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A is also out bcos of "when" E remains.
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In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000.

A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000
B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000


First, GMAT does not make any distinction between "comprared to" and "compared with", as such. So we cannot make any decision based on those differences.

Second if we check the construction is (simplified):
while the number of residents is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the

population when compared to 20 percent in 2000.
A) wrong. This group made up 35 percent when compared to 20 percent in 2000. We should have used compared to directly. Check the following, though not the best construction.
The number of Asians in my class [ now ]make up 50% of the class compared to 10% of the class two years back.

population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
B)wrong. Here the comma is unnecessary. Also it attempts to compare group (in terms of percentage of population) with year (2000). So not a clean construction.
this group made up 35 percent of the population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent

population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
C) wrong. Here comparing is not a gerund (not used as a noun) but a participle. Also as it is followed by comma it would try to modify the whole preceding clause. So that is wrong.

population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
D) Wrong. First wrong comparison, second improper use of like.
this group made up 35 percent of the population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent

E) Correct.

this group made up 35 percent of the population, compared with 20 percent in 2000.
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compared with - used for comparing similar things here.

the comparison is perfectly done in E.
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35% in 1910 is compared with 20% in 2010

So E is the correct answer
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compared with 20 percent in 2000..........35 percent n 1910
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In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000.
A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000
B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000

Please can some explain how to recognize the difference between compare to and compare with and also point some more questions of this type on the forum....would be of great help. Thanks.

E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000
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A question regarding "as compared to" In this particular question there is an incorrect comparison ( percent with year Option B)

But is the usage acceptable?
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A question regarding "as compared to" In this particular question there is an incorrect comparison ( percent with year Option B)

But is the usage acceptable?


If the part after "as compared to" would make sense, yes "as compared to" would be correct.

If your doubt is what's best between "compared to" and "compared with", do not worry because there is not a preferred construct: both are correct.
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Compare to is Unidiomatic.

Correct Idiom is compared with.

However do not use "compare to" vs. "compare with" to eliminate answer choices. instead, find some other criterion on which to make the decision.

lets us look at A-
A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000

the "when" here kills this answer choice.

remember that you have to read very literally.
if you read the "when" literally, then you'd be saying that the 1910 immigrant group made up 35% of the population WHEN THEY WERE COMPARED to 20 percent (of something we haven't even specified) in 2000. of course, this makes no literal sense whatsoever.


B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent

nothing to which the pronoun "it" can refer.


C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000

this is a COMMA + -ING modifier.
these modifiers modify the ENTIRE PRECEDING CLAUSE, and the verbal (in this case "comparing") is attributed to the subject of the preceding clause.
therefore, according to this answer choice, "this group" actually compared "it" (we're not sure what "it" is) with 20 percent - and did so in 2000 (even though they were in 1910).



D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent

"unlike 2000" suggests that there is a direct comparison between "this group" (the subject of the preceding sentence) and the year 2000. that's a nonparallel comparison.
also, the preposition "with" isn't parallel to anything.



E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000

valid comparison between two percentages.

note the parallel constructions "in 1910" and "in 2000", and also note the lack of the fatal alterations of meaning that exist in (a) and (c).

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In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000.
A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000
B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000

Please can some explain how to recognize the difference between compare to and compare with and also point some more questions of this type on the forum....would be of great help. Thanks.


Penn State says this:
To “compare to” is to suggest resemblances between things that have essentially different natures:

In appearance, ripples in ocean water can be compared to frosting spread on a cake.

To “compare with” is to suggest resemblances between things that have essentially similar natures:

Despite their different capacities, RAM can be compared with ROM in that both involve memory storage.

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IN A and B, "when compared..." and " as compared..." are adverb clauses, which maybe are ellipsised. we are comparing noun phrases "35 percent..." with "20 percent..." , so the use of adverb clauses are not suitable.

"when compared" and "as compared" are nearly alway wrong on gmat because they are not idiomatic.

whenever we see comparision, ask ourself " we are comparing nouns or verbs". this asking help us realize the compared elements.

"compared with/to..."is adjective phrase and must refer to a noun. "compared to/with..." can be far from the noun modified though this farness is not prefered. however, this farness is not wrong automatically. we can see this farness in many OA in many questions in og and gmatprep
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Explanation for choice E

In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000.

A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000
wrong idiom "when compared to"

B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
wrong idiom "as compared to"

C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
population cannot do the action of comparing. "Comparing ..." incorrectly modifies the preceding clause

D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
compare a percentage to year

E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000
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In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000.

A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000
B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000


compared with /compared to is never a problem on gmat.

in A, when is used for time relation. there is not such relation here 4\
as compared: is wrong. there is no time relation.
in C, comparing is done by "this group". this is not logic.
in D, with 20 percent refer to what. unclear. wrong.
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In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000.

A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000
B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000


Imo E

Split 1: Compared to VS compared with
Compared with is used to compare two similar things .
Compared to is used to show similarity between two dissimilar things


A use of " when "is wrong as it is used to modify time .
B use of when is wrong and population is compared to 2000
C present participle modifier "comparing" incorrectly modified the entire clause and does not have correct comparison.
D population is compared with 2000 use prepositional phrase starting "with" seem to suggest that there was additional population.
E correct
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A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000 => when compared to shows its true only when compared
B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent=> year is compared - as compared to is undesirable
C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000 => inocrrect usage of ,ing modifier
D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent=> unlike used incorrectly, with 20% non idiomatic
E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000=> perfect
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