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B is correct. I don't know about all of you but I don't go by the rules of grammar at all. In fact, I don't even know more than half the technical things that you all discuss. I am sure when I was in school I read and learnt those things but they have been long forgotten. I simply go by the way I WOULD speak a particular sentence. English is a strange language in a certain sense. What may seem correct in one context may not seem correct in another. The only way to tackle these questions, I think, is to imagine yourself speaking the sentence with your eyes closed and feel if it sounds alright. Now, this may not work for everybody but it does for me.
This particular question, it is my belief, is a perfect example that there are no rules in English (if you know what I mean)!
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Industrialization and modern methods of insect control have improved the standard of living around the globe while at the same time they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having gone virtually unregulated since they were developed more than 50 years ago.
A. while at the same time they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having
B. while at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants that have
C. while they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time, which have
D. but introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time that have
E. but at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having

please explain your reasoning..


To me a structure of the sentence has the following logic:

Industrialization and modern methods...have improved the standard of living...while introducing dangerous chemical pollutants...[polutants] have gone unregulated since they (pollutants) were developed...

using 2/3 rule:
While vs. but - While wins. so we can eliminate D&E
In C "which" modifies time
A says that "Industrialization and methods of insects contorol..having gone (sounding awkward at least) unregulated." I think the meaning is distorted.

So B wins.
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Its close between B & D.
I will go with B as 'that' clause in the end modifies pollutants that have gone unregulated.
'that' clause modifies time in D instead of pollutants located in the end of sentence.
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noboru wrote:
while at the same time is not wordy??

I mean redundant. Could anybody please clarify?

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not redudant at all...

while (signals contrast) at the same time (signals 'in conjunction with') ... how's that redundant?
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Industrialization and modern methods of insect control have improved the standard of living around the globe while at the same time they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having gone virtually unregulated since they were developed more than 50 years ago.
A. while at the same time they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having
B. while at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants that have
C. while they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time, which have
D. but introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time that have
E. but at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having


POE

A. while at the same time they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having
Incorrect - Ambiguous modifier ", Having" it has potential to modify pollutants and They (Industrialization and modern methods of insect control) Hence sentence is not clear to present an Idea.

B. while at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants that have
Correct
1. introducing - Ving modifier modifies the subject of preceding clause ( Industrialization and modern methods of insect control)
2. That - correct modify Pollutants.


C. while they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time, which have
Incorrect -
1. Change of Meaning (Sin in GMAT SC) ,
Original Meaning - "At the same time, they have introduced 100,000 pollutants"
Meaning in option - "They have introduced 100,000 pollutant at the same time.

2. "Time, which" - which is modifying the time, Time modifier is when. Even tough Which modifies time, it introduced change in meaning by saying " Time gone viral .. "



D. but introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time that have
Incorrect - Here But introduced an Independent clause and has no verb in it.
E. but at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having
Incorrect - Here But introduced an Independent clause and has no verb in it.
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Industrialization and modern methods of insect control have improved the standard of living around the globe while at the same time they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having gone virtually unregulated since they were developed more than 50 years ago.
A. while at the same time they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having
B. while at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants that have
C. while they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time, which have
D. but introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time that have
E. but at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having


POE

A. while at the same time they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having
Incorrect - Ambiguous modifier ", Having" it has potential to modify pollutants and They (Industrialization and modern methods of insect control) Hence sentence is not clear to present an Idea.

B. while at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants that have
Correct
1. introducing - Ving modifier modifies the subject of preceding clause ( Industrialization and modern methods of insect control)
2. That - correct modify Pollutants.


C. while they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time, which have
Incorrect -
1. Change of Meaning (Sin in GMAT SC) ,
Original Meaning - "At the same time, they have introduced 100,000 pollutants"
Meaning in option - "They have introduced 100,000 pollutant at the same time.

2. "Time, which" - which is modifying the time, Time modifier is when. Even tough Which modifies time, it introduced change in meaning by saying " Time gone viral .. "



D. but introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time that have
Incorrect - Here But introduced an Independent clause and has no verb in it.
E. but at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having
Incorrect - Here But introduced an Independent clause and has no verb in it.




Hi.
Pls elaborate on this...
C. while they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time, which have
Incorrect -
1. Change of Meaning (Sin in GMAT SC) ,
Original Meaning - "At the same time, they have introduced 100,000 pollutants"
Meaning in option - "They have introduced 100,000 pollutant at the same time.
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C. while they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time, which have
Incorrect -
1. Change of Meaning (Sin in GMAT SC) ,
Original Meaning - "At the same time, they have introduced 100,000 pollutants"
Meaning in option - "They have introduced 100,000 pollutant at the same time.


I am not sure what change in meaning is referred above in these two examples, but the easiest way to eliminate C is "which have". "at the same time" is an adverb/adjective[more below] - so, "which" cannot refer back to pollutants.

All, I can see that in the second option "They have introduced 100,000 pollutant at the same time", "at the same time" is clearly ambiguous - an adverb for the action "have introduced", in line with the preceding action "have improved", or an adjective for the "1000 pollutants"[ in which case, we mean that all the pollutants were introduced at the same time, and not "at the same time" goes along with the "introduced" and "improved"]. By placing "at the same time" in the beginning, as in B, we are sure that its an adverb, thus no ambiguity. Having said that, I would not rely on this difference in exam scenario. The "which" error is enough to eliminate C in so called 2 seconds !!

