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19 Dec 2008, 17:38
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Didn't have a clear idea on the admit situation for desis.. Hence, thought of starting a thread.

Desi = Indian national (No GC, No dual citizenship)

Schools applied:
Results: xxx (admit), yyy (ding), zzz (waiting)
Brief profile: age, education, school (IIT, REC, non IIT/ non REC/MS etc...), GMAT, WE, type of WE (IT, sales etc..)
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15 Jan 2009, 11:34
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now that i am finally off my stupid self imposed restriction on posting i'd like to share my story so far with you guys..

I'm an Indian female from India (cldn't get "desier" than this right!!)

i started this entire process in 2007.. took the gmat and scored a 690. back then i was sure that I wanted to be at Ross but felt that I was not quite there.. i decided to wait for a yr..went in for a career transition from IT to Consulting to get a better perspective and experience in my career goals (social enterprise) and simultaneously pursued my passion in this field.

Come early 2008, i retook the gmat only to see 690 on the screen again.Needless to say coming from a demographic pool averaging at around 720-730 i was pretty distraught with my repeat performance but i still decided to go ahead with it.

I started out the application season with 4 schools but the more I researched, the more students I reached out to, and the clarity and conviction I formed regarding my post mba goals made eliminations very easy. Although I had started with all 4 applications (online form, recos in and essays nearly done) I decided to go in only with 2 of them - Johnson and Ross. MBA was imperitive, but the right school was even more imperitive hence I decided against casting a wide net and settling for something lesser.

During this period I got shortlisted for the Reliance Schol. at Stanford as well. This app. was just meant to be a practice for essay writing and the first draft of my resume but nonetheless I was ecstatic and pretty pumped up at just being shortlisted. I never really planned to submit the stanford app (sometimes I thought I was being realistic..sometimes it was utter laziness)

Coming onto Cornell and Ross...I'm sure I could not write better essays than the current ones. I had given ample thought to each essay, very specific career goals, a lot of details and a lot of iterations after multiple reviews. I also spent good time over the general application and made sure that I presented a complete picture.

The result - interview invites at both Ross and Johnson.

Johnson was a 90 minute conversation that I thoroughly enjoyed though in hindsight there were a few questions i could have answered better. Ross I thought was a disaster because I just could not connect with my interviewer.

So where am I today - I have a waitlist both at Ross and at Johnson.

I understand its a very competetive year and a not so good period for internationals but I also understand that if I work hard on some of my shortcomings I can definitely convert this wait list and that is precisely what I have started doing.

So why did I take your 50 seconds and make u read so much-- just to reiterate that with a 690, 4 yrs of work ex (at matriculation), around a 3.3 gpa (engg.) frm a decent Indian univ (not an IIT or REC) one can still be in the race for a good school.

I definitely hope I have a podium finish for my sake and for the others who think a 740 , IIT degree, 3.6 gpa is imperitive to make it to a good school.
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24 Dec 2008, 06:53
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Thanks BSD! I am trying my level best. But the problem is that dont have any relative in US. And being a co-signor means, if I dont pay he'll have to pay ( someone correct me if I am wrong), or simply their credit limit will be constrained. So, it is improbable to find someone willing to take this risk.

Can someone please share all the clauses and responsibilities of being a co-signor. That will be very helpful.

I can fully empathise with your situation, am in the same boat with Duke admit. Of late, Duke has committed that in case its not able to arrange for loans, I can defer my admission.

In US, becoming a cosigner has several repurcussions :
1) The cosigner becomes liable to payback the loan in case you default. Frankly, this is a minor issue as the cosigner has a good idea of your abilities and school's reputation. Moreover, you and I will try our best not to default..desi genes I say.

2) The more serious issue is that the loan shows as debt on the cosigner's credit report, which may seriously dent his chances of securing loans for himself/his family for such purposes as house, education of child.

Though I know couple of people in US, I am wary of asking them because of 2).

Further, its really ironic and funny that schools such as Wharton are urging admits to arrange for funds from their home country. So much about diversity !!
I guess as of now only K/Chi/HBS are guaranteeing loans w/o cosigner. Hats off to these schools !!

@wooster..your decision makes sense to me. One of my fellow admits has decided to go ahead with ISB, solely because of the loan issue.
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25 Dec 2008, 12:14
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From 690-760:

One of my GMATclub friends suggested that I post a write-up about my GMAT journey. I will also chip-in my MBA journey and personal life along the way Hope this inspires some.

