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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?

(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average, last year than such people did ten years ago.

(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were ten years ago.

(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly over the past ten years.

(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.

(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.

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ans C..
the argument tells us that % has gone down by 3.... but what if the no of people migrating has incr substantially.. in that case the shortage by decr of 3% is made up by overall no incr
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Correct answer is D
Anand's explaination: Guys this is a beauty. Please hammer this into your head. This is a standard percentage trap. Let me elaborate.

Assume that last year 1000 people in the US moved out of state to retire.
Of this say 10% moved to Florida = 100 people
So 90% moved to states other than Florida right?

This year 20000 people moved to other state to retire.
Of this say 8% moved to florida = 160 people.
So 92% moved to states other than Florida right?

Though the %of people moving to Florida has decreased (because %of people moving to otherstates has increased) number of people moving to Florida has infact increased from 100 to 160. So the local businesses are gonna do great.

The bold portion is what (D) says and thus weakens the argument more seriously than (C).

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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage
who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local
businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect
on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?
(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average,
last year than such people did ten years ago.
(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were
ten years ago.
(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly
over the past ten years.
(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than
it was ten years ago.
(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other
state.

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I have a slightly diff opinion abt the options..

A.Irrelevant..distance is not spoken about in the argument.
B.Irrelevant....North Carolina is not mentioned in the argument.
C.Agreed that the number of people moving to other states has increased but it cannot be assumed that the people are moving to Florida as well..hence it does not weaken the argument.
D.If at all this strengthens the argument.
E.Correct..since it speaks about Florida's ability to attract more people after they retire thus it implies that the declines will not have negative effect.

OA please..please correct me if i am wrong,.
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OA is C

now after looking at all the explanations options C D and E all are looking correct to me :?

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I've come across this question before and think I got it right by a little POE. See my explanations below.

sagarsabnis wrote:
In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage
who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local
businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect
on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?
(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average,
last year than such people did ten years ago.Out of scope.
(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were
ten years ago. Out of scope.
(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly
over the past ten years. If this is true, the number of people who moved to Florida could actually be more than last year. The passage states that the percentage, of the people who moved from one state to another, who moved to Florida decreased by 3%. This answer is stating that the sample pool (or number of people moving) has increased significantly. So, theoretically, the ACTUAL number of people who moved to FL can be more this year than it was over the past 10 years, even though that number correlates to a 3% drop in TOTAL number of people moving to another state. This would have a positive effect on FL's economy, therefore weakening the argument.
(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than
it was ten years ago.Seems to strengthen argument. The more people that leave, the more the economy of FL will suffer.
(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other
state.This says nothing about the number people actually moving to FL or the trend of movements over the past 10 years. Just because more people are attracted to FL doesn't necessarily mean they will move there IMO.

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Pereverance,

I am still in a bit of a quandry over this question and answer. Actually I do not like nay of the answers. Is this an OG question? How is C not out of scope. It tlaks about all people moving to all states. Tis is an aggregate number with no mention of Florida specifically. You have to make an assumption about the distibution of the people moving to each state and to Florida. Question C seesm to be the most plausibel it is still a stretch. Please comment. Thanks.

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I've come across this question before and think I got it right by a little POE. See my explanations below.

sagarsabnis wrote:
In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage
who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local
businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect
on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?
(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average,
last year than such people did ten years ago.Out of scope.
(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were
ten years ago. Out of scope.
(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly
over the past ten years. If this is true, the number of people who moved to Florida could actually be more than last year. The passage states that the percentage, of the people who moved from one state to another, who moved to Florida decreased by 3%. This answer is stating that the sample pool (or number of people moving) has increased significantly. So, theoretically, the ACTUAL number of people who moved to FL can be more this year than it was over the past 10 years, even though that number correlates to a 3% drop in TOTAL number of people moving to another state. This would have a positive effect on FL's economy, therefore weakening the argument.
(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than
it was ten years ago.Seems to strengthen argument. The more people that leave, the more the economy of FL will suffer.
(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other
state.This says nothing about the number people actually moving to FL or the trend of movements over the past 10 years. Just because more people are attracted to FL doesn't necessarily mean they will move there IMO.

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Rbriscoe,
I can't say with exact confidence because I came across it about a month ago and have forgotten the source, but I believe it's an OG question. The aggregate number you mention is actually mentioned in the passage:

"In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, ..."

