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29 Mar 2008, 11:21
Would love to know how many of us are planning on reapplying (or applying for the first time) for the Fall 2009 class?

I have not yet made up my mind since R1 is just a few months away but if I feel there was something wrong with my essays then I will definitely jump back into the fray. If the dings happened primarily due to my profile then I will take a break from this process for a couple of years atleast and maybe look at an EMBA a few years down the line.
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30 Mar 2008, 19:06
A question for those who finished their Masters in the US.

Did you use CPT/OPT during Masters? Will that be deducted from the available CPT/OPT for MBA ?
I just heard someone talk about it but wasnt sure how true it is.
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30 Mar 2008, 19:28
Holy Crap this thread is sobering.. Here I had grand visions of doing something in Fall 2009, with what I thought was a decent GMAT score .

I graduated out of a non-IIT school,
MS in EE.
I work in IC design. (kinda off beat I guess)
GMAT 730 (I got a 45 in quants!)
Got myself up the ladder in my group but nothing extraordinary.

By the looks of it, I have next to zero chance on getting into a top5 school !!. This blows. Maybe should retake the GMAT?
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30 Mar 2008, 19:33
parsifal wrote:
A question for those who finished their Masters in the US.

Did you use CPT/OPT during Masters? Will that be deducted from the available CPT/OPT for MBA ?
I just heard someone talk about it but wasnt sure how true it is.

Yes, if you applied for a 12 month EAD & used only part of it, you could use the remaining duration after MBA.
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30 Mar 2008, 19:59
lol. You have no idea.
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...IC design. (kinda off beat I guess)
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30 Mar 2008, 21:32
daszero, I would say that top 5 schools are generally tough for Indian applicants, and more so for Male applicants from electronics/electrical/engineering/chip design/soft dev/IT etc pool.

I read some essays while helping applicants this year and I would say IC/chip design etc is a very common experience in the Indian demographic. I personally read essays from at least 10 people with this background. I cant imagine how many such essays, ad-coms at the top 5 schools read.

Differentiating yourself is the key that will open the doors at the top B-schools.
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31 Mar 2008, 06:15
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daszero: Our profiles are pretty similar. Given the sheer number of Indian applicants, I am sure we'll find a many more HW engrs. That shouldn't dishearten you, these stats are just a part of the application.

Thanks svrider, I somehow figured that all applicants were on an even keel but its no surprise that business schools want diversity in their incoming class. My profile is rather similar to yours, except for that I will 4 or so years of experience at application time.

daszero, I would say that top 5 schools are generally tough for Indian applicants, and more so for Male applicants from electronics/electrical/engineering/chip design/soft dev/IT etc pool.

I read some essays while helping applicants this year and I would say IC/chip design etc is a very common experience in the Indian demographic. I personally read essays from at least 10 people with this background. I cant imagine how many such essays, ad-coms at the top 5 schools read.

Differentiating yourself is the key that will open the doors at the top B-schools.

The differentiation is where its at, no doubt. Besides what does knowing to design Analog circuits have anything to do with business school, anyway. As for differentiation points, thus far, I can come up with, still wanna be a ski-bum someday (I am pretty sure thats gonna fly great) and I listen to way more hip-hop than the next guy. . But I understand what you are saying. Time to work on the whole package.
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13 May 2008, 06:16
Zicklin school of business is my next destination...

Good to see old timers here
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13 May 2008, 13:41
Wow. I didn't see this until now. Congrats Oz!

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Zicklin school of business is my next destination...

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13 May 2008, 14:28
hopefully we will be able to start a new one for all the applicants for next fall. Any ideas and lessons learned will be much appreciated.
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13 May 2008, 17:40
Wow. I didn't see this until now. Congrats Oz!

Thanks buddy...
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13 May 2008, 20:54
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hopefully we will be able to start a new one for all the applicants for next fall. Any ideas and lessons learned will be much appreciated.

Come on 09-ers, make us proud! NC has already given some great insights into the challenges that we desis face at the top schools. I just have a few things to add about interviews - things that I learned a little later along the process.

It's OK to boast (a little):

Generally, while talking, we desis (especially those who studied and worked in India) have a tendency of being a little discrete about our achievements and successes. We do fine on paper with the essays, but when it comes to the interviews, I feel we do not play up our achievements for all they are worth. On the other hands, Americans are very upfront about it and they expect us to tell them how great we are - something we are not used to. Of course, this doesn't mean that we should all become narcissists! Just ensure that you clearly communicate your successes and what you did to contribute without holding back.

Show, don't tell (even in the interview)

Something else that I realized during my R-1 postmortem (and corrected it in R-2) was the fact that in most instances, I was 'mentioning' my achievements and not really elaborating them. Definitely not a good idea! In the later interviews, I would mention the achievement, then talk about something specific about it - either a particular incident or how that experience itself has contributed to my well-roundedness. Most interviewers give applicants a fair amount of leeway in guiding the discussions. So take advantage of this and give anecdotes to 'show' (and not just 'tell') your strengths.

