside knowledge, but it might help to give you a real world sense of the context of the problem.

OK, now let's look at the answers. What is assumed by the argument? This is essentially an assumption question. We can use the Negation Test.

A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities
Not necessarily. The argument would still be valid even if industry were outdoing any standards that had been set. They may be overachieving, say, purifying down to less than 1 ppb when the official standard is 1 ppm, but it still would be unreasonable to require them to do the very best that current technology could do. We can negate this, and the argument is fine. This is not an assumption.

B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants
Interesting. Suppose there were no ways to assess those risk. Suppose we had no idea whether 1 part-per-thousand or 1 ppm or 1 ppb would be safe: then would we have to use the highest possible standard, the most technologically advanced method of cleansing, regardless of the cost. This would shatter the argument. The argument depends on the fact that risk for different chemicals at different concentrations are already well known. This is a promising answer.

C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry
Some contaminate might occur naturally, or some might come from household processes or from vehicle exhaust. This could be (and is) completely false, and it doesn't change the requirement on industry. This is not an assumption.

D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment
Negate this. Suppose it were quite expensive to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment. What does this mean for the argument? It's unclear. Suppose it costs an industry \$1 million to remove 90% of item X. What would it cost to use the best technology, to eliminate the X completely? Maybe just another million, or maybe \$100 billion. It could still be unreasonable to require the most advanced technology, so the argument still works. This is not an assumption.

E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous
Negate this. Suppose minute amounts of anything are completely safe. Then, there would be no absolutely no reason to use the most advanced technology, to eliminate even microscopic quantities, because these microscopic quantities are perfectly safe. Negating this strengthens the argument, so this choice wildly fails the negation test. This is not an assumption.

The best answer is the OA, (B).

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06 Jul 2016, 16:33
The conclusion is 'it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved' which is particularly strong.

It assumes that it is possible to account for all the risks and answer choice B does just the job. All the other answer choices either take it too far or just irrelevant to what the argument is.
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Type: Presuppose = Assumption
P1: In setting environmental standards for industry and others to meet, it is inadvisable to require the best results that state-of-the-art technology can achieve.
P2: Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants, but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved.
Conc: So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.

Pre-think:
Diagram:
{Current tech able to detect and eliminate contaminant, but Cost > Benefit ---> Reasonable to take current and future risk}

Assume skill and/ or will (MGMAT)

Missing gap
Conc: nothing mention about KEYWORD: contaminant, Cost > Benefit

Use negation to confirm ans

The argument given concerning the reasonable way to set standards presupposes that

A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities
[industry currently does not necessarily meet the standard that have been set by environmental authorities - No impact]
B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants
[there are no effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants - current and future risks cannot be determined, thus weaken]
C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry
[the only contaminants worth measuring are not generated by industry - No impact - even if not generated by industry current risks and future risks can be determined]
D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment
[it is costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment - No impact on whether current and future risks can be determined]
E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous
[minute amounts of some contaminants cannot be poisonous - argument on hand needs to take into consideration current and future risks]

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In setting environmental standards for industry and others to meet, it is inadvisable to require the best results that state-of-the-art technology can achieve. Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants, but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved. So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.

The argument given concerning the reasonable way to set standards presupposes that

A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities
B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants
C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry
D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment
E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous

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Premise: 1. In setting environmental standards for industry and others to meet, it is inadvisable to require the best results that state-of-the-art technology can achieve.
2. Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants, but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved. Conclusion: 1. So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.

Question type : Assumption
Prephase: Ans should refer to risks/ reasonable cost & standards. Particularly the phrase "taking into account all of the current and future risks involved", gives a hint that - is the elimination at a higher cost necessary.

Took me more than 2mins to solve, but the ans does not stand out. I used elimination method which eventually left Ans B. a second look at (B) made things fall in place.
B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants - Allowing Contamination within specific limits.

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In setting environmental standards for industry and others to meet, it is inadvisable to require the best results that state-of-the-art technology can achieve. Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants, but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved. So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.

The argument given concerning the reasonable way to set standards presupposes that

A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities
B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants
C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry
D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment
E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous

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Conclusion :- it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved

Basically, it says that instead of measuring all the pollutants (for example), its good to know the risks and then control contaminants.

There are certain below assumptions:-
1) Risks can be measured.
2) Setting standards for contaminants is not necessarily controlling risks
3) Risks can be controlled even by not setting strict standards

A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities. We don't know if standards are currently met. We ar concerend about future risks.
B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants. This is one of the assumptions we derived.
C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry. It does'nt matter. It can be generated by others also. We are talking about industries only.
D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment. We know that it is costly to remove contaminants from enviornment. We don't know if preventing the entry is costly or not.
E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous. We want to know about risks and not really poisoning effect.
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Conclusion: standards should be set by considering current and future risks involved...