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Can some explain to me the way 'introducing' is used in B. If it is a verb, how can it be parallel to 'have improved' ??? In case it is a present participle, how can it stand alongside 'while', which I understand is a subordinating conjunction that requires a full clause?
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Can some explain to me the way 'introducing' is used in B. If it is a verb, how can it be parallel to 'have improved' ??? In case it is a present participle, how can it stand alongside 'while', which I understand is a subordinating conjunction that requires a full clause?
Thank you.


"Introducing" is a present participle, not a verb. Since this is an official question, it is clear that GMAT allows usage of "while" to introduce a present participle phrase.
(It is important to align oneself with what GMAT considers right or wrong - scoring high is after all the objective.)
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Can someone please explain how in the world phrase "introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants" modifies "industrialization and modern methods of insect control". As for the present participle phrase isn't it important to touch the noun its modifying.

Industrialization and modern methods of insect control have improved the standard of living around the globe while at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants that have gone virtually unregulated since they were developed more than 50 years ago.
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is the use of That CORRECT FOR Pollutants(Plural)
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is the use of That CORRECT FOR Pollutants(Plural)

Hi kavach, the usage of that is in fact most appropriate, since that (when used as a relative pronoun) can only modify non-persons (pollutants here).

p.s. Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses the usage of that, its application and examples in significant detail. If you or someone is interested, PM me your email-id; I can mail the corresponding section.
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Please help me understand how A is incorrect grammatically.

I'm confused on the usage of "Having".
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I find too many ambiguities in this official question.
Do not -while- mean same as - at the same time, other than contrast.
have improved and introducing are at all parallel in OA.

Also having with coma before or after subject always behaves as past perfect action.
Am I correct?

E.g. Having studied for 2 hours, Samiya went to play badminton.
Earlier action: Studying.
Later action: playing

This is the same as:
Samiya went to play badminton, having studied for 2 hours,

Can you help what I am missing?
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Hi GMATNinja @E-gmat

Please help me understand how A is incorrect grammatically.

I'm confused on the usage of "Having".

The problem with (A) is the logic. Anytime we have CLAUSE + COMMA + VERB-ING, the verb-ing modifier will describe the previous clause and provide additional information about the action performed in that clause. For example, "Amy decided not to attend any more Phish concerts in 2018, having already gone to so many that she she'd begun to lose contact with reality." "Having already gone..." gives us additional information about the previous clause, shedding light on why Amy decided not to go to more Phish concerts. It's important to note here that because Amy is the subject of the previous clause, "having already gone" is describing her.

Now look at the relevant portion of (A), "they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having gone virtually unregulated since they were developed more than 50 years ago.." In this case, "having gone unregulated" seems to be describing the subject of the previous clause, "they." "They" refers to "modern methods." But it's not the "modern methods" that have gone unregulated - it's the chemical pollutants. How could modern methods have gone unregulated for 50 years? So while (A) might not have a definitive grammatical problem, its meaning is illogical.

I hope that helps!
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I find too many ambiguities in this official question.
Do not -while- mean same as - at the same time, other than contrast.
have improved and introducing are at all parallel in OA.

Sure, "while" can mean "at the same time", but it can also mean "although." I honestly don't love the use of "while at the same time" because it feels a little bit redundant to me, but it's not wrong. You could easily argue that "at the same time" helps clarify the meaning. At the very least, you wouldn't want to eliminate anything based on that issue alone.

adkikani wrote:
Also having with coma before or after subject always behaves as past perfect action.
Am I correct?

E.g. Having studied for 2 hours, Samiya went to play badminton.
Earlier action: Studying.
Later action: playing

This is the same as:
Samiya went to play badminton, having studied for 2 hours,

Can you help what I am missing?

Yup, you have the right idea. "Having + verb" will generally be the first of two actions. I didn't emphasize that in my post above, because it's also try that "having + verb" needs to logically modify the preceding (or subsequent) clause. And you're correct that your two sentences about Samiya are basically are the same meaning-wise, though we might argue that it's a little bit cleaner to start with the first action ("having studied for two hours").

You can also find a crusty old discussion of "having" in this transcript.

I hope this helps!
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Industrialization and modern methods of insect control have improved the standard of living around the globe while at the same time they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having gone virtually unregulated since they were developed more than 50 years ago.


(A) while at the same time they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having

(B) while at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants that have

(C) while they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time, which have

(D) but introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time that have

(E) but at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having


This question is based on Construction.

The conjunction ‘while’ is used to convey the meaning of ‘at the same time as’. The conjunction ‘but’ conveys a contradiction.

The sentence conveys the idea that two things, albeit slightly contradictory, happened together. So, the conjunction ‘while’ is more appropriate than the conjunction ‘but’. Furthermore, the conjunction ‘but’ cannot be followed by a participle. There should be a verb after the conjunction. Since there is no verb after the conjunction in either of the options, D and E can be eliminated.

Option A has a participle modifier at the end. A participle modifier after a comma modifies the subject of the clause before it. So, the modifier modifies the pronoun ‘they’, which refers to “industrialization and modern methods of insect control” but it is not industrialization and methods of insect control that have gone unregulated. Since the meaning conveyed is illogical, Option A can be eliminated.

The modifier at the end of this option begins with the relative pronoun ‘which’. A relative pronoun refers to the noun placed immediately before it; in this sentence, the noun is ‘time’. Since it is not ‘time’ that has gone unregulated, the meaning conveyed by the placement of the modifier is illogical, and so, Option C can be eliminated.

Option B has the appropriate conjunction ‘while’, followed by the participle ‘introducing’; this option maintains the appropriate structure of the sentence to convey the idea that two actions – improving the standard of living and introducing dangerous pollutants – happened together. The modifier “that have gone unregulated…..” appropriately modifies “chemical pollutants”. Therefore, B is the most appropriate option.

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