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New post 08 Apr 2010, 22:21
I see that it's well understood that A is the right ans and I can see why
but I have a doubt on this one, for some reason I was stuck between A and E.

As we all know for assumption questions we are supposed to focus on the conclusion.
Conclusion -> The government is not guilty of any fiscal wastefulness. ( so there is nothing else the govt can do but new construction that is the best possible/cost effective/no waste solution)

A Adaptation of vacant office space to meet the government's requirements, if possible, would not make leasing such office space a more cost-effective alternative to new construction.
(so here they are saying that this office space even if we try to use it won't be cost effective which makes sense and I can't honestly I can't find a flaw in this)

E Before embarking on any major construction project, the government is required by law to establish beyond any reasonable doubt that there are no alternatives that are most cost-effective. ( but in this one, where is the flaw, if the government is required by law to prove that there are no other cost effective alternatives, we have sort of covered all wild possibilities and the govt is in no way being wasteful) - please help me out with what I'm missing here, for some reason I see this as a better ans, since it covers the govt from all sides.
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New post 03 Jun 2010, 05:39
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I think E simply repeats the stated conclusion with a touch of some extreme words.


firang wrote:
I see that it's well understood that A is the right ans and I can see why
but I have a doubt on this one, for some reason I was stuck between A and E.

As we all know for assumption questions we are supposed to focus on the conclusion.
Conclusion -> The government is not guilty of any fiscal wastefulness. ( so there is nothing else the govt can do but new construction that is the best possible/cost effective/no waste solution)

A Adaptation of vacant office space to meet the government's requirements, if possible, would not make leasing such office space a more cost-effective alternative to new construction.
(so here they are saying that this office space even if we try to use it won't be cost effective which makes sense and I can't honestly I can't find a flaw in this)

E Before embarking on any major construction project, the government is required by law to establish beyond any reasonable doubt that there are no alternatives that are most cost-effective. ( but in this one, where is the flaw, if the government is required by law to prove that there are no other cost effective alternatives, we have sort of covered all wild possibilities and the govt is in no way being wasteful) - please help me out with what I'm missing here, for some reason I see this as a better ans, since it covers the govt from all sides.

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Although I got the right answer through POE, i dont think I have quite grasp the whole logical reasoning in this question. Can anybody elaborate the reasoning for A? thanks.

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In several cities, the government is going ahead with ambitious construction projects despite the high office-vacancy rates in those cities. The vacant offices, though available for leasing, unfortunately do not meet the requirements for the facilities needed, such as court houses and laboratories. The government, therefore, is not guilty of any fiscal wastefulness.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument above depends?
A Adaptation of vacant office space to meet the government's requirements, if possible, would not make leasing such office space a more cost-effective alternative to new construction.
E Before embarking on any major construction project, the government is required by law to establish beyond any reasonable doubt that there are no alternatives that are most cost-effective


My confusion is between A and E. Finally, I choose E. I still do not know how to get into logical reasoning to choose choice A. This is the really tough question. Can anyone colaborate more specifically. Thanks
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New post 06 Jun 2012, 08:45
I put A just because all the other choices didn't make sense for me. I've seen many techniques that you guys are talking about "irrelevant", "negate", "out of scope". I've never studied for GMAT before. I'm a GMAT rookie. I took the test about two years ago cold turkey. Got a 640 but am trying to improve my score. Please someone be my GMAT Mentor. :D

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A Adaptation of vacant office space to meet the government's requirements, if possible, would not make leasing such office space a more cost-effective alternative to new construction. - Only when making changes to the current facilities to suit gov needs is not as cost effective as building new facilites, gov is going ahead with new projects - Correct
B The government prefers leasing facilities to owning them in cases where the two alternatives are equally cost-effective. - If gov prefers leasing when both are cost effective, then this statement negates the arguement. - Incorrect.
C If facilities available for leasing come very close to meeting the government's requirements for facilities the government needs, the government can relax its own requirements slightly and consider those facilities in compliance. - Since Gov is going ahead with new projects, it can be said that none of the existing facilities come close to being compliant to gov requirements. - Incorrect
D The government's construction projects would not on being completed, add to the stock of facilities available for leasing in the cities concerned. - Gov is going ahead with new projects so that the new projects are compliant with the requirements and hence would be used by Gov after the construction is completed - Incorrect
E Before embarking on any major construction project, the government is required by law to establish beyond any reasonable doubt that there are no alternatives that are most cost-effective. - New projects are in progress and it clearly means that gov could not find any cost effective alternative - Incorrect

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New post 19 Aug 2012, 11:39
Please let me know whether I am correct.
As per the option E, ........any reasonable doubt that there are no alternatives that are most cost effective.
By saying that there are no alternatives..., it raises question of what alternative and thus broadens the scope.
Hence incorrect.
Only option A seems correct because it ensures that even if they fulfil all the requirements, then also it would not make leasing office more cost effective.
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In several cities, the government is going ahead with ambitious construction projects despite the high office-vacancy rates in those cities. The vacant offices, though available for leasing, unfortunately do not meet the requirements for the facilities needed, such as court houses and laboratories. The government, therefore, is not guilty of any fiscal wastefulness.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument above depends?

