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Can anyone explain Q7 please?

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Can anyone explain Q7 please?

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Hey Cinematiccuisine

The last sentence says, 'That 80 percent of the area’s cropland is now irrigated and that the region is currently the top producer of many specialty crops cannot be fully understood by historiographers without attention to the input of Chinese settlers as reconstructed from their interactions with that landscape'.

Essence of the sentence - Without knowledge of role played by Chinese, it's difficult to know about many speciality crops.

Which of the following strengthens?

A. Market research of agribusinesses owned by descendants of Chinese settlers shows that the market for the region’s specialty crops has grown substantially faster than the market for any other crops in the last decade. - Not relevant
B. Nineteenth-century surveying records indicate that the lands now cultivated by specialty crop businesses owned by descendants of Chinese settlers were formerly swamp lands. -Strengthens. If the land owned by Chinese descendants were swamp lands, it's the Chinese who have used their knowledge to make such lands fertile.
C. Research by university agricultural science departments proves that the formerly arid lands now cultivated by large agribusinesses contain extremely fertile soil when they are sufficiently irrigated. - Doesn't connect the role played by Chinese and the swamp lands. Not relevant.
D. A technological history tracing the development of irrigation systems in region reveals that their efficiency has increased steadily. Doesn't bring Chinese in the picture. Doesn't connect the role played by Chinese and the swamp lands. Not relevant.
E. Whether records compiled over the previous century demonstrate that the weather patterns in the region are well-suited to growing certain specialty crops as long as they are irrigated. Doesn't connect the role played by Chinese and the swamp lands. Not relevant.

Hope this helped.

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1. Which one of the following most accurately states the main point of the passage?


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But because a full study of a culture’s historical relationship to its land cannon confine itself to a narrow record of experience, these historiographers have begun to recognize the value of other kinds of evidence, such as the actions of Asian settlers.


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A. The history of settlement along the Pacific Coast of the U.S., as understood by most historiographers, is confirmed by evidence reconstructed from the actions of Asian settlers.

The passage is not about confirming the history of settlement along the pacific coast, but about including the written records of other Asian settlers to get a true picture.

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B. Asian settlers on the Pacific Coast of the U.S. left a record of their experiences that traditional historiographers believed to be irrelevant.

Traditional historiographers did not consider the records of Asian Settlers because the their definition for source included just European records. Not because they consider it to be irrelevant.

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C. To understand Asian settlers’ impact on the history of the Pacific Coast of the U.S., historiographers have had to recognize the value of non-traditional kinds of historiographical evidence.

Yes. Right Answer. They had to redefine their traditional sources and turn to non-traditional sources to understand the history of the Pacific coast.

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D. Spurred by new findings regarding Asian settlement on the Pacific Coast of the U.S. historiographers have begun to debate the methodological foundations of historiographer.

No debate took place in the argument.

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E. By examining only written information, historiography as it is traditionally practiced has produced inaccurate historical accounts.

Nothing of that sort is mentioned.
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Your prediction as to why the author devotes paragraph 3 to Chinese settlers need be no more precise than “to act as a case in point”! That’s enough to make (C) beckon. The Chinese settlers’ actions are “integral,” hence “unique”; and paragraph 3 specifically focuses on their view of the land, as (C) says.

(E) It’s not that the Asian evidence either confirms or contradicts that which was known from studying European writings; it’s that the record isn’t complete without it. That Europeans viewed the land as hopeless while the Chinese farmers saw potential is not an “inconsistency of history” but a difference of opinion.

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why the answer is not option e
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In question 2, the author should have a much broader motive to write the third paragraph instead of just about the techniques. Author must have wrote about the evidence of the lack of asian settlement in written history.
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1. Which one of the following most accurately states the main point of the passage?


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But because a full study of a culture’s historical relationship to its land cannon confine itself to a narrow record of experience, these historiographers have begun to recognize the value of other kinds of evidence, such as the actions of Asian settlers.


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A. The history of settlement along the Pacific Coast of the U.S., as understood by most historiographers, is confirmed by evidence reconstructed from the actions of Asian settlers.

The passage is not about confirming the history of settlement along the pacific coast, but about including the written records of other Asian settlers to get a true picture.

