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In virtually any industry, technological improvements
increase labor productivity, which is the output of
goods and services per person-hour worked. In
Parland's industries, labor productivity is significantly
higher than it is in Vergia's industries. Clearly,
therefore, Parland's industries must, on the whole, be
further advanced technologically than Vergia's are.

The argument is most vulnerable to which of the
following criticisms?

(A) It offers a conclusion that is no more than a
paraphrase of one of the pieces of information
provided in its support.

(B) It presents as evidence in support of a claim
information that is inconsistent with other
evidence presented in support of the same claim.

(C) It takes one possible cause of a condition to be
the actual cause of that condition without
considering any other possible causes.

(D) It takes a condition to be the effect of
something that happened only after the
condition already existed.

(E) It makes a distinction that presupposes the
truth of the conclusion that is to be established.



Please explain option D ? It seems so convoluted to me ..
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Can anyone please explain what "D)" means?
"(D) It takes a condition to be the effect of something that happened only after the condition already existed."

In my translation,
condition: technology improvement
effect: icrease in labor productivity
so, does it mean that there is ome some other condtion played in the role of increase in labor productivity?


And OE for D is "The argument does not mention how long Parland has had more productive labor, or when
technological improvements would have occurred"

I am not sure why OE mentions "how long..." and "when...." to justify that d) is incorrect.

question choice and OE both are just confusing.
Please someone help me understand.

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Confused between C and D
C states cause
D states effect
Why is D wrong?

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Confused between C and D
C states cause
D states effect
Why is D wrong?

Dear paidlukkha,

I'm happy to respond. :-) My friend, I am not sure if you realize that this very question is already discussed on this thread. For example, user monsoon1 asked this in his post of November 3, 2012, and in the very next post, on November 5, 2012, I responded. I suggest reading this part of the thread, and if you have question about what I've said, or if anything is unclear, please do not hesitate to ask.

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Dear,
Can anyone please explain what "D)" means?
"(D) It takes a condition to be the effect of something that happened only after the condition already existed."

In my translation,
condition: technology improvement
effect: icrease in labor productivity
so, does it mean that there is ome some other condtion played in the role of increase in labor productivity?


And OE for D is "The argument does not mention how long Parland has had more productive labor, or when
technological improvements would have occurred"

I am not sure why OE mentions "how long..." and "when...." to justify that d) is incorrect.

question choice and OE both are just confusing.
Please someone help me understand.

thanks
Andy

Dear Andy,
I'm happy to help. :-) Yes, this is a tricky official question.

Here's the text of the question again.
In virtually any industry, technological improvements increase labor productivity, which is the output of goods and services per person-hour worked. In Parland's industries, labor productivity is significantly higher than it is in Vergia's industries. Clearly, therefore, Parland's industries must, on the whole, be further advanced technologically than Vergia's are.

The argument is most vulnerable to which of the following criticisms?
(A) It offers a conclusion that is no more than a paraphrase of one of the pieces of information provided in its support.
(B) It presents as evidence in support of a claim information that is inconsistent with other evidence presented in support of the same claim.
(C) It takes one possible cause of a condition to be the actual cause of that condition without considering any other possible causes.
(D) It takes a condition to be the effect of something that happened only after the condition already existed.
(E) It makes a distinction that presupposes the truth of the conclusion that is to be established.


First, let's think about the nature of the objection that (D) holds. Here are a series of extremely bad arguments.
Faulty argument #1: The Dred Scott decision (1857) was a direct response to the election of Abraham Lincoln (1860).
Faulty argument #2: The election of Ronald Reagan (1980) was a direct result of the fall of the Berlin Wall (1989)
Faulty argument #3: By answering your question, I caused you to ask the question.
All three of these are disastrous bad arguments, and all three make the same mistake. All three of these would be vulnerable to the objection that (D) makes. In order for X to cause Y, X must come earlier in time than Y. A cause may come immediately before an effect, or there may be a gap of minutes, hours, days, or even millions of years.
Striking a match immediately causes the match to burst into flame.
Not remembering to put gas in one's car will cause the car, a few hours or few days later, to run out of gas.
A habit of cigarette smoking, started in one's teen years, cause either cancer or heart disease over the course of decades.
The Second Amendment of the US Constitution (1789) causes American citizens today to have the gun rights they have.
The separation of N & S America from Europe & Africa, 175 million years ago, cause Columbus & the 16th century explorers to find very different animals & plants in the New World and the Old World.

The cause could happen any time before the effect, but it absolutely can't happen after the effect.

That's what (D) says.
It takes a condition to be the effect of something that happened only after the condition already existed.
In other words, the argument is interpreting a certain condition to be the effect of a particular cause, but this reputed cause took place after the condition, the supposed effect, was already happening. It's a very powerful objection to a cause-effect argument if we can demonstrate that the reputed cause took place after the effect.

Why is (D) not the OA? Well, we get no information about when any of these things happened. Time isn't discussed at all. We know Parland's industries have higher labor productivity ---that's the effect the argument is trying to explain. We have no evidence about when in time Parland started using advanced technology, or whether they use it at all. (D) would be a very power objection if a time sequence were explicitly present in the argument, but it is not.