A Adaptation of vacant office space to meet the government's requirements, if possible, would not make leasing such office space a more cost-effective alternative to new construction.

E Before embarking on any major construction project, the government is required by law to establish beyond any reasonable doubt that there are no alternatives that are most cost-effective.

Went with E. I might just make the same mistake again. Are there any pointers on "assumption on which the argument depends on" available.

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I strongly feel that the answer is A. But negating D would shatter the conclusion.
I'm confused between A and D.

Given:
Govt is planning to build new offices when there are many vacant ones available for leasing.
The vacant ones does not satisfy todays needs.
Hence govt is not wasting money by building new offices. >> conclusion

Assumption
1. there is no way the existing buildings can be redesigned for less to fit the needs.
2. even if they decide using existing office spaces, leasing them wouldn't be cheaper than building new buildings


A Adaptation of vacant office space to meet the government's requirements, if possible, would not make leasing such office space a more cost-effective alternative to new construction. >> Correct one.

B The government prefers leasing facilities to owning them in cases where the two alternatives are equally cost-effective. >>> Additional premises

C If facilities available for leasing come very close to meeting the government's requirements for facilities the government needs, the government can relax its own requirements slightly and consider those facilities in compliance. >> Provides additional info, when added this to the given argument, changes the conclusion.

D The government's construction projects would not on being completed, add to the stock of facilities available for leasing in the cities concerned. >>

E Before embarking on any major construction project, the government is required by law to establish beyond any reasonable doubt that there are no alternatives that are most cost-effective. >>

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My thoughts are below
Premise 1 - In several cities, the government is going ahead with ambitious construction projects despite the high office-vacancy rates in those cities.

Premise 2 - The vacant offices, though available for leasing, unfortunately do not meet the requirements for the facilities needed, such as court houses and laboratories.

Conclusion - The government, therefore, is not guilty of any fiscal wastefulness

A - Adaptation of vacant office space to meet the government's requirements, if possible, would not make leasing such office space a more cost-effective alternative to new construction. (Exactly, this is the answer. What we are talking about in the conclusion is fiscal wastefulness. When the leasing, even after the additional facilities, costs the same as new projects then there is no wastage)

D - The government's construction projects would not on being completed, add to the stock of facilities available for leasing in the cities concerned. (If the government is building the projects for themselves why would they line the projects up for leasing? Even if they do line up, those projects will have better facilities and there are chances of capital-recovery)

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I am really confused between A and E can som1 give solid reason to believe why E is not the answer

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Can you tell why you think E should be the answer? An assumption either connects Premise 1 to Premise 2 (if it is a sub-conclusion) or Premise 2 to conclusion. Where are you fitting option E? Look for yourself. Can we put it between Premise 1 and Premise 2 or between Premise 2 and conclusion?

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I am really confused between A and E can som1 give solid reason to believe why E is not the answer


One more thing.

Samsung Galaxy III is cost effective compared to Apple iphone5 but that does not mean Galaxy is not fiscal wastage (with no offence to the proud owners of either phones), if you can work out with a Nokia :-D

Getting the point?

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A is the only make sense as assumption

the other choices do not hold any water

A) Adaption of vacant office space to meet the governments requirements, if possible, would not make leasing such space a more cost effective alternative to new construction.

B) the government prefers leasing facilities to owning them in cases where the two alternatives are equally cost effective

C) I f facilities available for leasing come very close to meeting the governments requirements for facilities the government needs, the government relax its own requirements slightly and consider those facilities in compliance.

D) the government's construction projects would not, on being completed, add to the stock of the facilities available for leasing in the cities concerned.

E) before embarking on any construction project, the government is required by law to establish beyond any reasonable doubt that there are no alternatives that are more cost effective.

for the reason in A the gov spend more money but is not guilty


can yu please explain y option D is wrong.
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What is your conclusion? And how does D connect with that conclusion?

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New post 21 Jan 2013, 19:16
I failed miserably on this question. If only GMAC could give us about 1 more minute/question on Verbal.

CR is what I struggle most with. I am by no means comfortable yet with it.

So it sounds like we are on the same page.

Owning is preferable to leasing=Assumption.

In the example you provided owning ($400) is preferable to leasing ($600). Why? Because retrofitting the existing space to accommodate government building may be more expensive.

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Another way to think about this questin is (more simple):

The gov pay for leasing for facilities that are not adapt to the scope, but it has to do. a bunch of $ to spend.

As such, if you follow this line of reasoning at the top of your head : the gov can do a sort of adaption and it can do nothing otherwise to pay.

A) adaptation.

Please edit the post with the OA.

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Good amount of typos in the question.
Where did you get it from?



Sorry about that. I just noticed the typos and fixed them. This question came from GMAC Test #52, questions #5 from section 5.

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