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# In Winters v. United States (1908), the Supreme Court held t

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14 Dec 2013, 13:17
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Can anyone explain why #2 is C?
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15 Dec 2013, 10:49
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Tough one. This question is testing your Critical Reasoning skills more than anything. The question asks: if X (criteria discussed in lines 16-32), then what MUST BE TRUE? Therefore, approach it as if it were a MUST BE TRUE Critical reasoning question.

What are the premises?

Everything stated in X - the criterias(!):

To guarantee water rights, the land needs to...

(1) the land in question lies within an enclave under exclusive federal jurisdiction,
(2) the land has been formally withdrawn from federal public lands — i.e., withdrawn from the stock of federal lands available for private use under federal land use laws — and set aside or reserved, and
(3) the circumstances reveal the government intended to reserve water as well as land when establishing the reservation.

Now, take a look a at what answer C says (the conclusion):

C. There would be no legal basis for the water rights of the Rio Grande pueblos. - Wait a minute! The second paragraph says that the Rio Grande Pueblo "never formally constituted a part of federal public land". Now look at what premise (1) states. Therefore, Rio Grande Pueblos would never be awarted water rights, as they were not part of a federal jurisdiction.

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11 Jul 2014, 12:20
Hello,
a Little out of the subject, but what does V refer to in "In Winters v. United States (1908)"?
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12 Sep 2014, 22:49
Got 3/4 right in 9 mins..Dint understand the passage at all..! Guessed 2 answers and got the first question right and 2nd one wrong..! the third answer was well stated in the passage..and for the last one,was able to luckily understand the gist of passage..!IMO,the author wasnt arugueing or questioning any thing..he was totally in charge of the passage,and explaining or discussing facts and his point of view about these facts..!I should say,2/4 is wat i really deserve.
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21 Sep 2014, 05:34
Ok, this one is 'hands down' the toughest read ever according to me.

if anyone managed to crack it in terms of getting the flow, please share.

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21 Sep 2014, 05:37
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Ok, this one is 'hands down' the toughest read ever according to me.

if anyone managed to crack it in terms of getting the flow, please share.

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Absolutely right..!i was unable to infer y i dintunderstand the passage well..u spotted it right..! the flow of passage was the concern..thanks for pointing that out..!
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21 Sep 2014, 12:04
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earnit wrote:
Ok, this one is 'hands down' the toughest read ever according to me.

if anyone managed to crack it in terms of getting the flow, please share.

Total KO !

Absolutely right..!i was unable to infer y i dintunderstand the passage well..u spotted it right..! the flow of passage was the concern..thanks for pointing that out..!

I hope someone can shed some light on how the above passage is structured.
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23 Sep 2014, 01:25
Worked through it while I was solving RC passages from OG 2015 (q56-q62). I think I died a little inside after solving this one. 2/7 (
Here I was thinking RC is my strongest suit among all the verbal topics.
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23 Sep 2014, 01:32
ayushgupta1989@gmail.com wrote:
Worked through it while I was solving RC passages from OG 2015 (q56-q62). I think I died a little inside after solving this one. 2/7 (
Here I was thinking RC is my strongest suit among all the verbal topics.

Haha. This was kind of funny. ayush, i certainly believe that your analysis that RC is your forte stands correct because a one off passage shouldn't really move your foundations. This passage is indeed very twisted so in all fairness, i think if you want to test yourself, go ahead with a set of 5 700+ passages and then you will be in a good position to judge yourself. Cheers!
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23 Sep 2014, 01:42
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ayushgupta1989@gmail.com wrote:
Worked through it while I was solving RC passages from OG 2015 (q56-q62). I think I died a little inside after solving this one. 2/7 (
Here I was thinking RC is my strongest suit among all the verbal topics.

Haha. This was kind of funny. ayush, i certainly believe that your analysis that RC is your forte stands correct because a one off passage shouldn't really move your foundations. This passage is indeed very twisted so in all fairness, i think if you want to test yourself, go ahead with a set of 5 700+ passages and then you will be in a good position to judge yourself. Cheers!

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ayushgupta1989@gmail.com wrote:
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ayushgupta1989@gmail.com wrote:
Worked through it while I was solving RC passages from OG 2015 (q56-q62). I think I died a little inside after solving this one. 2/7 (
Here I was thinking RC is my strongest suit among all the verbal topics.

Haha. This was kind of funny. ayush, i certainly believe that your analysis that RC is your forte stands correct because a one off passage shouldn't really move your foundations. This passage is indeed very twisted so in all fairness, i think if you want to test yourself, go ahead with a set of 5 700+ passages and then you will be in a good position to judge yourself. Cheers!

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This one was a bummer!!! the toughest of the lot. I pray to god i see many such RC passages on the test.
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This one was a bummer!!! the toughest of the lot. I pray to god i see many such RC passages on the test.

Hey mate, you pray to god that u want to see many such RC's !! u cant be serious
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U want to see easier rc? I have a suggestion , get 15 first verbal wrong and the rest of the test would be a breezer:D

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U want to see easier rc? I have a suggestion , get 15 first verbal wrong and the rest of the test would be a breezer:D

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Well,i dont want 780 or 800..700 would suffice me..dont u think this one would be 750 level ?? u can read my earlier post..though i got almost all of them rite,i was not at all sure while selecting half of the answers..!!
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30 Dec 2014, 11:05
ayushgupta1989@gmail.com wrote:
Worked through it while I was solving RC passages from OG 2015 (q56-q62). I think I died a little inside after solving this one. 2/7 (
Here I was thinking RC is my strongest suit among all the verbal topics.

Same here mate. I got a very similar RC in my real GMAT but the topic was psychology,and boy I knew the moment I saw it that this will be my downfall. I got the same feeling solving this one, and got 2/7 correct as well. I can just hope not to see something similar on my next attempt.
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30 Sep 2015, 22:09
Some passages just knock you off and this was one of those. Even after rereading, I could hardly get everything that was happening in the passage. If anyone can guide how to handle such passages it'd be very helpful.
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30 Oct 2015, 04:38
By far the toughest RC I have ever seen. Will probably have to spend one hour on review. Crazy passage. But I actually think I would perform better on topics like that on the real GMAT. Doing this at home with a bit comfortable and relaxed approach is the worst approach possible. Too tough, so one really has to focus all his energy in this one.

Great lesson and glad to see I wasn't the only one struggling
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18 Dec 2015, 08:10
hey folks, I got a few answers wrong and truly I'm shocked , coz thats never happen!

So wanted to know is the source and which category is this?? Like is it humanities or legal stuff ... thats kinda.
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02 May 2016, 11:04
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This was one of the most toughest RCs, I ever had. Pretty tough at least for me. Below mentioned are my answers, please confirm the OAs.

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A or D. I am more inclined towards A.
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Hi Experts,
I am not getting what the passage is trying to convey.

And how Arizona v. California related to entire passage, not getting this pls pls help.
I read OE still not getting meaning.
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