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Where does it say that Points A, B and C lie on the same line? Assumption?
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Qoofi wrote:
Where does it say that Points A, B and C lie on the same line? Assumption?

OG13, page 272:
A figure accompanying a data sufficiency problem will conform to the information given in the question but will not necessarily conform to the additional information given in statements (1) and (2).
Lines shown as straight can be assumed to be straight and lines that appear jagged can also be assumed to be straight.
You may assume that the positions of points, angles, regions, and so forth exist in the order shown and that angle measures are greater than zero degrees.
All figures lie in a plane unless otherwise indicated.

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In the figure shown, point O is the center of the semicircle and B, C, D lie on the semicircle. If the length of line segment AB is equal to the length of line segment OC, what is the degree measure of angle BAO ?

(1) The degree measure of angle COD is 60º.
(2) The degree measure of angle BCD is 40º.

Write down everything you know from the stem:

BO=CO=r=AB --> BOC and ABO are isosceles.
<BAO=<BOA and <BCO=<OBC
<CBO=2<BAO

(1) <BAO +<ACO=<COD=60 degrees (Using exterior angle theorem)
<ACO = <CBO = 2<BAO
So, <BAO + <ACO = 2<BAO + <BOA = 3* (<BAO) = 60 degrees
<BAO = 20 degrees. SUFFICIENT

(2) <BCO=40 degrees --> <BCO=<CBO=40 degrees=2<BAO --> <BAO=20 degrees. SUFFICIENT

Answer: D.

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What property have you used Bunuel -
<CBO=2<BAO
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burnttwinky wrote: In the figure shown, point O is the center of the semicircle and points B, C, D lie on the semicircle. If the length of line segment AB is equal to the length of line segment OC, what is the degree measure of angle BAO ?

(1) The degree measure of angle COD is 60º.
(2) The degree measure of angle BCO is 40º.

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Hi Guys, here's an alternative approach. The graph is for statement 1, as statement 2 can be calculated easily.
Forget about the circle, the only information we need from it, is that the 3 sides as marked in my graph are equal and we have two isosceles triangles. Just draw a perpendicular line to the diameter and we get a 90° angle and using the external angle property we can derive that the angles of a small traingle are 0.5y (see attachement)
Now, we need to add all the given angles that are equal to 180°: $$90+30+y+0.5y=180$$, we get $$y=40$$ and the angle we're looking for is equal $$0.5y=20$$
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Very tricky, I attached a color coded chart for it with an explanation of the exterior angle theorem .
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Are we not assuming ABC to be a straight line. This is not specified anywhere. If ABC is not a straight line then exterior angle theorem is invalid for triangle ABO

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Are we not assuming ABC to be a straight line. This is not specified anywhere. If ABC is not a straight line then exterior angle theorem is invalid for triangle ABO

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This is answered thrice on the previous page. I'm happy to answer again:

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Figures: All figures accompanying problem solving questions are intended to provide information useful in solving the problems. Figures are drawn as accurately as possible. Exceptions will be clearly noted. Lines shown as straight are straight, and lines that appear jagged are also straight. The positions of points, angles, regions, etc., exist in the order shown, and angle measures are greater than zero. All figures lie in a plane unless otherwise indicated.

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Figures:
• Figures conform to the information given in the question, but will not necessarily conform to the additional information given in statements (1) and (2).
• Lines shown as straight are straight, and lines that appear jagged are also straight.
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Bunuel wrote:
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Bunuel wrote:

In the figure shown, point O is the center of the semicircle and B, C, D lie on the semicircle. If the length of line segment AB is equal to the length of line segment OC, what is the degree measure of angle BAO ?

