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Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of promoting the Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil war merely to insure that the industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits during the war. Yet this cannot be the motive since, as the Distopians foresaw, Distopia’s federal expenses for the intervention were eight billion dollars, whereas, during the war, profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars.

Which of the following, if true, exposes a serious flaw in the argument made in the second sentence above?

(A) During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia.
(B) The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits.
(C) Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war.
(D) Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war.
(E) Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war.
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Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of promoting the Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil war merely to insure that the industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits during the war. Yet this cannot be the motive since, as the Distopians foresaw, Distopia’s federal expenses for the intervention were eight billion dollars, whereas, during the war, profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars.
Which of the following, if true, exposes a serious flaw in the argument made in the second sentence above?
(A) During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia.
(B) The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits.
(C) Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war.
(D) Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war.
(E) Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war.
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Industrialists of country D were accused of promoting country D's intervention in the war.
The next statement directly says - this cannot be true because overall profit was $4bn whereas federal expenses were$8bn.
The implicit assumption of the second sentence is that industry had to pay for the war expenses. .
Read the argument carefully, no such thing has been explicitly said.

Now, if the industry was not supposed to pay for the war expenses, why on earth would they be bothered about how much expense the govt will have to bear.
this is exactly what choice B says.
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The answer is B here .

Argument : Industrialists backed their nation's intervention in war to promote their business interests.

Counter Argument : This was not possible because , the war cost 8 billion whereas the profit was 4 billion only .

The flaw is that the argument assumes that those industralists who promote the war are the ones who bear the cost of war. Hence it is trying to direclty correlate between the war cost and business profit .

We will have to prove that the industralists who profited are not the ones who contributed to the war cost and the relevance is not there . B says that precisely.
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Clear B.

The first part states that,

Industrialists motive of making profit during the war was the reason they made Distopia intervene in the civil war.

Second line opposes that by stating,

Federal expenses of intervention was 8 billion $, whereas the profit made is only 4 billion$. Hence the industrialists motive is not money making.

Question - What is the flaw in the 2nd sentence.
The answer is B because, it states that the profit of 4 billion $is shared only among the industrialists, whereas the expense of 8 billion$ is imposed on all the citizens of Distopia. Clearly the industrialists make huge profits. Hence there is a profit reason behind the industrialists motive. Hence there is a flaw in the second sentence.
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I now understood why B correct. Can anyone explain the main answer choices, why they are wrong?

Let's see:
The argument assumes that the 8bn expenses will cancel the industrialists' profits.

A During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia.
(This doesn't address the issue properly. If this is true, we will still have to cope with the 8 billion dollars expenses. Hence incorrect)

B The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits.
(If this is true then the profits will go to the industrialists and the expenses will be sustained by someone else. Hence it's what we are looking for.)

C Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war.
(We are not really concerned with what happens in the aftermath. Hence incorrect)

D Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war.
(We don't really care what happened before, the issue is not addressed. Hence incorrect)

E Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war.
(This is totally out of scope, we don't care at all)

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Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of promoting the Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil war merely to ensure that the industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits during the war. Yet this cannot be the motive since, as the Distopians foresaw, Distopia’s federal expenses for the intervention were eight billion dollars, whereas, during the war, profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars.
Which of the following, if true, exposes a serious flaw in the argument made in the second sentence above?

(A) During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia.
(B) The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits.
(C) Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war.
(D) Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war.
(E) Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war.

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Guys - can someone please let me know what's the reasoning behind correct answer B?

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This is an excellent question.
It is a combo of find the assumption and then find the flaw question.
The correct solution to this question will be very satisfying to the test taker.

Lets quickly break the question stem in premise and conclusion

Premise 1) Industrialist of Nation D are accused of intervening in civil war of Nation A to ensure profit
Premise 2) Government of Nation D's used 8 billion dollars in intervention. (Federal means government.)
Premise 3) Industrialist only gained 4 billion
Conclusion) Since money invested was 8 billion and Industrialist get only 4 billion in return, their motive was not to make profit. DONT ACCUSE THEM

This looks like a very cogent and strong argument. Why it is so strong:- because the argument is assuming that all 8 billion was invested by industrialist
Assumption):- Entire 8 billion was invested by the industrialist.