OK, let's go back to the argument.
Parland has a higher level of labor productivity than does Vergia. This difference is what we want to explain. Why does Parland have higher labor productivity?

The argument tells us that one way to increase labor productivity is to use advanced technology. Is this the absolutely only way on earth to increase labor productivity? Absolutely not! In some cases better educated or better trained workers might be more productive, or better equipment or better supplies or better materials might help. There are many things that can contribute to labor productivity, and advanced technology is one of them.

We want to explain why Parland has higher labor productivity. It could be because Parland has more advanced technology. That could be the cause, but it doesn't have to be. The argument fallaciously assumes that advanced technology must be the cause, the only cause, of Parland's higher labor productivity.

This is another very powerful objection. If I say, "Here's a case of B. Since A causes B, A must have caused this instance of B," then a very powerful objection would be simply to point out that B has other causes besides A. Yes, we all see an instance of B, but was it caused by A or C or D? We don't know, and we can't automatically assume the one cause was responsible and not the others.

This is exactly what (C) says:
It takes one possible cause of a condition to be the actual cause of that condition without considering any other possible causes.

Part of what is hard about this is the abstract wording. Part of what is challenging, though, is that you have to have a good intuitive sense about how the business world works. Presumably you are taking the GMAT so that you can get into business school. Well, if a candidate applies to business school and then, on the interview, doesn't give any evidence of understanding how the business world works, that's not going to look good. It's very important to build your understanding of how the business world works---what factors might influence labor productivity, for example. See this blog article:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2014/gmat-criti ... knowledge/

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)


It makes perfect sense Mike. I too, chose D and after reading your AWESOME explanation understood why D is wrong. K+1. I wonder how come it is a low difficulty question despite the abstract language of the answer choices.
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X is necessary condition for Y and X is a possible condition for Y are two different
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In virtually any industry, technological improvements increase labor productivity, which is the output of goods and services per person-hour worked. In Parland's industries, labor productivity is significantly higher than it is in Vergia's industries. Clearly, therefore, Parland's industries must, on the whole, be further advanced technologically than Vergia's are.

The argument is most vulnerable to which of the following criticisms?

P : Tech improvements -> increase labor productivity
P : P industry's productivity > V industry's productivity
C : P Tech improvements > V Tech improvement


Is there any other factors that may affect productivity?

(A) It offers a conclusion that is no more than a paraphrase of one of the pieces of information provided in its support.
-> Incorrect. The argument did base it's conclusion on the premise that it has suggested but did not just paraphrase.
In fact, the conclusion presumes far behind what the premise can promise.

(B) It presents as evidence in support of a claim information that is inconsistent with other evidence presented in support of the same claim.
-> Incorrect. There is no other evidence that stands against to original evidence.

(C) It takes one possible cause of a condition to be the actual cause of that condition without considering any other possible causes.
-> Correct, The arguments suggests one option that causes productivity increase but does not consider other factors in making a conclusion.

(D) It takes a condition to be the effect of something that happened only after the condition already existed.
-> This option is relevant to cause-effect type of argument and is trying to state that cause-effect should be in opposite direction.

(E) It makes a distinction that presupposes the truth of the conclusion that is to be established.
-> The argument did not presupposes any information from the conclusion. To make this option viable, the conclusion must be a very general argument, viable to opt to other arguments as well.
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In virtually any industry, technological improvements increase labor productivity, which is the output of goods and services per person-hour worked. In Parland's industries, labor productivity is significantly higher than it is in Vergia's industries. Clearly, therefore, Parland's industries must, on the whole, be further advanced technologically than Vergia's are.

Conditional reasoning:
Technological improvements - sufficient condition "X"
Increase labor productivity - necessary condition "Y"

X ---> Y the overriding point in "conditional reasoning" is that X do not lead/cause Y directly!!!
Y is only on of the passible conditions and "utterly necessary". Rather it is an indicator that necessary condition will happen or happening or happed.

Argument,
Premise: "X" (Technological improvements ) -- > "Y" (Increase labor productivity)
Conclusion "Y" (Increase labor productivity) -- >"X" (Technological improvements )

The conclusion mistake called "mistake reversal". As alluded above Y is necessary condition but not only one!

For instance,
When people take umbrella rain on the street
X (umbrella) -sufficient condition
Y (rain) - necessary condition
Thus, X (umbrella) --- > Y (rain)
Yet, Y (rain) --//--> X (umbrella)
What if I forgot umbrella? What if I do not have an umbrella?

There are only 2 plausible scenarios:
X (umbrella) --- > Y (rain)
and contrapositive
No Y (rain) --- > No X (umbrella)


In sum, the only answer that fix "mistake reversal" issue is C:

(C) It takes one possible cause of a condition to be the actual cause of that condition without considering any other possible causes.
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I am confused by the wording "that condition" in the correct answer choice. Does "that condition" refer to the condition of Vergia having a much higher labor productivity? Thank you in advance.
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Parland vs. Vergia



Step 1: Identify the Question

The wording vulnerable to … criticisms in the question stem indicates that this is a Find the Flaw question. The argument must have a flawed assumption somewhere, so try to spot it while you deconstruct the argument.

