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In the figure above, showing circle with center O and points A, B, and C on the circle, given that minor arc (AB) is one-third of the total circumference and length (AB)=\(12\sqrt{3}\) , what is the radius of the circle?

A. 12
B. 18
C. 24
D. 36
E. 72


Guys I did this question with this approach, can you kindly evaluate the approach
\(AB= \frac{1}{3} Circumference\)
So,\(AB = \frac{2}{3}Pi* R\)
Also \(AB=12\sqrt{3}\)
Therefore, \(12\sqrt{3} = \frac{2}{3}Pi* R\)
Manipulating\(R = 12\)
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In the figure above, showing circle with center O and points A, B, and C on the circle, given that minor arc (AB) is one-third of the total circumference and length (AB)=\(12\sqrt{3}\) , what is the radius of the circle?

12

18

24

36

72


\(\angle AOB = 120^{\circ}\)

So,

\(\angle\) ACB = \(60^{\circ}\)

So, the \(\triangle\) ABC is a 30, 60, 90 triangle and the sides are in the ratio 1 : \(\sqrt{3}\) : 2

or 12 : 12\(\sqrt{3}\) : 24

So, AC = 24 and hence AO = 12

Answer is A


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since \(\angle AOB = 120^{\circ}\)
so \(\angle\) ACB = \(60^{\circ}\) ?

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In the figure above, showing circle with center O and points A, B, and C on the circle, given that minor arc (AB) is one-third of the total circumference and length (AB)=\(12\sqrt{3}\) , what is the radius of the circle?

A. 12
B. 18
C. 24
D. 36
E. 72

Good question. It tests three must know properties for the GMAT:

1. A right triangle inscribed in a circle must have its hypotenuse as the diameter of the circle. The reverse is also true: if the diameter of the circle is also the triangle’s side, then that triangle is a right triangle.

According to the above, we have that ABC is a right triangle, with a right angle at B.

2. The Central Angle Theorem states that the measure of inscribed angle is always half the measure of the central angle.

According to the above, central angle AOB is twice inscribed angle ACB (notice that both subtend the same arc AB). Hence since AOB=120 degrees (third of 360 degrees), then ACB=60 degrees. So, we have that triangle ABC is 30°-60°-90° right triangle.

3. In a right triangle where the angles are 30°, 60°, and 90° the sides are always in the ratio \(1 : \sqrt{3}: 2\).

Notice that the smallest side (1) is opposite the smallest angle (30°), and the longest side (2) is opposite the largest angle (90°).

Thus, \(AB:AC=\sqrt{3}: 2\) --> \(\frac{12\sqrt{3}}{AC}=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\) --> AC=diameter=24 --> radius=12.

Answer: A.

For more on triangles check: math-triangles-87197.html
For more on circles check: math-circles-87957.html

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I'm having trouble visualizing your 2nd point; could you draw a rough illustration of it? I'm familiar with the theorem, great illustration here: https://www.mathopenref.com/arccentralangletheorem.html, but I can't visualize it in this problem. I got the answer correct as the sqrt(3) tipped me off to a likely 30-60-90, but I'd like to learn a bit more from this problem
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Bunuel wrote:

In the figure above, showing circle with center O and points A, B, and C on the circle, given that minor arc (AB) is one-third of the total circumference and length (AB)=\(12\sqrt{3}\) , what is the radius of the circle?

A. 12
B. 18
C. 24
D. 36
E. 72

Good question. It tests three must know properties for the GMAT:

1. A right triangle inscribed in a circle must have its hypotenuse as the diameter of the circle. The reverse is also true: if the diameter of the circle is also the triangle’s side, then that triangle is a right triangle.

According to the above, we have that ABC is a right triangle, with a right angle at B.

2. The Central Angle Theorem states that the measure of inscribed angle is always half the measure of the central angle.

According to the above, central angle AOB is twice inscribed angle ACB (notice that both subtend the same arc AB). Hence since AOB=120 degrees (third of 360 degrees), then ACB=60 degrees. So, we have that triangle ABC is 30°-60°-90° right triangle.

3. In a right triangle where the angles are 30°, 60°, and 90° the sides are always in the ratio \(1 : \sqrt{3}: 2\).

Notice that the smallest side (1) is opposite the smallest angle (30°), and the longest side (2) is opposite the largest angle (90°).

Thus, \(AB:AC=\sqrt{3}: 2\) --> \(\frac{12\sqrt{3}}{AC}=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\) --> AC=diameter=24 --> radius=12.

Answer: A.

For more on triangles check: math-triangles-87197.html
For more on circles check: math-circles-87957.html

Hope it helps.



I'm having trouble visualizing your 2nd point; could you draw a rough illustration of it? I'm familiar with the theorem, great illustration here: https://www.mathopenref.com/arccentralangletheorem.html, but I can't visualize it in this problem. I got the answer correct as the sqrt(3) tipped me off to a likely 30-60-90, but I'd like to learn a bit more from this problem


Please, follow this link: math-circles-87957.html
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Do we just assume that AC is the diameter?
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Ok, assuming we know this is a right triangle because we know that the picture is accurate...

If the triangle is a right triangle, we know that angle B is the right angle. Furthermore, we are given that arc AB = 1/3 of the circle's circumference (i.e it = 120 degrees) This means that AOB, the central angle = 120 degrees and because AO and BO are radii, we know that triangle AOB is an isosceles triangle. We also know the angle measure of angle BOC which = 180 - 120 = 60. If angle AOB is the interior angle, it is twice the measure of the "exterior" angle ACB, so ACB = 60. Now we know that triangle BOC is equilateral. More importantly, we know that ABC is a 30:60:90 triangle. With this, we can find the measure of any given side knowing just the measure of one. The ratio of side lengths in a 30:60:90 is (x/2):(3/2*x):(x) in this case, x (the radius) = 12.
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Do we just assume that AC is the diameter?