See it yourself by rereading the argument again this time with the ASSUMPTION
Premise 1) Industrialist of Nation D are accused of intervening in civil war of Nation A to ensure profit
Premise 2) Government of Nation D's used 8 billion dollars as expenses for the intervention.
Assumption):- Entire 8 billion expense was borne by the industrialist.
Premise 3) Industrialist only gained 4 billion
Conclusion) Since money invested was 8 billion and Industrialist get only 4 billion in return, their motive was not to make profit. DONT ACCUSE THEM

Now we have found the ASSUMPTION.
And now we will find the flaw.
What if Industrialist gave only 1 billion and got 4 billion in return. Then it will mean Industrialist's motive was to make profit.

What option proves that Industrialist invested less and made more money and that was Industrialist main Aim. --- to make profit.
(B) The largest proportion of federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits.

Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of promoting the Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil war merely to insure that the industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits during the war. Yet this cannot be the motive since, as the Distopians foresaw, Distopia’s federal expenses for the intervention were eight billion dollars, whereas, during the war, profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars.
Which of the following, if true, exposes a serious flaw in the argument made in the second sentence above?
(A) During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia.
(B) The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits.
(C) Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war.
(D) Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war.
(E) Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war.
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Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of promoting the Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil war merely to insure that the industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits during the war. Yet this cannot be the motive since, as the Distopians foresaw, Distopia’s federal expenses for the intervention were eight billion dollars, whereas, during the war, profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars.
Which of the following, if true, exposes a serious flaw in the argument made in the second sentence above?
(A) During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia.
(B) The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits.
(C) Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war.
(D) Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war.
(E) Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war.