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B. Asian settlers on the Pacific Coast of the U.S. left a record of their experiences that traditional historiographers believed to be irrelevant.

Traditional historiographers did not consider the records of Asian Settlers because the their definition for source included just European records. Not because they consider it to be irrelevant.

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C. To understand Asian settlers’ impact on the history of the Pacific Coast of the U.S., historiographers have had to recognize the value of non-traditional kinds of historiographical evidence.

Yes. Right Answer. They had to redefine their traditional sources and turn to non-traditional sources to understand the history of the Pacific coast.

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D. Spurred by new findings regarding Asian settlement on the Pacific Coast of the U.S. historiographers have begun to debate the methodological foundations of historiographer.

No debate took place in the argument.

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E. By examining only written information, historiography as it is traditionally practiced has produced inaccurate historical accounts.

Nothing of that sort is mentioned.


isnt incomplete and innacurate synonymous in this case? Also the last sentence of the passage says that the historians cannot accurately provide the history w/o considering the input of the chinese settlers. So isnt this language indicative that the historians should follow another path and not that they have already moved to a different path? Sajjad1994
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1. Which one of the following most accurately states the main point of the passage?


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But because a full study of a culture’s historical relationship to its land cannon confine itself to a narrow record of experience, these historiographers have begun to recognize the value of other kinds of evidence, such as the actions of Asian settlers.


Quote:
A. The history of settlement along the Pacific Coast of the U.S., as understood by most historiographers, is confirmed by evidence reconstructed from the actions of Asian settlers.

The passage is not about confirming the history of settlement along the pacific coast, but about including the written records of other Asian settlers to get a true picture.

Quote:
B. Asian settlers on the Pacific Coast of the U.S. left a record of their experiences that traditional historiographers believed to be irrelevant.

Traditional historiographers did not consider the records of Asian Settlers because the their definition for source included just European records. Not because they consider it to be irrelevant.

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C. To understand Asian settlers’ impact on the history of the Pacific Coast of the U.S., historiographers have had to recognize the value of non-traditional kinds of historiographical evidence.

Yes. Right Answer. They had to redefine their traditional sources and turn to non-traditional sources to understand the history of the Pacific coast.

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D. Spurred by new findings regarding Asian settlement on the Pacific Coast of the U.S. historiographers have begun to debate the methodological foundations of historiographer.

No debate took place in the argument.

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E. By examining only written information, historiography as it is traditionally practiced has produced inaccurate historical accounts.

Nothing of that sort is mentioned.


isnt incomplete and innacurate synonymous in this case? Also the last sentence of the passage says that the historians cannot accurately provide the history w/o considering the input of the chinese settlers. So isnt this language indicative that the historians should follow another path and not that they have already moved to a different path? Sajjad1994



Hi deepshanker005,

Not exactly sure of what exactly your doubt is, and if you could elaborate on what exactly is your question, I could help better, but here is my reasoning for why the accounts from Chinese settlers is not different from the study of the accounts of the Asian settlers.

Consider the lines:
But because a full study of a culture’s historical relationship to its land cannon confine itself to a narrow record of experience, these historiographers have begun to recognize the value of other kinds of evidence, such as the actions of Asian settlers.
As a case in point, the role of Chinese settlers in expanding agriculture throughout the Pacific Coast territory is integral to the history of the region

The above lines imply what you have already mentioned that accounts of Chinese settlers is integral to the history of the region, which is exactly what option C portrays. We can reject E since, we cannot infer from the passage, whether considering only only written information, historiography has produced inaccurate historical accounts.


Let me know if you still have doubts.
Thanks.
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Please suggest for Q4:

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4. The author would most likely disagree with which one of the following statements?


But in furthering this investigation some historiographers have recently recognized the need to expand their definition of what a source is.

But because a full study of a culture’s historical relationship to its land cannon confine itself to a narrow record of experience, these historiographers have begun to recognize the value of other kinds of evidence, such as the actions of Asian settlers. As a case in point, the role of Chinese settlers in expanding agriculture throughout the Pacific Coast territory is integral to the history of the region



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D. By recognizing as evidence the actions of people, historiographers expand the definition of what a source is


But in furthering this investigation some historiographers have recently recognized the need to expand their definition of what a source is.
Historiographers expanded the definition because they were confined to a narrow record of experience not because expanded definition by seeing evidence as actions of people
Why D is not an answer?