A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities::: If the industry meets or doesnot meet the requirement the above conclusion still holds
B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants: If there are ways to account the risks then the conclusion hold and in case there are no ways then conclusion stands void
C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry: Here we are talking of Industry and thats written in the stem of the question but we cannot generalize that only industry generates the contaminant
D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment: Prevention is costly or not is not discussed in Stem of the question. we are talking of risk analysis to be made while setting standards to remove the contaminants.
E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous: risk / Benefits of using a standard needs to be evaluated before implementing it, so effects need not to be considered.
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Can someone elaborate on why E is wrong?

Conclusion : it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved

If we're assuming that even minute amounts of contaminants can be poisonous then isn't that the basis for needing to establish any type of standards?

I was down between B and E.

Is E wrong because of the word "some". If it didn't have that and said minute amounts of contaminats can be posionous would the answer change?
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Can someone elaborate on why E is wrong?

Conclusion : it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved

If we're assuming that even minute amounts of contaminants can be poisonous then isn't that the basis for needing to establish any type of standards?

I was down between B and E.

Is E wrong because of the word "some". If it didn't have that and said minute amounts of contaminats can be posionous would the answer change?

It is generally misleading to consider the conclusion in isolation. Always relate the conclusion with the premise and then find out the missing link (i.e., the assumption).

When the conclusion is considered in isolation then E can be an assumption, but selecting E would be wrong because it does not fill the gap between the premise and the conclusion.

Premise: Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants, but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved.

Conclusion: So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.

Rather than filling in a gap between premise and conclusion, option E points at a weakness in the premise-conclusion link - the gist of the argument is that since the cost for detecting minute amounts is high, it is prudent to set standards as per risk (i.e. not to set very stringent standards unnecessarily). Option E is a weakener for this argument.
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loved this questions!

premise: current techs do a lot, but the cost sometimes is not reasonable verusus improvement
conclusion: it is reasonable to set standarts involving risks of present and future

B fits perfectly. To be sure, let's negate it: there are no effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants. This does break the argument, fits!
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Although the answer choice 'B' is correct. I would request folks to share their thoughts on how to answer these kind of questions. Presupposes... I didn't get it at all.
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18 Aug 2017, 09:42
AnubhavK wrote:
Although the answer choice 'B' is correct. I would request folks to share their thoughts on how to answer these kind of questions. Presupposes... I didn't get it at all.

Dear AnubhavK,

I'm happy to respond. :-)

For GMAT CR purposes, "presupposes" is the same as "assumes." This is another way of asking an assumption question. See:
Assumptions and the Negation Test on the GMAT
GMAT Critical Reasoning: More on Assumption Questions

The strategies discussed in those blogs will be helpful to some extent. What you really need to do to get comfortable with GMAT CR questions is to develop a habit of reading. Why do you think that a 1/3 of the GMAT Verbal questions are about arguments? Any manager or executive has to hear many arguments every single day. Fundamentally, every sales pitch is an argument. A successful executive is one who can learn a great deal from the arguments he hears, discern the flaws and what not to believe, and understand when an argument indicates that he has to change course. You get better by reading arguments and thinking about them. If you read the business news, you will find tons of arguments. Read these arguments and reflect on them. See:
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B. Conclusion says It would be reasonable to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risk so it presupposes that there are effective ways to take into account all the relevant risks

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B. Conclusion says It would be reasonable to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risk so it presupposes that there are effective ways to take into account all the relevant risks

What do you make of " allowing different levels of contaminants"?

Nowhere, the arguments says anything about type or level of contaminants. Moreover, last line says environmental standards should be set by considering all present and future risks, it doesn't specify risks associated with contaminants. There may be a dozen other kinds of risks involved while setting environmental standards.

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In setting environmental standards for industry and others to meet, it is inadvisable to require the best results that state-of-the-art technology can achieve. Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants, but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved. So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.

The argument given concerning the reasonable way to set standards presupposes that

A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities -This information is already given in the passage.
B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants -Correct. The conclusion talks about the setting of standards by taking into account risks. Thus if there are ways to mitigate the risk, then the conclusion stands.
C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry -too extreme
D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment -The argument is about the standards
E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous -just a fact
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I arrived at the right answer by elimination. Here, none of the other options was close. The argument is recommending that it's ok to let amounts of contaminants in the environment, provided that risk-assessment allows us to do that.

So, the pre-supposition is that it is possible to correlate the risk levels with different levels of contaminants.
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Question Stem:-The argument given concerning the reasonable way to set standards presupposes that:- (assumption question)

Stimulus:-
1) In setting environmental standards for industry and others to meet, -------> some advice while setting environmental standards
2) it is inadvisable to require the best results that state-of-the-art technology can achieve. ----------> for best results don't use state-of-the-art technology
3) Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants, -----------> current technology - is superb - detects and eliminates minute amounts of contaminants.
4) but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved. ---------> "BUT"----(according to author) for achieving the best results costs outweigh benefits
5) So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.-------> take into account ALL risks while setting standards!!