B - if the expenses of the war are borne by others, industrialists are set to gain $4 billion dollars. This shows a flaw in the argument. Here this sounds correct since the main purpose of the argument is based on gaining profit when that is itself attacked in (B) ,it becomes flaw Rest regarding (A) ,rise in productivity does not say increase in profit until and unless mentioned explicitly. (B) is better hence . OA is B _________________ cheers Its Now Or Never Manager Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 59 Followers: 1 Kudos [?]: 16 [1] , given: 0 Re: Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of [#permalink] Show Tags 20 Jan 2010, 12:47 1 This post received KUDOS SudiptoGmat wrote: Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of promoting the Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil war merely to insure that the industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits during the war. Yet this cannot be the motive since, as the Distopians foresaw, Distopia’s federal expenses for the intervention were eight billion dollars, whereas, during the war, profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars. Which of the following, if true, exposes a serious flaw in the argument made in the second sentence above? (A) During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia. (B) The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits. C,D and E are out easily. I need to prove that industrialists of Distopia made enough money from Arcadian facilities. A did not say this clearly. But B is also not explaining this. Explain your logic why do you think it is B. OA is [Reveal] Spoiler: B If the industrialists themselves did not have to bear the bulk of the expense for interfering in the Arcadian civil war and profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars - if this money is not passed on to the people bearing the cost of intervention,it still stands to the gain of the industrialists. They have made money with minimal investment.Therefore it is to their benefit to promote Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil .Hence option B. Intern Joined: 13 May 2014 Posts: 28 GMAT Date: 11-01-2014 Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 16 [1] , given: 43 Re: Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of [#permalink] Show Tags 04 Jun 2015, 03:06 1 This post received KUDOS 2 This post was BOOKMARKED Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of promoting the Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil war merely to insure that the industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits during the war. Yet this cannot be the motive since, as the Distopians foresaw, Distopia’s federal expenses for the intervention were eight billion dollars, whereas, during the war, profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars. Which of the following, if true, weakens the argument made in the second sentence above? A. During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia. B. The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits. C. Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war. D. Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war. E. Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war. Senior Manager Joined: 01 Nov 2013 Posts: 348 GMAT 1: 690 Q45 V39 WE: General Management (Energy and Utilities) Followers: 6 Kudos [?]: 187 [1] , given: 403 Re: Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of [#permalink] Show Tags 27 Aug 2015, 08:19 1 This post received KUDOS enigma123 wrote: Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of promoting the Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil war merely to ensure that the industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits during the war. Yet this cannot be the motive since, as the Distopians foresaw, Distopia’s federal expenses for the intervention were eight billion dollars, whereas, during the war, profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars. Which of the following, if true, exposes a serious flaw in the argument made in the second sentence above? (A) During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia. (B) The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits. (C) Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war. (D) Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war. (E) Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war. [Reveal] Spoiler: DOUBT Guys - can someone please let me know what's the reasoning behind correct answer B? This one is a toughie and confusing one!! The argument concludes that the since the profits made by the industrialist were ONLY 4 billion which does not count as a SUBSTANTIAL PROFIT, the industrialist DID NOT promote the war in order to make SUBSTANTIAL PROFITS. The last lines provides us info. about the estimated federal EXPENSES and PROFITS earned by the industrialist.This indicates a disconnect or flaw. B states that the whole war was NOT funded by the industrialist and that is the expenses were borne by those OTHER than the industrialist . What would happen if the govt. asked the industrialist to fund the war - for example by placing a moratorium on industrial funding or by raising taxes that would increase cost of production, or by using new tax laws for industrialist ...???? B loosely says that the industrialist were kept out of the funding and hence, they made large profits. The rich industrialist were kept out of the loop and the common man was taxed to fund the war. I hope my analysis makes sense. 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Which of the following, if true, exposes a serious flaw in the argument made in the second sentence above? (A) During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia. (B) The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits. (C) Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war. (D) Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war. (E) Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war. IMO A) B) does not affect argument C) does not weaken or strengthen argument D) makes argument stronger E) has no relation VP Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 1381 Followers: 8 Kudos [?]: 328 [0], given: 0 Re: Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of [#permalink] Show Tags 01 Aug 2008, 21:36 nmohindru wrote: spriya wrote: Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of promoting the Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil war merely to insure that the industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits during the war. Yet this cannot be the motive since, as the Distopians foresaw, Distopia’s federal expenses for the intervention were eight billion dollars, whereas, during the war, profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars. Which of the following, if true, exposes a serious flaw in the argument made in the second sentence above? (A) During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia. (B) The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits. (C) Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war. (D) Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war. (E) Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war. IMO A) B) does not affect argument C) does not weaken or strengthen argument D) makes argument stronger E) has no relation Why do u think A is a flaw when it says investing during war leads to increased productivity?Again the argument is about profits expected from investment and how does this option affect the same. _________________ cheers Its Now Or Never Senior Manager Joined: 06 Apr 2008 Posts: 437 Followers: 1 Kudos [?]: 155 [0], given: 1 Re: Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of [#permalink] Show Tags 01 Aug 2008, 23:18 spriya wrote: nmohindru wrote: spriya wrote: Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of promoting the Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil war merely to insure that the industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits during the war. Yet this cannot be the motive since, as the Distopians foresaw, Distopia’s federal expenses for the intervention were eight billion dollars, whereas, during the war, profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars. Which of the following, if true, exposes a serious flaw in the argument made in the second sentence above? (A) During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia. (B) The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits. (C) Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war. (D) Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war. (E) Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war. IMO A) B) does not affect argument C) does not weaken or strengthen argument D) makes argument stronger E) has no relation Why do u think A is a flaw when it says investing during war leads to increased productivity?Again the argument is about profits expected from investment and how does this option affect the same. A) says "significant rise in productivity" which leads to increase in profits. Senior Manager Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 277 Followers: 3 Kudos [?]: 51 [0], given: 0 Re: Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of [#permalink] Show Tags 02 Aug 2008, 01:49 spriya wrote: Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of promoting the Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil war merely to insure that the industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits during the war. Yet this cannot be the motive since, as the Distopians foresaw, Distopia’s federal expenses for the intervention were eight billion dollars, whereas, during the war, profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars. Which of the following, if true, exposes a serious flaw in the argument made in the second sentence above? (A) During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia. (B) The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits. (C) Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war. (D) Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war. (E) Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war. B - if the expenses of the war are borne by others, industrialists are set to gain$4 billion dollars. This shows a flaw in the argument.
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Industrialists from the country Distopia were accused of promoting the Distopian intervention in the Arcadian civil war merely to insure that the industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits during the war. Yet this cannot be the motive since, as the Distopians foresaw, Distopia’s federal expenses for the intervention were eight billion dollars, whereas, during the war, profits from the Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia totaled only four billion dollars.
Which of the following, if true, exposes a serious flaw in the argument made in the second sentence above?
(A) During the Arcadian war, many Distopian industrialists with facilities located in Arcadia experienced a significant rise in productivity in their facilities located in Distopia.
(B) The largest proportion of Distopia’s federal expenses is borne by those who receive no significant industrial profits.
(C) Most Distopian industrialists’ facilities located in Arcadia are expected to maintain the level of profits they achieved during the war.
(D) Distopian industrialists’ facilities in Arcadia made substantial profits before the events that triggered the civil war.
(E) Many Distopians expressed concern over the suffering that Arcadians underwent during the civil war.
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