Step 2: Deconstruct the Argument

The argument begins by establishing that tech improvements increase labor productivity (i.e., the output that people produce per hour of work) and that Parland has higher labor productivity than does Vergia. The argument concludes that Parland must therefore be more technologically advanced than Vergia.

TechImpr → LabProd↑

LabProd: in Par > in Ver

© Par more tech advanced than Ver

You’re expected to accept as true the maxim stated in the first sentence: that tech improvements lead to better labor productivity. In terms of comparing Parland (P) and Vergia (V), though, the only premise given is that P has higher labor productivity than V. Is it possible that labor productivity could be high, independently of technological improvements? Sure. The argument does not state that the only way to increase labor productivity is to first have high tech; there could be another explanation for P’s higher labor productivity.

Step 3: Pause and State the Goal

On Flaw questions, the goal is to uncover a flawed assumption made by the argument. In this case, the author assumes that the only way to increase labor productivity is to first have technological improvements, but the argument doesn’t say this. Rather, the argument says that if you have high tech, then you will also increase labor productivity—but it provides no information about whether there are other ways to increase labor productivity.

Step 4: Work from Wrong to Right

(A) The conclusion goes beyond paraphrasing one of the premises. It concludes something about the relative levels of technological advancement of the two areas; the premises don’t provide any information about technological advancement levels in P and V.

(B) The first piece of evidence, found in the first sentence, is a general maxim about the relationship between tech improvements and labor productivity. The second piece of evidence, found in the second sentence, compares labor productivity in two different regions. The second piece of evidence does not contradict or even directly address the first piece of evidence.

(C) CORRECT. This is the flaw! The author assumes that tech improvements are the only way to improve labor productivity. While this is certainly one possible cause of increased labor productivity, it is not necessarily the only way to improve labor productivity.

(D) This choice says that there’s a flaw in the cause-effect order of information—that is, that the stated cause of something didn’t actually occur before the effect but rather occurred afterwards. The argument does not reverse the order of cause-effect. It is true that tech improvements (cause) lead to labor productivity (effect) and the conclusion relies on that same order: that P’s higher labor productivity indicates that P’s industries must have been more technologically advanced in the first place.

(E) This choice is describing circular logic, in which the author would have already assumed the conclusion to be true when establishing the premises in the first place. The two premises in the argument, however, are just facts. They do not require the conclusion to be true, nor do they already assume that the conclusion is true.
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avigutman - Per my understanding - (D) is saying the following

Quote:
Y = condition
X = something that happened

After Y already existed, X is the cause of Y


I dont see anything fundamnetally wrong in saying X is the cause of Y (Even after Y already existed)

I ask because many experts are eliminating just on this fact along THAT it is not possible for X to be the cause of Y (even after Y already existed)

'Assigning' a cause AFTER the event has already happened is very common in fact.

Originally posted by jabhatta2 on 23 Mar 2022, 10:27.
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For example ...a historian will do this 'AFTER' peace in Western Europe existed.

Y= Peace in Western Europe existed
X= Downfall of Nazi Germany

After peace in Western Europe existed, historians will say that -- X was the reason for Y.
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For example ...a historian will do this 'AFTER' peace in Western Europe existed.

Y= Peace in Western Europe existed
X= Downfall of Nazi Germany

After peace in Western Europe existed, historians will say that -- X was the reason for Y.


jabhatta2 Historians saying something after the fact might CAUSE their student to fall asleep, but it won’t cause the fact itself. The fact itself already happened in the past.

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avigutman wrote:
jabhatta2 wrote:
For example ...a historian will do this 'AFTER' peace in Western Europe existed.

Y= Peace in Western Europe existed
X= Downfall of Nazi Germany

After peace in Western Europe existed, historians will say that -- X was the reason for Y.


jabhatta2 Historians saying something after the fact might CAUSE their student to fall asleep, but it won’t cause the fact itself. The fact itself already happened in the past.

Posted from my mobile device


Sorry avigutman - i dont understand. I think the red must have been another train of thought - students falling asleep ?
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avigutman wrote:
jabhatta2 wrote:
For example ...a historian will do this 'AFTER' peace in Western Europe existed.

Y= Peace in Western Europe existed
X= Downfall of Nazi Germany

After peace in Western Europe existed, historians will say that -- X was the reason for Y.


jabhatta2 Historians saying something after the fact might CAUSE their student to fall asleep, but it won’t cause the fact itself. The fact itself already happened in the past.

Posted from my mobile device


Sorry avigutman - i dont understand. I think the red must have been another train of thought - students falling asleep ?


jabhatta2 Just giving you an example of something the historians could have actually caused. They didn’t cause the peace.
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Hi avigutman - please ignore previous q's. I think i shot completely off track. So please ignore anything previously

How would you interpret (D) between these 2 options

X = condition

Option D is implying the following -->
Quote:
(i)
Only after X already existed, the author says
(a) Y leads to X


OR
Option D is implying the following (almost same but slight difference) -->
Quote:
(ii)
Only after X already existed, the author says
(a) Y definitely happened after X
(b) Y leads to X
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