The power of anecdotes

Personal experience are just that - personal. They make your interview a lot more personal and less scripted. The anecdote, being your's and therefore unique, will stand out from the usual drivel that interviewers constantly hear. Told well, a good anecdote will definitely pique the interviewer's interest in you. Another great thing that I noticed about anecdotes was that while telling them during the interviews, I automatically became more comfortable and was able to build up a stronger rapport with the interviewer. Sometimes the interviewer would pitch in with something similar from his own personal experience and we would really take off on a great conversation from there.

There! I hope this helps some of the 09 desis. All the best!
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27 May 2008, 10:30
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In at MIT Sloan.
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28 May 2008, 11:21
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In at MIT Sloan.

Congrats man
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13 Jun 2008, 19:37
pandeyrav wrote:
Are there any business model competitions open to non students at any of the B-Schools ? I have some ideas and am thinking of entering at competitions. If i win, it will only add to my application and some more credibility. Any ideas ?

Several competitions require that at least one person is a school student. So you could pair / group with a student or group of students and participate.

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01 Jul 2008, 12:05
toDoorNot wrote:
Diya,

Do consider your long term goal for doing an MBA. If you are switching careers, then doing an MBA from a top school is important. Also, you dont want to spend time and money in school and come out being no better employable than before.

Coming from the same applicant pool of Indian/IT/Female, i think we no longer have the edge of "Female" tag.

Well, I think stanford does give this edge to females....my 2 cents...
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05 Jul 2008, 03:41
Anybody from Hyderabad applying to GSB this fall? I am in town (till Aug15th), so give me a shout if you wanna catch up for a drink sometime and discuss your app strategy....actually, just pm me if you are in Hyd and thinking about bschool in general..
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01 Aug 2008, 21:27
I think OG is a good start. For Sentence Correction and for basic math concepts, the Manhattan GMAT series of books are pretty good. Oficial guide(OG) by itself is insufficient from an exam stand point. How long you need to prepare really depends on what level you are at, right now. Take the diagnostic test in the OG book and see where you stand. Study at a steady pace and dont take extended breaks while studying. If you dont maintain a good rythm, you run the risk of unlearning what you have learnt.

Also, post your question in the GMAT forum. You will get some good tips from the folks there. The following thread should help. Good luck with your studies!

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ashudce wrote:
Hi NC,
I am a newbee and am quite impressed by your commitment and profile.
1. How far can Official guide take you? Do we need additional material to study.
2. Considering this is mid Feb, when can I target GMAT exam to count for 2009 session.

I took Gmat on 26th july and scored 760/5.0 . (Quant 50,Verbal 44)
I am from DCE a non-IIT college (but top 10 in India) with 5 years of work ex in IT + 6 months in core power distribution.
Eng. Score - 76% (Rank 5th)
Extra-curri - I am actively involved in social work, fund raising for charity and am also participating in CDC marathon. During College days, I used to do event management in Annual Tech fest.

From above, can you suggest what colleges should I apply for?
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07 Jan 2010, 12:06
Holy crap this is one sobering thread. Here I was with a score of 720 and Management Consulting WE of 4 years thinking I could make it to at least one of the M7. Woe is me!

On another not just wanted to ask whether B Schools are seeing an increasing trend in people applying from Big 4 (E&Y et.al.) or small consulting firms in India? I think this is another pool in addition to M/IT which is getting more competitive by the day.
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07 Jan 2010, 13:11
Don't get too tensed about these things. This is a very small sample.
In my case, I have a 700 GMAT and an undergrad from an average (non IIT/REC) university in India scoring ~80%ile, nothing earth shattering. I do have a Master's degree from a very top school in US though and my experience is in technology consulting industry, a very common pre MBA career.
My MBA application journey was long and with several setbacks. I finally cracked M7 (@CBS 2012) as a reapplicant after half a dozen interview calls (all within M7), 2 waitlists (CBS/MIT) and multiple rejects. The key is to not give up and not doubt yourself. This process is subjective, it's not like CAT where you get 99.8%ile and you get 5 calls and 99%ile gets no call. Here, there are too many variables. What we can do is keep improving our application anyway possible and keep trying. This is not easy but it sure isn't unattainable for a desi.

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Holy crap this is one sobering thread. Here I was with a score of 720 and Management Consulting WE of 4 years thinking I could make it to at least one of the M7. Woe is me!

On another not just wanted to ask whether B Schools are seeing an increasing trend in people applying from Big 4 (E&Y et.al.) or small consulting firms in India? I think this is another pool in addition to M/IT which is getting more competitive by the day.

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