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Still did not get how answer D is correct.
D) The total number of people who retired and move to another state fro their retirement has increased significantly over the past ten years.


How does this prevent the decline and therby the negative economic impact?


This question belongs to NUMBER & STATISTIC, you should notice that the figure in the argument is only percentage (decline 3%). However, in choice D, it stated that the overall amount of target market (retirees) increase SIGNIFICANTLY. Therefore, declining 3% does not mean that reduce in the amount of target market. So, the businesses cater to retirees will not be affected adversely.

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Still did not get how answer D is correct.
D) The total number of people who retired and move to another state fro their retirement has increased significantly over the past ten years.


How does this prevent the decline and therby the negative economic impact?


This question belongs to NUMBER & STATISTIC, you should notice that the figure in the argument is only percentage (decline 3%). However, in choice D, it stated that the overall amount of target market (retirees) increase SIGNIFICANTLY. Therefore, declining 3% does not mean that reduce in the amount of target market. So, the businesses cater to retirees will not be affected adversely.

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very common trap .......number to percentage blunder.......

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Still did not get how answer D is correct.
D) The total number of people who retired and move to another state fro their retirement has increased significantly over the past ten years.


How does this prevent the decline and therby the negative economic impact?


This question belongs to NUMBER & STATISTIC, you should notice that the figure in the argument is only percentage (decline 3%). However, in choice D, it stated that the overall amount of target market (retirees) increase SIGNIFICANTLY. Therefore, declining 3% does not mean that reduce in the amount of target market. So, the businesses cater to retirees will not be affected adversely.

Hope my explanation clarifies your mind :D


I understand what you mean, but answer choice D says that "total number of people who retired and moved to another state…" but it does´t say "in Florida" that it´s the scope of the question. We are talking about local business in Florida. So, It might be possible that the total number of retirees had increased but maybe they had moved to California, so local business in Florida would be in danger.

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Still did not get how answer D is correct.
D) The total number of people who retired and move to another state fro their retirement has increased significantly over the past ten years.


How does this prevent the decline and therby the negative economic impact?


This question belongs to NUMBER & STATISTIC, you should notice that the figure in the argument is only percentage (decline 3%). However, in choice D, it stated that the overall amount of target market (retirees) increase SIGNIFICANTLY. Therefore, declining 3% does not mean that reduce in the amount of target market. So, the businesses cater to retirees will not be affected adversely.

Hope my explanation clarifies your mind :D


I understand what you mean, but answer choice D says that "total number of people who retired and moved to another state…" but it does´t say "in Florida" that it´s the scope of the question. We are talking about local business in Florida. So, It might be possible that the total number of retirees had increased but maybe they had moved to California, so local business in Florida would be in danger.


Hello Anonimo.
Breaking the argument, as pointed out, depends on understanding the possible statistical flaw involved here.
The author says "There will be a noticeable negative economic effect on these businesses"
This he says because the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years
Let's understand what this means - Out of all the retirees who retired to different locations the percentage of people who retired to florida has dropped by 3%.
For instance if the percent of retirees retiring to florida was 33% it's probably dropped to 30% now. The assumption here is that the total number of retirees now and 10 years back is more or less the same.

Lets consider that 10 years back there were 10,000 total retirees; now there are probably 20,000. Is 33% or 10,000 bigger than 30% of 20,000? NO!
This is the flaw in his argument.

Option D points out exactly this. Thus option D is Correct.

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The argument is looking at a decrease the proportion of interstate retirees who are moving to Florida, and interpreting this as something that is going to hurt Florida's businesses. the only reasonable way to process this argument is to realize that the author is confusing a percentage/proportion decrease with an absolute decrease (i.e., decrease in the actual number of retirees moving into the state), since a decrease in that actual number is the only thing that would reasonably lead to bad times for these businesses.

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Anything that separates the percentage/proportion from the actual number will be a weakener.
A. Distance is irrelevant.

B. We are concerned specifically with the number of retirees moving to Florida.

C. CORRECT
Assume that last year 1000 people retired and moved to another state. Out of these 1000 people, 100 of them move to Florida. That means, 10% of the people moved to Florida. This year, the % of the people moved to Florida decreased by 3%. That means, only 7% of the total people moved to Florida. Now, choice D states that the total number of people who retired and moved to other states increased significantly. Let us assume that a total of 10,000 people moved this year (where as it was 1000 people last year). Now, 7% of 10,000 = 700 is the number of people who moved to Florida. Even though the % decreased, the actual number of people moved to Florida increased. This would weaken the argument.

D. We are not bothered about all kinds of people. We are bothered only about retirees.

E. We are supposed to compare the two numbers that went to Florida … if there is a 3 percent point drop in this number, then whether Florida attracts the largest number among all states or the lowest number among all states … the conclusion is unaffected.

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The answer is straightforward D.


In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, this decline is likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

(A) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.
WRONG:- Strengthen the argument.

