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Initially I went for B, saw the explanation on the thread and agree that D is the answer.

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1) 20 % of leaves ARE
2) 20 % of leaves and stems ARE
2) 20 % of leave material IS...
3) 20 % of x, y and z MATERIAL IS..

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In the most common procedure for harvesting forage crops such as alfalfa, as much as 20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material, which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell to the ground.
(A) which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell
(B) the most nutritious of all parts of the plant, shatter and fall
(C) the parts of the plant which were most nutritious, will shatter and fall
(D) the most nutritious parts of the plant, shatters and falls
(E) parts of the plant which are the most nutritious, have shattered and fallen

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Can you kindly let us know the answer for the question coz as per me the answer should be B.
Waiting eagerly to hear from you.
Regards, Fame

Dear Fame,
I'm happy to help, my friend. :-)

I believe (B) is listed, as the OA, certainly on this page and perhaps by source, and I strongly disagree with this.

This is a very tricky point about percent. Percent of something countable (e.g. "20% of people", "20% of cars", etc.) is construed as plural --- we are talking about some number of people, some number of cars, etc. But, percent of something uncountable (e.g. "20% of the time", "20% of Earth's atmosphere", etc.) is construed as singular ---- it a single "lump" of the stuff --- a single chunk of time, a single chunk of the atmosphere, etc.

Here, it's percent of "material", an uncountable noun. This question is particularly tricky because it's "20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material" ---- "material" is uncountable, so the entire percent phrase is singular. If the wording had been "20 percent of the leaves and small-stems", those are countable, so that percent phrase would have been plural. Because the percent phrase mentions the potentially countable things (leaves, stems), I can see that many folks would be tempted to conclude that it's a percent of a countable thing, and that choice leads to what I could call the trap answer of (B). In fact, "leaf and small-stem material", and any kind of "material", is uncountable ---- we would say "how much material?", never "how many material?" ----- so, because we have a percent of something uncountable, it is construed as a singular subject and therefore demands the singular verb, which is precisely what (D) has. In my view, (D) is the best answer.

BTW, here's a recent blog that touches on some related issues:
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/gmat-sente ... ve-idioms/

The best answer is not the answer listed by the source. That, I think, is at the root of all the back-and-forth on this page. I believe the source is one of those free online question banks. Are you familiar with the sarcastic phrase, "free and worth it?" I think that's the core of the problem.

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Could you please justify why you think that "20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material" = singular ?

20% of singular = singular [agree]
20% of plural = plural [agree]
but is leaf and small-stem material = singular? WHY?
"Leaf" is noun and "material" is another noun = should be plural....?!

Dear priyankur_saha,
You are parsing this as "thing #1 and thing #2", where thing #1 = "leaf" and thing #2 = "small-stem material". I assert, though that what we have here are two kinds of material --- "leaf (material)" and "small-stem material". I point out --- "20 percent of the leaf" by itself makes no sense --- what leaf? are we talking about a single leaf on a single alfalfa plant?? That's absurd! Instead, I assert we are talking about "20 percent of the leaf (material)" and "20 percent of the .... small-stem material".

Thus, "leaf and small-stem" here is a noun modifier. The noun itself is simply "material", and this is clearly a singular noun. More to the point, it's an uncountable noun, and percents of uncountable nouns are construed as singular.

Does all this make sense?
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quesn stem says alfalfa and as much as 20% of the leaf and small stem material of the same crop ie alfalfa,hence it is not a compound subject and the singular subject becomes as much as 20% of the leaf and small stem material ----so singular shatters and falls

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quesn stem says alfalfa and as much as 20% of the leaf and small stem material of the same crop ie alfalfa,hence it is not a compound subject and the singular subject becomes as much as 20% of the leaf and small stem material ----so singular shatters and falls


Quantity words such as percentages, fractions etc. take up the number (singular / plural / uncountable) of the noun within the of prepositional phrase. For example:
Half of the pizza IS eaten. (countable - singular)
Half of the pizza slices ARE eaten.(countable - plural: one can count how many pizza slices are eaten)
Half of the milk IS eaten. (uncountable: one cannot count half of milk)

In "20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material" the noun (phrase) within the prepositional phrase is "leaf and small-stem material", 20 percent of which is uncountable. Hence a singular verb is required. (one cannot count 20 percent of leaf and small-stem material.)

