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In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000.

A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000
B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000
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Here the percentage of the population in 1910 is compared with a percentage in 2000 and hence the use of compared with rather than compared to. Eliminate A and B.

In C, the group seems to be comparing, not the intended purpose of the passage, while in D, year 2000 is being compared with a percentage

E is the best
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Answer choice A and B are out as I prefer compare with.
Compared X to Y: Compare to stresses similarities.
Compared X with Y: Compare to stress differences.

C and D are out because they can be inferred to modify population.
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"Compared to" is wrong here A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000
"Compared to" is wrong here B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
"comparing it with - incorrect" C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
"unlike 2000 - incorrect ....... could have been unlike in 2000 D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000
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Thanks for that SC. It cleared me about one more concept of compared to vs. compared with.
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In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000.

A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000
B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000


I will provide OA later on. pls pm me if I forget about it.

IMO B,

A - Incorrect because 'When Compared to' is Unidiomatic.
C - Incorrect because 'It' does not have a clear antecedent ( 'It' could refer to population or group )
D - Incorrect comparison between 'Population in 1910' and '20 Percent'
E - Incorrect comparison between 'Population in 1910' and '20 Percent'

B - Correctly maintains the comparison i.e Population of the group in 1910 is compared to Population of the group in 2000. Additionally 'when' is correctly used to modify a Time Period (i.e year 2000 )
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Here the percentage of the population in 1910 is compared with a percentage in 2000 and hence the use of compared with rather than compared to. Eliminate A and B.

In C, the group seems to be comparing, not the intended purpose of the passage, while in D, year 2000 is being compared with a percentage

E is the best


I think that the GMAT ignores the traditional distinction between 'In Comparison to' and 'In comparison with'. Hence you cannot base a correct answer purely on that distinction.

Also I do not understand why do you prefer 'In comparison with' over 'In comparison to'. Even if we are considering the traditional distinction then 'In comparison to' emphasises the similarities. Since we are comparing two similar things ( i.t Percentage of Population ) I think 'In comparison to' takes preference... though I am not really sure about this.
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I think that the GMAT ignores the traditional distinction between 'In Comparison to' and 'In comparison with'. Hence you cannot base a correct answer purely on that distinction.


True, the GMAT ignores this. because a lot of reputable sources have different opinion over this. thus do not base your judgement solely on use use of this idiom. As devashish explained above there are other errors presented.
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(E) - comparison better than the other choices.

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I really doubt that the gmat will EVER require the distinction between "compare to" and "compare with" to eliminate a wrong answer.

OA is E.

A- when is wrong here
B - unnecessary use of 'it'
C - this is a COMMA + -ING modifier.
these modifiers modify the ENTIRE PRECEDING CLAUSE
D - like/unlike used to compare noun/noun phrase, also, the preposition "with" isn't parallel to anything.

E- nice and parallel in 1910 ...in 2000
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In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000.

A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000
B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000


I will provide OA later on. pls pm me if I forget about it.

IMO B,

A - Incorrect because 'When Compared to' is Unidiomatic.
C - Incorrect because 'It' does not have a clear antecedent ( 'It' could refer to population or group )
D - Incorrect comparison between 'Population in 1910' and '20 Percent'
E - Incorrect comparison between 'Population in 1910' and '20 Percent'

B - Correctly maintains the comparison i.e Population of the group in 1910 is compared to Population of the group in 2000. Additionally 'when' is correctly used to modify a Time Period (i.e year 2000 )


E is the correct answer. B compares population to a year (population as compared to 2000...). A correct usage would be '...population as compared with that of 2000...'.

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Well, I don't know...

You have 2 concepts at play here:

1. Parallel structure - a favorite theme of the GMAT
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2. Compared To (stresses similarity) and Compared With (stresses difference)

B does maintain parallel structure in terms of sequence

in 1910 35% of the pop ---- 2000 20% --- but the flaw with B is the "it" - I think it is meant to relate back to "group" and I think a reasonable interpretation may even lead you to that view --- but when stuck b/w 2 choices - one with a pronoun and one without, which seems equally right - may be better to go without the pronoun as in B

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Well, I don't know...

You have 2 concepts at play here:

1. Parallel structure - a favorite theme of the GMAT
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2. Compared To (stresses similarity) and Compared With (stresses difference)

B does maintain parallel structure in terms of sequence

in 1910 35% of the pop ---- 2000 20% --- but the flaw with B is the "it" - I think it is meant to relate back to "group" and I think a reasonable interpretation may even lead you to that view --- but when stuck b/w 2 choices - one with a pronoun and one without, which seems equally right - may be better to go without the pronoun as in B


Correct me if i'm wrong, but i was under the impression that 'compared to' is used to compare two different things and 'compare with' is used to compare two similar things. Thanks in advance!

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I think its more a matter of writing style than a grammar 'rule'. If you search on the net you will find many different explanations - just goes to show that there may be no universal standard.

But check this out - this follows "with" for differences; "to" for resemblance

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/compare ... ared-with/

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In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000.
A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000
B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000

Please can some explain how to recognize the difference between compare to and compare with and also point some more questions of this type on the forum....would be of great help. Thanks.
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I will rather totally ignore this ‘compared with’ and ‘compared to’ stuff as I understand that the GMAT is not much concerned with this trivial. But in this topic, the issue is essentially one of comparison. Let us see.

In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000. ( ideally this isn't a very perfect topic, with a comma conjugating two independent clauses)

A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000 ........ Wrong logic;
When did the comparison occur? In 1910 or in 2000? The text suggests that the comparison occurred in 1910, some 90 years earlier about something that is going to happen in 2000. What kind of logic is this?


B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent …Wrong comparison…comparing a percentage to a year

C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000. …wrong … The group did the comparing in 1910 about something that is going to happen in 2000


D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent ….. Wrong comparison; comparing a year with a percent.

E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000. Right choice; the comparison occurs in 2000

Now do you need to fall back on idiom? It is not necessar
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I will rather totally ignore this ‘compared with’ and ‘compared to’ stuff as I understand that the GMAT is not much concerned with this trivial. But in this topic, the issue is essentially one of comparison. Let us see.

In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not, in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000. ( ideally this isn't a very perfect topic, with a comma conjugating two independent clauses)

A. population when compared to 20 percent in 2000 ........ Wrong logic;
When did the comparison occur? In 1910 or in 2000? The text suggests that the comparison occurred in 1910, some 90 years earlier about something that is going to happen in 2000. What kind of logic is this?


B. population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent …Wrong comparison…comparing a percentage to a year

C. population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000. …wrong … The group did the comparing in 1910 about something that is going to happen in 2000


D. population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent ….. Wrong comparison; comparing a year with a percent.

E. population, compared with 20 percent in 2000. Right choice; the comparison occurs in 2000

Now do you need to fall back on idiom? It is not necessar


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We need to compare % to % (like things), therefore "compared with" is the correct use.

E is the best.

I agree with daagh hardly have seen GMATPrep test "compared with vs compared to". The most I have seen is "compared AS" tested where "as and to be" should not be used with compare.

Sorry if I am giving extra information and deviating from the topic.

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