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E. The expanded definition of a source will probably not be relevant to studies of regions that have no significant immigration of non-Europeans.


1. Definition of source may not be applicable to regions that have Europeans settlers. As per historiographers, source would be expanded if observer evidence of non-Europeans . The how can expanded definition of a source be relevant to regions that have no significant immigration of non –Europeans?
Author should agree with this
2. Probably not : or probably –both doesn’t affect much. May or may not be applicable – soft term is used so author has no harm in agreeing then why this is an answer?
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Please suggest for Q4:

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4. The author would most likely disagree with which one of the following statements?


But in furthering this investigation some historiographers have recently recognized the need to expand their definition of what a source is.

But because a full study of a culture’s historical relationship to its land cannon confine itself to a narrow record of experience, these historiographers have begun to recognize the value of other kinds of evidence, such as the actions of Asian settlers. As a case in point, the role of Chinese settlers in expanding agriculture throughout the Pacific Coast territory is integral to the history of the region



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D. By recognizing as evidence the actions of people, historiographers expand the definition of what a source is


But in furthering this investigation some historiographers have recently recognized the need to expand their definition of what a source is.
Historiographers expanded the definition because they were confined to a narrow record of experience not because expanded definition by seeing evidence as actions of people
Why D is not an answer?


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E. The expanded definition of a source will probably not be relevant to studies of regions that have no significant immigration of non-Europeans.


1. Definition of source may not be applicable to regions that have Europeans settlers. As per historiographers, source would be expanded if observer evidence of non-Europeans . The how can expanded definition of a source be relevant to regions that have no significant immigration of non –Europeans?
Author should agree with this
2. Probably not : or probably –both doesn’t affect much. May or may not be applicable – soft term is used so author has no harm in agreeing then why this is an answer?

Hello, mSKR. (You dropped the "i"?) First of all, what are you doing practicing LSAT passages if you are preparing for the GMAT™? The reading passages and accompanying questions from one test to another are not interchangeable. With that said, both (D) and (E) are the types of answers that should not warrant a further look at the passage, provided you have followed its main point from paragraph to paragraph. Choice (D) agrees with the content of the passage: historiographers better understand their subject by acknowledging multiple sources of information. Choice (E) sounds ethnocentric and goes in the opposite direction, placing too much emphasis on records written by Europeans, essentially dismissing any additional information provided by non-European sources, provided this latter group is not sizable enough. (Sounds pretty racist to me, not a vibe I picked up from the passage.) You focused on probably when I think you should have gone back one word further—will probably. This is much more predictive than a standalone probably. Consider:

1) I probably should study more. (This may be important or urgent, but maybe not.)
2) Someone will probably steal the diamond. (This seems likely, something that warrants action.)

I hope that helps. Thank you for thinking to ask.

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AndrewN sir

Please suggest for Q4:

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4. The author would most likely disagree with which one of the following statements?


But in furthering this investigation some historiographers have recently recognized the need to expand their definition of what a source is.

But because a full study of a culture’s historical relationship to its land cannon confine itself to a narrow record of experience, these historiographers have begun to recognize the value of other kinds of evidence, such as the actions of Asian settlers. As a case in point, the role of Chinese settlers in expanding agriculture throughout the Pacific Coast territory is integral to the history of the region



Quote:
D. By recognizing as evidence the actions of people, historiographers expand the definition of what a source is


But in furthering this investigation some historiographers have recently recognized the need to expand their definition of what a source is.
Historiographers expanded the definition because they were confined to a narrow record of experience not because expanded definition by seeing evidence as actions of people
Why D is not an answer?


Quote:
E. The expanded definition of a source will probably not be relevant to studies of regions that have no significant immigration of non-Europeans.


1. Definition of source may not be applicable to regions that have Europeans settlers. As per historiographers, source would be expanded if observer evidence of non-Europeans . The how can expanded definition of a source be relevant to regions that have no significant immigration of non –Europeans?
Author should agree with this
2. Probably not : or probably –both doesn’t affect much. May or may not be applicable – soft term is used so author has no harm in agreeing then why this is an answer?