(B) The number of people who move out of Florida to accept employment in other states has increased over the past ten years.
WRONG:- Clever trap. The argument is about retiree. Any other subset of people (employed, semi-employed, etc etc) is out of scope

(C) There are far more local businesses in Florida that cater to tourists than there are local businesses that cater to retirees.
WRONG:- OUT OF SCOPE. There can be a freaking superman living in Florida for all we care. Our argument is concerned only with businesses that deals with retiree. The ratio is businesses that cater to tourist to the businesses that caters to retiree is irrelevant. Even if there is only one shop that caters to retiree, we have to think about how the decrease in retiree population will affect it. Since this Option talks nothing about whats happening to retiree .. it is out of scope.

(D) The total number of people who retired and moved to another state for their retirement has increased significantly over the past ten years.
CORRECT:- Earlier in US there were 1000 people who moved from one state of another after retirement. Out of these 50 % came to florida (meaning 500 people came to florida) Now there were 10,000 people move from one state to another and only 10 % comes to florida (meaning 10 % of 10,000=1000 people) that came to florida.
As you can see the % is decreasing but the actual number has gone up (from 500 people to 1000 people ; there is an increase of 500). This weaken the argument. Infant it kills and buries the argument 6 feet deep in the ground.

(E) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.
WRONG:- this is a strengthener



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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, this decline is likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

(A) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.
(B) The number of people who move out of Florida to accept employment in other states has increased over the past ten years.
(C) There are far more local businesses in Florida that cater to tourists than there are local businesses that cater to retirees.
(D) The total number of people who retired and moved to another state for their retirement has increased significantly over the past ten years.
(E) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.

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The answer is straightforward D.


In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, this decline is likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

(A) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.
WRONG:- Strengthen the argument.

(B) The number of people who move out of Florida to accept employment in other states has increased over the past ten years.
WRONG:- Clever trap. The argument is about retiree. Any other subset of people (employed, semi-employed, etc etc) is out of scope

(C) There are far more local businesses in Florida that cater to tourists than there are local businesses that cater to retirees.
WRONG:- OUT OF SCOPE. There can be a freaking superman living in Florida for all we care. Our argument is concerned only with businesses that deals with retiree. The ratio is businesses that cater to touristt, to the businesses that caters to retiree is irrelevant. Even if there is only one shop that caters to retiree, we have to think about how the decrease in retiree population will affect it. Since this Option talks nothing about whats happening to retiree .. it is out of scope.

(D) The total number of people who retired and moved to another state for their retirement has increased significantly over the past ten years.
CORRECT:- Earlier in US there were 1000 people who moved from one state of another after retirement. Out of these 50 % came to florida (meaning 500 people came to florida) Now there were 10,000 people move from one state to another and only 10 % comes to florida (meaning 10 % of 10,000=1000 people) that came to florida.
As you can see the % is decreasing but the actual number has gone up (from 500 people to 1000 people ; there is an increase of 500). This weaken the argument. Infant it kills and buries the argument 6 feet deep in the ground.

(E) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.
WRONG:- this is a strengthener


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In the united states, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, this decline is likely to have a noticeable negative economic effect on these businesses.

Which of the follow, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.

B) The number of people who move out of Florida to accept employment in other states has increased over the past ten years.

C) There are more local businesses in Florida that cater to tourists than there are local busineeses that cater to retirees.

D) The total number of people who retired and move to another state fro their retirement has increased significantly over the past ten years.

E) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.

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IMO D is correct
if total percentage of people moving to different states increase it will counter the decrease in % of people moving into florida.
So even if there is dip in % of people moving into florida still there can be increase in total number of people moving into florida as compared to previous year, so it ll not impact the business
A and E strengthens
B doesn't talk about retirees
C is irrelevant to argument we don't care what type business is present currently in florida we only care about the effect of retirees immigration to other states to that of businesses present in florida

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Conclusion : this decline is likely to have a noticeable negative economic effect on these businesses.
prem1 : In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years
prem2 : many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees

option D tells us that the total number of retirees who move to other states has increased.This statements totally weakens the conclusion as it could be that even the percentage of retirees moving to Florida decreases,the actual number of people is increase,i.e. previous : 6% of 100;now : 3% of 300.

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I couldn't understand the explanations here. Can somebody explain why option A is wrong?

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I couldn't understand the explanations here. Can somebody explain why option A is wrong?


I was also in a dilemma when I read all the options. This is clearly a no. & % CR question. Suppose the total no. of retired persons moving be 100 previously & now it has become 1000. Now, let the no. of retired persons moving to Florida be 10 previously & now it has become 70. See the decrease in % is 3% [ (10/100)*100 - (70/1000)*100} or {10%-7%=3%} , however there is actually an increase of actual no. ,i.e, no. of persons moving to Florida after retirement increased by 60. Hence , D hope you got it.
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To weaken that 3% drop from Question is to increase a great amount of total number.

Example: 3% of 100 vs 3% of 1000.

Choice D is correct.

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I am still not sure about the answer .
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Not sure why OA has been marked as C for this question.
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