Analysis------->We are talking about "setting environmental standards for industry and others to meet", the author has chosen words like "inadvisable", "Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants", "cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved" - Hence take into account all risks. Is it possible to take into account all risks, if yes then don't spend so much if its not possible to take into account all risks then the conclusion will fail.

Eliminate wrong options and select right option:-

A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities---------> This seems to be out of scope. Does not speak of taking into account all the risks

B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants--------->Perfect, cannot be put in some simpler words than this - ---------> It reproduces what we are looking for i.e. taking into account all the risks is possible through effective ways. (just read the remaining options if there is a better option)

C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry---------> So what? Again this point is silent on what we are looking for.

D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment---------> The argument is about detecting and eliminating even extremely minute amounts of contaminants. Does not speak of taking into account all the risks

E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous--------->Out of scope!!!

Option B is the best answer choice here!!
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In setting environmental standards for industry and others to meet, it is inadvisable to require the best results that state-of-the-art technology can achieve. Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants, but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved. So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.

The argument given concerning the reasonable way to set standards presupposes that

A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities
B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants
C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry
D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment
E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous

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Interesting and logical. B is the only option that talks about risks - it is the main reason to be the right answer.
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In setting environmental standards for industry and others to meet, it is inadvisable to require the best results that state-of-the-art technology can achieve. Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants, but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved. So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.
Stimulus Analysis:
1. The author mentions that state-of-the-art technology available today may achieve exceptional results today, but he rather presents his opinion saying that it is INADVISABLE to require best results.
2. Current technology can eliminate even minute contaminants, but that cost to do that outweighs its benefits.
Hence the conclusion given by the author: So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.
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The argument given concerning the reasonable way to set standards presupposes that
The question basically asks the assumption that the author operates with while providing that conclusion.

Quote:
A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities
Great if industries do/ doesn't matter to the argument if they don't. As the conclusion still stands stating that "set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved".
So the industries shall start operating according to the standards set by the authorities. I wish there were such a perfect world.
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B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants

When the author says that "set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved" I think he assumes B. Let's try to negate this answer option:
there are NO effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants.
If there aren't effective ways to take into account all the risks, then how can the conclusion drawn by the author stand i.e. we would not be able to account for all the possible risks involved.
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C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry
ONLY needs to jump off here in the answer option, which makes it an extreme answer option and needs to be red flagged immediately. Well red flagging an option isn't the reason to eliminate it, but to be cautious. Even if the only contaminants worth measuring are the ones generated by industry, the conclusion still is valid that all risks need to be accounted for. This option goes out.
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D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment
Cost isn't of concern to the author. Option is absolutely useless. Out of scope.
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E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous
If negated the answer option becomes: minute amounts of some contaminants can NOT be poisonous If the minute amount of some contaminants can not be poisonous then this rather strengthens the conclusion, that we need to consider all the risks involved and not spend exorbitant amount on things not required. This answer option goes out.

B is the best answer option available.
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The argument given concerning the reasonable way to set standards presupposes that

AbdurRakib wrote:
In setting environmental standards for industry and others to meet, it is inadvisable to require the best results that state-of-the-art technology can achieve. Current technology is able to detect and eliminate even extremely minute amounts of contaminants, but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to the improvement achieved. So it would be reasonable instead to set standards by taking into account all of the current and future risks involved.

Situation State-of-the-art technology can detect and eliminate even tiny amounts of environmental contaminants, but at a cost that is exorbitant relative to its benefits.

Reasoning What must be true in order for the argument's premises to support its conclusion? The argument is that environmental standards requiring the best results that state-of-the-art technology can provide are unreasonably expensive relative to their benefits, so it would be reasonable instead to set environmental standards that take into account all present and future risks from contaminants. In order for the premise to support the conclusion, the environmental standards based on present and future risks would have to be less expensive relative to their benefits than the best results environmental standards are. Furthermore, setting the current and future risks environmental standards cannot be reasonable unless it is feasible to assess present and future risks as those standards require.

AbdurRakib wrote:

A. industry currently meets the standards that have been set by environmental authorities

The argument does not say which standards, if any, environmental authorities have set. In any case, such standards could be reasonable or unreasonable regardless of whether industry currently meets them.

AbdurRakib wrote:
B. there are effective ways to take into account all of the relevant risks posed by allowing different levels of contaminants

Correct. If taking future risks into account were infeasible, then applying the current and future risks standards would also be infeasible. And setting those standards would be unreasonable if they could not feasibly be applied.

AbdurRakib wrote:

C. the only contaminants worth measuring are generated by industry

According to the stimulus, the proposed current and future risks standards would apply to industry and others. So those standards could be reasonable even if the unspecified others also generated contaminants worth measuring, and even if the standards required measuring those contaminants.

AbdurRakib wrote:

D. it is not costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment

Even if it were costly to prevent large amounts of contaminants from entering the environment, the benefits of doing so to prevent present and future risks might outweigh the costs.

AbdurRakib wrote:

E. minute amounts of some contaminants can be poisonous

The current and future risks standards could take into account any poisoning risks posed by minute amounts of contaminants.
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