The first time I ever took the GMAT was in April 2006 and I scored a 690. I was unhappy as I expected to score a 710 and more so because, a the impression a 690 creates is very different from a 700; the human brain is funny I thought taking the GMAT again but never got around to that because of busy work life and laziness. I sent in my apps for Fall 2008 and got dinged at all schools without interviews. I got my profile reviewed by couple of guys in gmatclub and the possible reasons were lower GMAT score for an Indian, only 3 years WE, and essays needed a better underlying story-they were only experiences at that point!

Anyway, by Feb 2007, I reminded myself that with only 3 years of WE I was only testing the waters for Fall 09 program. I decided to retake the GMAT and bump it up to a possible 730-740. Work was hectic all through summer and Fall this year but, I prepared everyday for a couple of months, did a LOT of practice Qs and tests. IMO, the only books most people need are
Official Guide,
Kaplan GMAT 800 (the toughest Qs),
GMAT verbal (personal choice),
Power Prep software (2 tests)
Manhattan CATS (http://www.manhattangmat.com/Store.cfm $39) - you can find an online coupon to get it for$26
Personally, I liked Manhattan CATs a lot for 2 reasons, the next closest thing to power prep software.

Regarding the preparation, I found a website called GMAT Tutor (http://www.gmattutor.com/gameplan.html) They have few study plans you can choose from. I customized the 300 hour game plan. Personally, I like a study plan for obvious reasons. I skipped all the LSAT material.
The first time around I got a split of 47/38 and my goal was 50/40

while (!target_score_not_achieved) | (time_available)
{
1. Take a power prep Test and find your current score and weak areas.
2. Improve those areas with preparation material
3. Practice, practice, practice (GMAT is a test which can be mastered with practice)
}

The week of the test, I retook the official tests 4 times as this helps me get accustomed to the interface and the actual test was like a practice test. On the day of the exam, I selected a time of 3:00 pm. I took a banana for a quick snack between the sections. I scored around 730-760 on the practice tests in Manhattan CATs and official software. The real GMAT was a breeze, I finished the verbal section with 35 min to go. It was very gratifying to see a 760 flash on the screen 3 weeks, after my GMAT i got engaged I came back from India, and the next 2 months flew by applying for schools. I will get married in summer 2009 and most of these days, I keep thinking oh how to make the most of first year of marriage and MBA That should be fun!

Thanks for reading and good luck with whatever you are doing.
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02 Feb 2009, 22:04
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It seems, Duke has found alternative no-cosigner loan for internationals.

Now it seems apart from Tuck and Ross, most top schools have found way out
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19 Dec 2008, 17:49
Schools applied: Duke, Tepper, Ross, Cornell, Goizueta, Kellogg (not sure at this point)
Results: Duke (ding), Tepper (ding), Ross (waiting for result), Cornell (waiting for interview), Goizueta (waiting for result)
Brief profile: 30, B.E. - non IIT/ non REC, but a reputed university in India, 740, 8yrs, IT, Leading onsite and offshore teams, bunch of ECs.
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19 Dec 2008, 18:02
I got this idea yesterday,after the Duke ding to figure out how rest of the desis are doing.Glad you opened one.

Profile:Indian/IT/Male/27 yrs/750/Engg from a good univ/MS(3.6)/3.5 yrs exp.

Significant leadership and ECs.

School:Duke
Status:Ding.
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19 Dec 2008, 18:35
Profile:Indian/IT/Female/28 yrs/680/Engg from a good univ(NonIIT/nonREC)-University First/MS(4.0)/5 yrs exp by Aug 2009.

Schools:NYU Stern PT (Accepted), Duke (Accepted), Tepper (WL), Darden(Waiting for Interview)
Withdrawing Tepper & Darden in few days.
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19 Dec 2008, 22:39
Profile:Indian/Male/24 yrs/750/Engg from a good univ/2.5 yrs exp.

Significant leadership and ECs.

School:Wharton
Status:Accepted and matriculating!

School: Cornell
Status: Accepted

School: Columbia
Status: Ding

School: Stern
Status: Withdrawn

School: Yale
Status: Withdrawn
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20 Dec 2008, 03:45
sterny wrote:
Profile:Indian/Male/24 yrs/750/Engg from a good univ/2.5 yrs exp.

Significant leadership and ECs.

School:Wharton
Status:Accepted and matriculating!

School: Cornell
Status: Accepted

School: Columbia
Status: Ding

School: Stern
Status: Withdrawn

School: Yale
Status: Withdrawn

Congrats on Wharton!