Hello, mSKR. (You dropped the "i"?) First of all, what are you doing practicing LSAT passages if you are preparing for the GMAT™? The reading passages and accompanying questions from one test to another are not interchangeable. With that said, both (D) and (E) are the types of answers that should not warrant a further look at the passage, provided you have followed its main point from paragraph to paragraph. Choice (D) agrees with the content of the passage: historiographers better understand their subject by acknowledging multiple sources of information. Choice (E) sounds ethnocentric and goes in the opposite direction, placing too much emphasis on records written by Europeans, essentially dismissing any additional information provided by non-European sources, provided this latter group is not sizable enough. (Sounds pretty racist to me, not a vibe I picked up from the passage.) You focused on probably when I think you should have gone back one word further—will probably. This is much more predictive than a standalone probably. Consider:

1) I probably should study more. (This may be important or urgent, but maybe not.)
2) Someone will probably steal the diamond. (This seems likely, something that warrants action.)

I hope that helps. Thank you for thinking to ask.

- Andrew



Thanks for clarifying. I realized the question was easy. I got confused with "probably and then I messed up:)
Next time, If i get confused i will take a step backward and make sure what i know and stick to it to answer whatever is in front

Thanks AndrewN for clarfying:)
Yup dropped i in imSkr: made more concise) :D)
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Can anyone explain questions 3 and 5?


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3. The passage states that the primary traditional historiographic sources of information about the history of the Pacific Coast of the U.S. have which one of the following characteristics?

Difficulty Level: 500

Explanation

“Primary traditional...sources” (there’s “traditional” again!) sends us to paragraph 1, specifically lines 8–14 (In this endeavor historiographers examining the history of the Pacific Coast of the United States have traditionally depended on the records left by European American explorers of the nineteenth century who, as commissioned agents of the U.S. government, were instructed to report thoroughly their findings in writing.), which allows us to predict as an answer “the writings of European explorers.” What could be more straightforward than (E)?

(A) The only reference to time frame is in lines 22–25 (records left by Asian settlers; in contrast to the commissioned agents, most of the people who first came to western North America from Asia during this same period did not focus on developing), where we hear that the European and Asian settlers arrived “during this same period,” although the former wrote things down and the latter didn’t.

(B) Native Americans—whether sources of written evidence or not—are never mentioned in the passage.

(C) Opposite. The European settlers saw the land as “useless, untillable swamp.”

(D) Another Opposite. The traditional primary sources considered the Pacific Coast a “generally arid region.”

Answer: E


5. According to the passage, each of the following was an aspect of Chinese settlers’ initial interactions with the landscape of the Pacific Coast of the U.S. EXCEPT:

Difficulty Level: 650

Explanation

A quick skim of paragraphs 2 and 3—the portions of the passage in which Chinese settlers’ reactions to the land are described—should knock out (B) and (C) in a heartbeat: the Chinese view of the land as agriculturally promising was certainly “new” compared with the other settlers’ view (B), and the phrase “specialized agricultural skills” (C) jumps out at us.

Meanwhile, the Chinese settlers’ interest in using nuisance weeds in a new and productive way (lines 43–47: Where other settlers who looked at certain weeds, such as wild mustard, generally saw a nuisance, Chinese settlers saw abundant raw material for valuable spices from a plant naturally suited to the local soil and climate.) speaks to (A), while lines 51–52 (Their vision was reinforced by specialized skills involving swamp reclamation and irrigation systems) directly support (E).

That leaves (D), and while the Chinese settlers may well have been smart businesspeople, the word “agribusiness” is used to describe only the activities of the modern era (line 54: helped lay the foundation for the now well-known) and thus is not directly associated with “settlers’ initial interactions.”

Answer: D
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RC gmat VS Official LSAT
Are they similar ? or which one is harder?


The major difference between the official GMAT RCs and LSAT RCs is the length of the text, LSAT RCs are lengthy with mostly between 55-60 lines while GMAT RCs are a mixture of long and short passages. In terms of difficulty level i have seen a few LSAT RCs way harder than those of GMAT. For practice point of view i think LST RCs are better than GRE RCs for a student run out of official GMAT RCs and looking for more practice.

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