Write down everything you know from the stem:

$$BO=CO=radius=AB$$ --> triangles BOC and ABO are isosceles.
$$\angle BAO = \angle BOA$$ and $$\angle BCO = \angle CBO$$
$$\angle CBO = 2*\angle BAO$$

(1) The degree measure of angle COD is 60º:
$$\angle BAO +\angle ACO = \angle COD = 60º$$ degrees (Using exterior angle theorem)
$$\angle ACO = \angle CBO = 2* \angle BAO$$
$$So, \angle BAO + \angle ACO = 2* \angle BAO + \angle BOA = 3* \angle BAO = 60º$$
$$\angle BAO = 20º$$.
SUFFICIENT

(2) The degree measure of angle BCD is 40º:
$$\angle BCO=40º$$ --> $$\angle BCO = \angle CBO=40º = 2*\angle BAO$$ --> $$\angle BAO=20º$$.
SUFFICIENT

Answer: D.
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What property have you used Bunuel -
<CBO=2<BAO

Hope it's clear.

Hi, I thought we could not assume that the graphic is representative of the problem in a DS problem? But by using the Exterior Angle Theorem, we assume that AB is part of AC, don't we?

Thanks in advance, you have helped me a lot in my GMAT studies.
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tobnit wrote:

Hi, I thought we could not assume that the graphic is representative of the problem in a DS problem? But by using the Exterior Angle Theorem, we assume that AB is part of AC, don't we?

Thanks in advance, you have helped me a lot in my GMAT studies.

This is answered FOUR times on the previous page (last time in the post just above yours). I'm happy to answer again:

Problem Solving
Figures: All figures accompanying problem solving questions are intended to provide information useful in solving the problems. Figures are drawn as accurately as possible. Exceptions will be clearly noted. Lines shown as straight are straight, and lines that appear jagged are also straight. The positions of points, angles, regions, etc., exist in the order shown, and angle measures are greater than zero. All figures lie in a plane unless otherwise indicated.

Data Sufficiency:
Figures:
• Figures conform to the information given in the question, but will not necessarily conform to the additional information given in statements (1) and (2).
• Lines shown as straight are straight, and lines that appear jagged are also straight.
• The positions of points, angles, regions, etc., exist in the order shown, and angle measures are greater than zero.
• All figures lie in a plane unless otherwise indicated.
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So,∠BAO+∠ACO=2∗∠BAO+∠BOA=3∗∠BAO=60º

I just don't get this step in the first statement. Please help.
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Bunuel wrote:
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So,∠BAO+∠ACO=2∗∠BAO+∠BOA=3∗∠BAO=60º

I just don't get this step in the first statement. Please help.

Not sure what to add to the below.

(1) The degree measure of angle COD is 60º:

$$\angle BAO +\angle ACO = \angle COD = 60º$$ degrees (Using exterior angle theorem)

$$\angle ACO = \angle CBO = 2* \angle BAO$$

$$So, \angle BAO + \angle ACO = 2* \angle BAO + \angle BOA = 3* \angle BAO = 60º$$

$$\angle BAO = 20º$$.

Thank you for the reply Bunuel.

Now, I got the step $$\angle$$BAO + $$\angle$$ACO = 2* $$\angle$$BAO + $$\angle$$BOA

I see you're using the exterior angle theorem and at the same time substituting for the equal interior angle given it is isosceles:

$$\angle$$ACO = $$\angle$$BCO = $$\angle$$CBO = $$\angle$$OBC = 2* $$\angle$$BAO = 2* $$\angle$$BOA
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You can solve this question quickly if you do everything up front. Look at the attached diagram

The portion marked in Red are equal => AB = OC ( given in the question stem)

OB = OC ( radius)

Let Angle AOB = X

Statement 1 says COD = 60 = 3x ( as per diagram) => X=20

Statement 2 says BCO = 40 = 2x ( as per diagram) => X=20

Answer is D each statement is sufficient!

Hi, where or how did you get 3x? as shown on the diagram, thanks
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[quote="Bunuel"] In the figure shown, point O is the center of the semicircle and B, C, D lie on the semicircle. If the length of line segment AB is equal to the length of line segment OC, what is the degree measure of angle BAO ?

