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27 Feb 2013, 12:32
Picked C

Rate can't be faster - rate is usually higher or lower

A: rate of increase twice as fast as 1970 - makes no sense if taken literally i.e. rate can't be as fast as "1970
B: rate being fast issue
C: rate... twice what it was in... (correct comparison)
D: rate being fast issue
E: double comparison "2 times" & "greater"
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29 Oct 2013, 17:56
I choose B but I see why C is the answer. Bottom line is I got sucked into the long prepositional phrase. GMAT tries to disguise the subject even in this idiom question. You have to anticipate that the sentence is trying to throw you off. If you isolate the subject and remove the fluff, its easier to see what is being compared. Here is the original sentence marked up to show the bare bones of the sentence. Both A & B suffer from the similar problem.

In the 1980’s the rate of increase of the minority population of the United Stateswas nearly twice as fast as the 1970’s. (the rate can't be fast or slow, the rate just is) Just add a number before rate, say 10%.

In the 1980’s the 10% rate of increase of the minority population of the United Stateswas nearly twice as fast as the 1970’s. (it doesn't make sense. A 10% rate is twice as fast?)

Here is the correct sentence with a number added.
In the 1980’s the 10% rate of increase of the minority population of the United Stateswas nearly twice what it (with it referring to the rate of the 1970s) was in the 1970’s.
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03 Aug 2014, 10:03
I generally have trouble picking the right answer in questions which have something like "twice/as many as/two times".The OA is c.Need explanations for ruling out options b and d.Also,any resources focusing on such questions would be greatly appreciated.

404.In the 1980’s the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was nearly twice as fast as the 1970’s.
(A) twice as fast as
(B) twice as fast as it was in
(C) twice what it was in
(D) two times faster than that of
(E) two times greater than
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28 Jul 2015, 02:39
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404. In the 1980’s the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was nearly twice as fast as the 1970’s.

(A) twice as fast as
(B) twice as fast as it was in
(C) twice what it was in
(D) two times faster than that of
(E) two times greater than

The reason I rejected C was no 'of ' in C. Shouldnt it be "twice of what it was in 1970's '' ?
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08 Sep 2015, 22:46
three observations leaves "C" to be the only choice for us to pick.

1. wrong comparison - twice as fast as 1970. rate cannot be compared with year. pronoun is needed. "A" is gone.
2. redundancy - two times greater, two times faster, twice as fast as - are all redundant. B, D, E are out.
3. reference for the pronoun "it" - it refers back to "The rate" correctly. - C is correctly doing it.
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15 Dec 2015, 19:50
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In the 1980’s the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was nearly twice as fast as the 1970’s.

first of all, we are comparing the rate of increase in 1980 to the rate of increase in the 1970.
since we are comparing the same thing, and since we have a preposition "in" at the beginning of the sentence, there is a high probability that the one specifying "in the 1970's" is the right answer.
moreover, A is incorrect, "as fast as" means the same, thus, it can't be twice!!! as fast.

(A) twice as fast as
twice + as fast as - is awkward and incorrect. as fast as means the same.
(B) twice as fast as it was in
same as in A. twice as fast as - incorrect. nevertheless, the it was in is ok.
(C) twice what it was in
looks good, it says that the rate in the 1980 was twice what it was in 1970.
(D) two times faster than that of
two times faster - wordy, moreover, it changes the meaning as it says the rate of 1970, not the rate of of increase of the minority population. than that - implies as smth else is compared, although the only antecedent for "that" is the rate.
(E) two times greater than
greater is used for comparing 2 different things. thus it is incorrect.
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05 Feb 2016, 09:37
The fact that a rate is a measure that cannot be expressed in terms of fastness or slowness drives us to eliminate choices A, B and D. E can be avoided because of the faulty comparison between a rate and a year.
We are left with C, which measures the two rates in terms of quantity and maintains the prepositional ‘in’ parallelism.
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09 Sep 2016, 11:37
“Rate” can’t be fast. “Rate” can be high. (The way height can’t be tall)
A, B, and E are incorrect because of the use of “fast/faster” for “rate”
E: “in” is missing after “than”
C: concise and clear. Best choice.
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09 Feb 2017, 23:13
What is the role played by 'what' in the OA? Is it relative pronoun here? If so, two pronouns (what and it) simultaneously to refer a single noun (the rate of increase) seems unusual.
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What is the role played by 'what' in the OA? Is it relative pronoun here? If so, two pronouns (what and it) simultaneously to refer a single noun (the rate of increase) seems unusual.

Consider the following sentence:

What was the population in 1970?
"What" is an interrogative pronoun (referring to a value that would come as an answer.)

Now replace the population with "it".
What was it in 1970?"
"What" remains an interrogative pronoun (referring to a value that would come as an answer.)
"It" refers to population.

In the same way, in option C "what" refers to the value, and "it" refers to "population".
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11 Feb 2017, 07:59
Nice Question! Following is my reasoning..

"if the noun in question is already an explicitly numerical quantity, then you should use neither "much" nor "many". instead, you should just use "twice" or "double" by itself.
e.g., twice the increase --> "increase" is an explicitly numerical quantity" - RonPurewal (https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... t5600.html)

The rate of increase is numerical. So, A & B can be eliminated.