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20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material is singular. Hence, D is correct (Shatters and Falls)

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In the most common procedure for harvesting forage crops such as alfalfa, as much as 20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material, which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell to the ground.

(A) which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell--->The antecedent of 'which' is 'material'. Ask Yourself,is the 'material' most nutritious of all plants? I don't think so
(B) the most nutritious of all parts of the plant, shatter and fall--->Even though 'the most common procedure' is parallel with 'the most nutritious of...' this is wordy,GMAT prefers a simple answer with a clear meaning. The sentence could have been: 'the most nutritious parts...' instead of 'the most nutritious of all parts'. Also at the end it says 'shatter and fell' this refers to 'Procedure'. 'Procedure' is 'Singular' so it should be 'shatters and falls'
(C) the parts of the plant which were most nutritious, will shatter and fall--->'Again wordy, part of the plants which were most nutritious, also the entire sentence is in in Active Voice, this would not fit the sentence as this is Passive Voice plus we don't 'shatter and fall' for 'common procedure'
(D) the most nutritious parts of the plant, shatters and falls--->Short, Concise and uses the correct Subject Verb Agreement.
(E) parts of the plant which are the most nutritious, have shattered and fallen--->'Common Procedure' is 'singular' and 'have' is plural again this out by Subject verb'

Now read the sentence by putting option (D) in it. You'll find clarity in the meaning as well as grammar .

This is how I approached the problem. Let me know if I missed out something.
Anyway I hope this helps.

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In the most common procedure for harvesting forage crops such as alfalfa, as much as 20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material, which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell to the ground.
(A) which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell
Past tense ? it is common and should be in present tense.
(B) the most nutritious of all parts of the plant, shatter and fall
(C) the parts of the plant which were most nutritious, will shatter and fall
(D) <20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material> the most nutritious parts of the plant, shatters and falls
(E) parts of the plant which are the most nutritious, have shattered and fallen
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In the most common procedure for harvesting forage crops such as alfalfa, as much as 20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material, which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell to the ground.

(A) which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell
(B) the most nutritious of all parts of the plant, shatter and fall
(C) the parts of the plant which were most nutritious, will shatter and fall
(D) the most nutritious parts of the plant, shatters and falls
(E) parts of the plant which are the most nutritious, have shattered and fallen

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In the most common procedure for harvesting forage crops such as alfalfa, as much as 20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material, the most nutritious parts of the plant, shatters and falls to the ground.

Correct answer must be (D) for the highlighted errors in other options...
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20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material is singular. Hence, D is correct (Shatters and Falls)



Yes that seems to be right, but can yuu explain the logic behind this

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In the most common procedure for harvesting forage crops such as alfalfa, as much as 20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material, which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell to the ground.
(A) which is the most nutritious of all the parts of the plant, shattered and fell
This used past Tense Incorrect

(B) the most nutritious of all parts of the plant, shatter and fall
Wrong SV Pair
(C) the parts of the plant which were most nutritious, will shatter and fall
Incorrect use of which

(D) the most nutritious parts of the plant, shatters and falls
Correct Answer- simple present used to state the facts.

(E) parts of the plant which are the most nutritious, have shattered and fallen
Wrong verb Have shattered and fallen

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20 percent of the leaf and small-stem material is singular. Hence, D is correct (Shatters and Falls)
Yes that seems to be right, but can yuu explain the logic behind this

Dear sriamlan,

I'm happy to respond. :-)

As a general rough-and-ready rule
X% of [singular] is also singular
X% of [plural] is also plural

Twenty percent of the water is . . .
Twenty percent of the students are . . .


Does this make sense?
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I'm happy to respond. :-)

The OA marked, (D), is the correct answer. I would strongly suggest reading through this entire thread to understand why this is the case.

Admittedly, this is not the highest quality SC question.

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