Write down everything you know from the stem:

$$BO=CO=radius=AB$$ --> triangles BOC and ABO are isosceles.
$$\angle BAO = \angle BOA$$ and $$\angle BCO = \angle CBO$$
$$\angle CBO = 2*\angle BAO$$ CA]] can someone explain this

(1) The degree measure of angle COD is 60º:
$$\angle BAO +\angle ACO = \angle COD = 60º$$ degrees (Using exterior angle theorem)
$$\angle ACO = \angle CBO = 2* \angle BAO$$
$$So, \angle BAO + \angle ACO = 2* \angle BAO + \angle BOA = 3* \angle BAO = 60º$$
$$\angle BAO = 20º$$.
SUFFICIENT

(2) The degree measure of angle BCO is 40º:
$$\angle BCO=40º$$ --> $$\angle BCO = \angle CBO=40º = 2*\angle BAO$$ --> $$\angle BAO=20º$$.
SUFFICIENT

Answer: D.
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Hi Kp1703,
I hope you know the below property of triangles:-

An exterior angle of a triangle is equal to the sum of the opposite interior angles.

$$\angle{CBO}$$ is an external angle of the $$\triangle{ABO}$$. Opposite interior angles of $$\angle{CBO}$$ in the $$\triangle{ABO}$$ are $$\angle{BAO}$$ and $$\angle{BOA}$$.
Therefore, $$\angle{CBO}=\angle{BAO}+\angle{BOA}$$-----------------------(1)

Now, given AB=OC. As OC=OB=radius of circle. So, AB=OB.
Hence, the corresponding angles in the $$\triangle{BAO}$$ are equal. i.e,$$\angle{BAO}=\angle{BOA}$$------------(2)

So (1) becomes, $$\angle{CBO}=\angle{BAO}+\angle{BAO}$$=$$2*\angle{BAO}$$

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PKN wrote:
Hi Kp1703,
I hope you know the below property of triangles:-

An exterior angle of a triangle is equal to the sum of the opposite interior angles.

$$\angle{CBO}$$ is an external angle of the $$\triangle{ABO}$$. Opposite interior angles of $$\angle{CBO}$$ in the $$\triangle{ABO}$$ are $$\angle{BAO}$$ and $$\angle{BOA}$$.
Therefore, $$\angle{CBO}=\angle{BAO}+\angle{BOA}$$-----------------------(1)

Now, given AB=OC. As OC=OB=radius of circle. So, AB=OB.
Hence, the corresponding angles in the $$\triangle{BAO}$$ are equal. i.e,$$\angle{BAO}=\angle{BOA}$$------------(2)

So (1) becomes, $$\angle{CBO}=\angle{BAO}+\angle{BAO}$$=$$2*\angle{BAO}$$

Hope it helps.

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Can someone explain why <CBO = 2* <BAO please?

Nevermind. Figured it out.
Bunuel wrote: In the figure shown, point O is the center of the semicircle and B, C, D lie on the semicircle. If the length of line segment AB is equal to the length of line segment OC, what is the degree measure of angle BAO ?

Write down everything you know from the stem:

$$BO=CO=radius=AB$$ --> triangles BOC and ABO are isosceles.
$$\angle BAO = \angle BOA$$ and $$\angle BCO = \angle CBO$$
$$\angle CBO = 2*\angle BAO$$

(1) The degree measure of angle COD is 60º:
$$\angle BAO +\angle ACO = \angle COD = 60º$$ degrees (Using exterior angle theorem)
$$\angle ACO = \angle CBO = 2* \angle BAO$$
$$So, \angle BAO + \angle ACO = 2* \angle BAO + \angle BOA = 3* \angle BAO = 60º$$
$$\angle BAO = 20º$$.
SUFFICIENT

(2) The degree measure of angle BCO is 40º:
$$\angle BCO=40º$$ --> $$\angle BCO = \angle CBO=40º = 2*\angle BAO$$ --> $$\angle BAO=20º$$.
SUFFICIENT

Answer: D.

More solutions at:
http://gmatclub.com:8080/forum/viewtopic.php?p=464547
http://gmatclub.com:8080/forum/viewtopic.php?p=398461
http://gmatclub.com:8080/forum/viewtopic.php?p=581082
http://gmatclub.com/forum/gmatprep-2-tr ... 76801.html
http://gmatclub.com:8080/forum/viewtopic.php?p=607910

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