I have seen many candidate "withdrawing" their applications. I've not really understood the concept? Haven't you already paid for application/spent too many hours on the essays? So why withdraw..

Shed some light, please.
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20 Dec 2008, 07:36
Im not indian, white as Wonder bread. But I was curious what "desi" meant so I came over to check it out.

As to the questions of withdrawing applications. If you get into your dream school and there isn't any amount of money that could pull you away from that decision, then out of general curtesy for the adcom staffs and applicants at other schools, you should withdraw your application. It lets the adcoms move on to another application, and opens a spot for someone else who dream school might be the very one you are withdrawing your application from.
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20 Dec 2008, 12:04
Noticed this thread just now and I think it is a good idea. aakashganga +1

Schools applied: Tuck, Ross, Duke, Tepper, ISB, UNC, Georgetown
Results: Tuck (ding), Duke (ding), Tepper (ding), Ross (waiting for result), UNC (waiting for result), Georgetown (will be applying soon)
Brief profile: 27, B.E. - Mumbai University, 720, 6.5yrs, IT, Project Leadership experiences, modest ECs.
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20 Dec 2008, 20:13
domtri33 wrote:
Im not indian, white as Wonder bread. But I was curious what "desi" meant so I came over to check it out.

"Desi" means "country" in Hindi (I share your Wonder Bread complexion).
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20 Dec 2008, 20:24
Thanks!! Learn something new everyday.
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21 Dec 2008, 05:42
Hey,

Nice idea for a thread. I havent really been active on GMATClub since my GMAT.
Here is my profile and current statuses ->

Profile:Indian/IT/Male/25 yrs/760/Engg from BIT Mesra/3 yrs exp. (2yrs Onsite France)

Some leadership and good ECs.

School: Columbia
Status: Ding

School: Wharton
Status: Waitlist

School: Kelloggs
Status: Interview Done
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22 Dec 2008, 06:51
Hey,

Nice idea indeed.
Profile:Indian/IT/Male/27 yrs/750/B.Tech. IIT/6 yrs at matriculation
1 yr onsite/ modest ECs.

School: Duke
Status: Accepted and Matriculating

School: Darden
Status: Invited for interview; withdrawn.
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22 Dec 2008, 07:23
Hi All,

Here goes...

Profile:Indian/Telecom/Male/27 yrs/740/B.E - private college good scores/3.76 GPA MS/4.5 yrs FT in Fall 09 +1.5 yrs internships/national squash/district badminton and basketball/traveller throughout
Good ECs, community involvement

School: Duke
Status: WL then DING

School: Tepper
Status: WL

School: Cornell
Status: Waiting for interview

School: UT
Status: Waiting for interview

School: Ross
Status: In the process of applying

School: Columbia
Status: In the process of applying
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22 Dec 2008, 12:26
Hey

Good to know we have a dedicated "for Indians" thread.

Had applied to Wharton, Booth, LBS, Stern, Stanford, ISB in R1

Status check : Wharton (WL ), Booth (Dinged ), LBS (WL ), Stern (Waiting for IV invite), Stanford (Waiting for IV invite as a reliance fellow) and ISB (Admitted )

My profile : M/730/Mech Eng./3 years in Corp Finance background

Waitlist is going to be a huge patience tester over the next few months plannin my R2 very carefully now

All the best to others on the thread.....

CHEERS
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22 Dec 2008, 12:58
Good idea to start a desi thread:)

Schools applied: Booth, Ross, Duke, Tepper, UNC, Emory
Results: Booth (ding), Duke (ding), Tepper (Yet to submit R2), Ross (waiting for result), UNC (Admitted), Emory (applied, no interview yet)
Brief profile: 29, Female, B.Tech.(NIT), 710, 5.5yrs, IT, Project Leadership experiences, modest ECs.
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22 Dec 2008, 16:48
vmh - do you mind if I add you to the LBS list on the LBS applicants thread : 106-t70701

Come around and register your interest - we've got a good crowd going.

vmh wrote:
Hey

Good to know we have a dedicated "for Indians" thread.

Had applied to Wharton, Booth, LBS, Stern, Stanford, ISB in R1

Status check : Wharton (WL ), Booth (Dinged ), LBS (WL ), Stern (Waiting for IV invite), Stanford (Waiting for IV invite as a reliance fellow) and ISB (Admitted )

My profile : M/730/Mech Eng./3 years in Corp Finance background

Waitlist is going to be a huge patience tester over the next few months plannin my R2 very carefully now

All the best to others on the thread.....

CHEERS
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