Please read here: in-the-figure-above-showing-circle-with-center-o-and-points-147885.html#p1187477

We did not assume that. AC passes through the center of the circle thus it's the diameter.

A right triangle inscribed in a circle must have its hypotenuse as the diameter of the circle. The reverse is also true: if the diameter of the circle is also the triangle’s side, then that triangle is a right triangle.

According to the above, we have that ABC is a right triangle, with a right angle at B.
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WholeLottaLove wrote:
Do we just assume that AC is the diameter?


Please read here: in-the-figure-above-showing-circle-with-center-o-and-points-147885.html#p1187477

We did not assume that. AC passes through the center of the circle thus it's the diameter.

A right triangle inscribed in a circle must have its hypotenuse as the diameter of the circle. The reverse is also true: if the diameter of the circle is also the triangle’s side, then that triangle is a right triangle.

According to the above, we have that ABC is a right triangle, with a right angle at B.


I understand the rule, but in other words, how do we know that the drawing isn't misleading and that AC passes above the center?
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WholeLottaLove wrote:
Do we just assume that AC is the diameter?


Please read here: in-the-figure-above-showing-circle-with-center-o-and-points-147885.html#p1187477

We did not assume that. AC passes through the center of the circle thus it's the diameter.

A right triangle inscribed in a circle must have its hypotenuse as the diameter of the circle. The reverse is also true: if the diameter of the circle is also the triangle’s side, then that triangle is a right triangle.

According to the above, we have that ABC is a right triangle, with a right angle at B.


I understand the rule, but in other words, how do we know that the drawing isn't misleading and that AC passes above the center?


OG13, page 150:
Figures: A figure accompanying a problem solving question is intended to provide information useful in solving the problem. Figures are drawn as accurately as possible. Exceptions will be clearly noted. Lines shown as straight are straight, and lines that appear jagged are also straight. The positions of points, angles, regions, etc., exist in the order shown, and angle measures are greater than zero. All figures lie in a plane unless otherwise indicated.

OG13, page 272:
A figure accompanying a data sufficiency problem will conform to the information given in the question but will not necessarily conform to the additional information given in statements (1) and (2).
Lines shown as straight can be assumed to be straight and lines that appear jagged can also be assumed to be straight.
You may assume that the positions of points, angles, regions, and so forth exist in the order shown and that angle measures are greater than zero degrees.
All figures lie in a plane unless otherwise indicated.
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In the figure above, showing circle with center O and points A, B, and C on the circle, given that minor arc (AB) is one-third of the total circumference and length (AB)=\(12\sqrt{3}\) , what is the radius of the circle?

A. 12
B. 18
C. 24
D. 36
E. 72

Good question. It tests three must know properties for the GMAT:

1. A right triangle inscribed in a circle must have its hypotenuse as the diameter of the circle. The reverse is also true: if the diameter of the circle is also the triangle’s side, then that triangle is a right triangle.

According to the above, we have that ABC is a right triangle, with a right angle at B.

2. The Central Angle Theorem states that the measure of inscribed angle is always half the measure of the central angle.

According to the above, central angle AOB is twice inscribed angle ACB (notice that both subtend the same arc AB). Hence since AOB=120 degrees (third of 360 degrees), then ACB=60 degrees. So, we have that triangle ABC is 30°-60°-90° right triangle.

3. In a right triangle where the angles are 30°, 60°, and 90° the sides are always in the ratio \(1 : \sqrt{3}: 2\).

Notice that the smallest side (1) is opposite the smallest angle (30°), and the longest side (2) is opposite the largest angle (90°).

Thus, \(AB:AC=\sqrt{3}: 2\) --> \(\frac{12\sqrt{3}}{AC}=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\) --> AC=diameter=24 --> radius=12.

Answer: A.

For more on triangles check: math-triangles-87197.html
For more on circles check: math-circles-87957.html

Hope it helps.


Hi Bunuel

Particularly in this question with the given options , do we even need this much detail.

We know that the angle AOB = 120 degrees as it is 1/3 the circumference. AO=OB as they are the radius. So the two angles OAB and OBA will be equal in the triangle AOB. Thus Angle OBA=OBA=30 ( 180-120)/2. In a triangle the greatest side is opposite the largest angle . Here AB is opposite the largest angle and is 12sqrt2 so the other sides ( the radii) will have to be less that this value and only A satisfies the condition over here
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hi please help, got stuck. why dont i get a clean answer of 12?

12\(\sqrt{3}\) = \(\frac{1}{3}\) * 2 * pie * R
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does the wording simply states that the length of the arc AB is one third WITHOUT INDICATING THE EXACT VALUE, and the value of 12 root 3 is given for the side AB (rather than the arc AB)? i think the probles is poorly worded. look how it looks in the original. veritas should not have placed that bar above AB if they meant it was not the arc but the length
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In the figure above, showing circle with center O and points A, B, and C on the circle, given that minor arc (AB) is one-third of the total circumference and length (AB)=\(12\sqrt{3}\) , what is the radius of the circle?

A. 12
B. 18
C. 24
D. 36
E. 72


Guys I did this question with this approach, can you kindly evaluate the approach
\(AB= \frac{1}{3} Circumference\)
So,\(AB = \frac{2}{3}Pi* R\)
Also \(AB=12\sqrt{3}\)
Therefore, \(12\sqrt{3} = \frac{2}{3}Pi* R\)
Manipulating\(R = 12\)



AB Arc and not AB line segment is equal to 2/3 of circumference. Moreover AB arc is not 12root3, AB Line segment is.
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