In D, two times faster than that of the 1970's. --> two times faster than rate of increase of the 1970's. It shall not be rate of increase of the 1970's rather it would be rate of increase of the minority population.

In E, two times greater than --- rate of increase of the minority population two times greater than the 1970's. Illogical comparison, rate vs. year.

So, it is C.
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18 Apr 2017, 04:06
priyankur_saha@ml.com wrote:
In the 1980’s the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was nearly twice as fast as the 1970’s.

(A) twice as fast as
(B) twice as fast as it was in
(C) twice what it was in
(D) two times faster than that of
(E) two times greater than

All of them (except the Answer - C) have redundancy error ...

The underlined portion already mention that "The rate of INCREASE of ...."
hence we do not need the words "fast" (in Option A & B), "faster" (in option D) and "greater" (as in Option E)...
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20 Apr 2017, 20:49
In the 1980's the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was nearly twice as fast as the 1970's.

(A) twice as fast as

--> the rate of increase is not fast or faster than anything because it is a number. the rate of increase can be equal to, greater than or less then, but not fas or faster than

(B) twice as fast as it was in

--> same errors as in A

(C) twice what it was in

--> correct

(D) two times faster than that of

--> same errors as in A

(E) two times greater than

--> wrong camparison between the rate of increase and the 1970's
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11 Jun 2017, 10:43
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９． In the 1980's the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was nearly twice as fast as the 1970's.
(A) twice as fast as
(B) twice as fast as it was in
(C) twice what it was in
(D) two times faster than that of
(E) two times greater than

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I selected "E". Option "C" looked wrong to me. Below is my reasoning.

The word 1970's. Itself means "that of 1970". Notice the " ' " in 1970's. "that" refers to "rate of increase of the minority population". If this logic is correct then "what it was" as used in option "C" becomes redundant.

Option "E" correctly avoids this redundancy.
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11 Jun 2017, 11:14
<<I selected "E". Option "C" looked wrong to me. Below is my reasoning.

The word 1970's. Itself means "that of 1970". Notice the " ' " in 1970's. "that" refers to "rate of increase of the minority population". If this logic is correct then "what it was" as used in option "C" becomes redundant.

Option "E" correctly avoids this redundancy.>>

Ravi, because the sentence begins with the phrase "In the 1980's", the comparison must maintain this structure of "in the 1970's" to be parallel. From this one can eliminate ADE. Then, "twice as fast" is unnecessarily redundant phrasing that can eliminate choice B. The correct answer is C. Hope that helps!
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11 Jun 2017, 11:21
smaisnier wrote:
<<I selected "E". Option "C" looked wrong to me. Below is my reasoning.

The word 1970's. Itself means "that of 1970". Notice the " ' " in 1970's. "that" refers to "rate of increase of the minority population". If this logic is correct then "what it was" as used in option "C" becomes redundant.

Option "E" correctly avoids this redundancy.>>

Ravi, because the sentence begins with the phrase "In the 1980's", the comparison must maintain this structure of "in the 1970's" to be parallel. From this one can eliminate ADE. Then, "twice as fast" is unnecessarily redundant phrasing that can eliminate choice B. The correct answer is C. Hope that helps!

Thanks smaisnier,

I noticed 1980's as well. In my opinion, the decades should be mentioned as 1980s and 1970s, without " ' " to bring out a logical meaning to option "C".
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14 Oct 2017, 01:29
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As many people correctly pointed out, B tries to modify the noun "rate" as "fast", making the sentence illogical.

In addition, B uses the pronoun "it" incorrectly. It must refer to the SAME "copy" of thing. For example:

-Mike saw a scrumptious piece of cherry pie at the shop. The temptation was too great, and he had to eat it.

Here, "it" refers to the same piece of cherry pie, Mike had seen earlier.

"it" in B refers to the same rate of increase that appears in the sentence earlier. Of course, this is incorrect, as the purpose is to compare two DIFFERENT rates.

Hope this helps!

"it" in B refers to the same rate of increase that appears in the sentence earlier. Of course, this is incorrect, as the purpose is to compare two DIFFERENT rates. But the same is the case with option C which is the OA. Can someone explain this difference between the 2 options B and C?
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06 Feb 2018, 06:39
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almostfamous wrote:
As many people correctly pointed out, B tries to modify the noun "rate" as "fast", making the sentence illogical.

In addition, B uses the pronoun "it" incorrectly. It must refer to the SAME "copy" of thing. For example:

-Mike saw a scrumptious piece of cherry pie at the shop. The temptation was too great, and he had to eat it.

Here, "it" refers to the same piece of cherry pie, Mike had seen earlier.

"it" in B refers to the same rate of increase that appears in the sentence earlier. Of course, this is incorrect, as the purpose is to compare two DIFFERENT rates.

Hope this helps!

"it" in B refers to the same rate of increase that appears in the sentence earlier. Of course, this is incorrect, as the purpose is to compare two DIFFERENT rates. But the same is the case with option C which is the OA. Can someone explain this difference between the 2 options B and C?

twice what it was in ......twice what(the value) it(the rate of increase) in
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