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C for me too.
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New post 16 Jun 2008, 12:09
My answer is C. From the argument, the conclusion of the author is "any employers who try to reduce accident should not put any treated employees in safety-sensitive job". We have to find the answer choice that destroy this conclusion. Only choice C does the job. If the employees hide their drinking problem, the accident will not be reduced.

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New post 16 Jun 2008, 13:46
I think that it's important to see that the premise talks about 'Industrial accidents', while the conclusion talks about 'accidents'.

Since we want to weakern the argument, we need to look at the CONCLUSION only and see which answer choice talks about 'accidents'.

If many accidents are caused by errors rather than by alcohol, then the recommendation that employers bar anyone with a drinking problem is weakened.

Answer is B.

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New post 16 Jun 2008, 15:06
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I think that it's important to see that the premise talks about 'Industrial accidents', while the conclusion talks about 'accidents'.

Since we want to weakern the argument, we need to look at the CONCLUSION only and see which answer choice talks about 'accidents'.

If many accidents are caused by errors rather than by alcohol, then the recommendation that employers bar anyone with a drinking problem is weakened.

Answer is B.


Hmm, I still disagree. The stimulus mentions that the Industrial accidents are "more" common. Choice B may be true but it may be just another premise. Imo, the accidents tend to rise when the employees in safety-sensitive job have drinking problem. If these employees keep this fact secret, employers will never know and the accidents trend will remain the same.

I am still new in CR. Somebody helps!!!! What is the OA? :roll:

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I think D undermines the argument since it provides other cause to industrial accidents, the stress from the job, not the drinking problem.
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New post 16 Jun 2008, 21:00
Good CR...

Was swinging between B, C and D...

I would go with D since it shows that drinking is not the problem and employers cannot reduce the accidents by firing those with drinking history...accidents wont reduce as stress is the real culprit...

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Which of the following, if true, most seriously undermines the argument above?

Some companies place employees who are being treated for drinking problems in residential programs and allow them several weeks of paid sick leave
No connection with the question stem - Drop it

Many accidents in the workplace are the result of errors by employees who do not hold safety-sensitive jobs.
"many" does not give enough information. and i think it goes against the premise of the question - drop it

Workers who would permanently lose their jos if they sought treatment for a drinking problem try instead to conceal their problem and continue working for as long as possible.
If there is no record of any treatment of drinking problem, the employer wont bar workers from working in safety-sensetive jobs and still have the risk of accidents - keep it

People who hld safety-sentive jobs are subject to stresses that can exacerbate any personal problems they may have, including drinking problems.
This is a tricky / trap options. It says that stress can increase the risk of drinking problem (which employee already had). please see the word "exacerbate". it doesnt say that due to stress employee will start drinking. So in my opinion this option actually supports the conclusion. It gives another reason to emplyer not to put peeple with prior drinking problems on this job. Drop it

Some industrial accidents are caused by equipment failure rather than by emplyer error.
"some" doesnt give enough information - Drop it

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Industrial accidents are more common when some of the people in safety-sensitive jobs have drinking problems than when none do. Since, even after treatment, people who have had drinking problems are somewhat more likely than other people to have drinking problems in the future, any employer trying to reduce the risk of accidents should bar anyone hwo has ever been treating for a drinking problem from holding a safety=sensitive job.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously undermines the argument above?

Some companies place employees who are being treated for drinking problems in residential programs and allow them several weeks of paid sick leave

Many accidents in the workplace are the result of errors by employees who do not hold safety-sensitive jobs.

Workers who would permanently lose their jos if they sought treatment for a drinking problem try instead to conceal their problem and continue working for as long as possible.

People who hld safety-sentive jobs are subject to stresses that can exacerbate any personal problems they may have, including drinking problems.

Some industrial accidents are caused by equipment failure rather than by emplyer error.

Please provide some details with your choice.


according to the stimulus, accidents are more common when some of the people in safety-sensitive jobs have drinking problems than when none do. This is the premise that you can't deny.

so, D can't be right. We need to find an answer within the realms of drinking problem. C does exactly that.

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IMO C should be the answer on this one

i tried negating C and the argument would not hold
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New post 16 Jun 2008, 23:11
Guys, i know that im sounding odd man out, but whts wrong with E? here the responsibility of accidents has been put on machine rather than human error. y cant we take E as the correct one. Pls explain. thanks

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Guys, i know that im sounding odd man out, but whts wrong with E? here the responsibility of accidents has been put on machine rather than human error. y cant we take E as the correct one. Pls explain. thanks


It's the "some industrial accidents" that makes the conclusion hazy.

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Thanks Sanjay, so now i vote for C

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Option D. What is the OA?

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New post 17 Jun 2008, 12:54
Its definitely C. Cause and effect.

If you read carefully the conclusion is "any employer trying to reduce the risk of accidents should bar anyone who has ever been treating for a drinking problem from holding a safety sensitive job"

BEEN TREATED is the key.

C says : Workers who would permanently lose their jobs if they sought treatment for a drinking problem try instead to conceal their problem and continue working for as long as possible. <-- this means that if they found a new job, they would have never been treated, hence their new employers will be deceived into hiring them since these employers screen people based on the fact that they have had treatment. Hence this undermines the argument.

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OA is C.

I was confused b/w B and C, but thought for 1 min to try to sync it with argument and finally B won.
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I will go with C.

Option 'D' uses ''They may have", implies, any existing problem can be worsen. But what if the person don have drinking habit !!!

Its same like DS problem. True in some cases and false in other.

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C Vs D:

P1: Industrial accidents are more common when some of the people in safety-sensitive jobs have drinking problems than when none do.
P2: Since, even after treatment, people who have had drinking problems are somewhat more likely than other people to have drinking problems in the future,
Conclusion: any employer trying to reduce the risk of accidents should bar anyone who has ever been treating for a drinking problem from holding a safety=sensitive job.
Conclusion is based upon the assumption that employer has a way to identify the drinking problem in people. What if its not true or employer fails in doing so. Obviously conclusion would come in doubt.


Which of the following, if true, most seriously undermines the argument above?

Workers who would permanently lose their jos if they sought treatment for a drinking problem try instead to conceal their problem and continue working for as long as possible.
>> This what v r looking for.
People who hld safety-sentive jobs are subject to stresses that can exacerbate any personal problems they may have, including drinking problems.
>> More in line with P1. Doesnt help much.
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