Yes, I agree there is no mention of Florida specifically but there is a theoretical relationship between the number of people moving to Florida and the total number of people moving to different states. This is because the number of people moving to Florida is mentioned in the passage as a percentage of the total aggregate number of people moving. It says nothing about the actual number of people moving to Florida. So I wouldn't say C is out of scope. If the total number of people moving to different states has increased significantly over the past 10 years (answer C), then the actual number of people moving to Florida (because it's a percentage of total people moving) could actually have increased.

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Ok, thanks for the answer. After re-reading the question and answer and given your explaination, I understand your logic. Thanks
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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage
who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local
businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect
on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?
(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average,
last year than such people did ten years ago.
(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were
ten years ago.
(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased signifi cantly
over the past ten years.
(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than
it was ten years ago.
(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other
state.

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I vote for option C. Even though there is a drop of 3% points, if the overall population of retired people moving into Florida increases then the increase would more than offset the 3% point decrease.
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I hardly find any answer choice correct. I don't agree with C because the C refers to the increase in the retirees who move from one state to another in general. It doesn't specifically refer to Florida. I think it's a big assumption to apply that fact to Florida.
That left me with option E.

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Actually, C doesn't stink.
Consider the stimulus again:
"Of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years."

So ten years back, let's say, 100 people moved from one to another state. Let's also assume 30 of those 100 moved to Florida. In US, 30% of people who were moving after retirement, moved to Florida.

It has gone down to 27%.

What option C says is: "The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly
over the past ten years"

The total number of people who are moving has increased significantly.
So now, perhaps 200 people move from one state to another as compared to 100 of ten years back. Then 27% would be 54, still much greater than 30.
So there may not have been any negative effect, in fact there might have been a positive effect because more people are moving to Florida. Therefore, it weakens the conclusion.
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This is OG 12 question and answer indeed is C.

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Actually, C doesn't stink.
Consider the stimulus again:
"Of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years."

So ten years back, let's say, 100 people moved from one to another state. Let's also assume 30 of those 100 moved to Florida. In US, 30% of people who were moving after retirement, moved to Florida.

It has gone down to 27%.

What option C says is: "The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly
over the past ten years"

The total number of people who are moving has increased significantly.
So now, perhaps 200 people move from one state to another as compared to 100 of ten years back. Then 27% would be 54, still much greater than 30.
So there may not have been any negative effect, in fact there might have been a positive effect because more people are moving to Florida. Therefore, it weakens the conclusion.



The stimulus states "these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida."

let the number move a higher than the last year, but considerably it is a number less than would have actually moved so there could still be a negative effect.
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Actually, C doesn't stink.
Consider the stimulus again:
"Of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years."

So ten years back, let's say, 100 people moved from one to another state. Let's also assume 30 of those 100 moved to Florida. In US, 30% of people who were moving after retirement, moved to Florida.

It has gone down to 27%.

What option C says is: "The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly
over the past ten years"

The total number of people who are moving has increased significantly.
So now, perhaps 200 people move from one state to another as compared to 100 of ten years back. Then 27% would be 54, still much greater than 30.
So there may not have been any negative effect, in fact there might have been a positive effect because more people are moving to Florida. Therefore, it weakens the conclusion.



The stimulus states "these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida."

let the number move a higher than the last year, but considerably it is a number less than would have actually moved so there could still be a negative effect.


Absolutely mailnavin1, there could still be a negative effect. Since (C) says 'increased significantly'. But we do not know by how much. But the question is "which of the following weakens the argument?", not "which of the following make it false?".. Since option (C) creates a possibility that the argument might become invalid, it weakens the argument considerably.
I hope it makes more sense now.
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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage
who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local
businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect
on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?
(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average,
last year than such people did ten years ago.
(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were
ten years ago.
(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased signifi cantly
over the past ten years.
(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than
it was ten years ago.
(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state

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I thought D weakens the argument the most. So, anyone can help me with the right explanation?

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Its 180 degree answer - strengthener. By referring to the reduction in the %age points the argument is implying that the economy of Florida is in trouble.

If D is true - then we are moving forward in the direction of the conclusion. ie more exodus, less number of people retiring in Florida and subsequently troubled economy

If C is true - then it casts a doubt that the arg has confused actual number with %age. The actual number of people retiring has NOT gone down, even though the %age has gone down by couple of points. It does not matter since the economy is unswayed.

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I thought D weakens the argument the most. So, anyone can help me with the right explanation?

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