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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   01 Jul 2016, 08:49
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I mean that the test taker started out strong, not that the test started out difficult. ;)


well, if you look at the success rate (62% for first part), we got the same number of correct answers...
so it is something else..most likely experimental questions...


Yes, Only experimental questions can differentiate in this particular case else there seems no other reason. If this is true then new insight is that experimental questions can come so early as well.


strange thing though...if experimental don't count at all, then why are these included in the ESR? :)
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   01 Jul 2016, 08:56
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strange thing though...if experimental don't count at all, then why are these included in the ESR? :)


because they are part of the counting. by the way, GMAC is not going to give everything crystal clear to us.
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   01 Jul 2016, 09:22
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I mean that the test taker started out strong, not that the test started out difficult. ;)


well, if you look at the success rate (62% for first part), we got the same number of correct answers...
so it is something else..most likely experimental questions...


Sounds like you overlooked the possibility that your wrong answers are closer to the end of the quarter while the other person's wrong answers are closer to the beginning.


well, again, these are just guesses..would be good to see the difficulty chart..I believe it will clear the confusion here :)
but what you said can be true..
it might be that I got first questions wrong - thus difficulty level dropped sharply in the beginning, making it tougher to get to hard questions, while he got for ex. 4 right, 1 wrong, 4 right, then again 1 wrong...overall, he will be at a more difficult level than me.
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   01 Jul 2016, 11:06
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I see my thunder has been stolen ...

Well, here's my contribution.



hm..smth strange
your quant shows 41 questions :)
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   01 Jul 2016, 11:12
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I see my thunder has been stolen ...

Well, here's my contribution.



hm..smth strange
your quant shows 41 questions :)


Many others' do.

Perhaps I was indeed given 4 additional questions. Wasn't really keeping track of time or number of questions. :)
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   02 Jul 2016, 02:56
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[size=110]One thing that can be gleaned from the ESR data is that the quant section does indeed have 9 experimental questions and the verbal has 11 experimental questions. These numbers were what I had seen mentioned for the longest time, but this is the first time it is being confirmed by official data.


Why do you think there are 9 and 11 experimental Qs in quant and verbal?
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   02 Jul 2016, 11:52
got it HanoiGMATtutor and dabral. Really trenchant analysis!
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   05 Jul 2016, 12:11
I don't understand these pie charts in Time Management section. Can someone throw some light now it? Thank you!
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   05 Jul 2016, 12:29
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I don't understand these pie charts in Time Management section. Can someone throw some light now it? Thank you!


they show how much you spend, on average, on correctly answered questions and on incorrectly answered questions.
Since each section is divided into 4 parts, then the average timing is as well separated for each part.
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   05 Jul 2016, 12:40
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I don't understand these pie charts in Time Management section. Can someone throw some light now it? Thank you!


they show how much you spend, on average, on correctly answered questions and on incorrectly answered questions.
Since each section is divided into 4 parts, then the average timing is as well separated for each part.


Are you sure it means that? Look at achinmasli's report- if what you say is true that mean he/she spent 33% of time in first part for only 1 incorrect question. Do you see what I mean?
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   05 Jul 2016, 12:46
Also the new ESR is scary. With so much information out there, I don't know where it is gonna leads us. Will GSB/HBS soon report their averages in 780s???
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Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   05 Jul 2016, 12:46
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I don't understand these pie charts in Time Management section. Can someone throw some light now it? Thank you!


they show how much you spend, on average, on correctly answered questions and on incorrectly answered questions.
Since each section is divided into 4 parts, then the average timing is as well separated for each part.


Are you sure it means that? Look at achinmasli's report- if what you say is true that mean he/she spent 33% of time in first part for only 1 incorrect question. Do you see what I mean?


i don't think you understand correctly what I was saying.
the pie - average of time for all questions (ex. 12 minutes for 9 questions => 12min/9).
blue - average of time for all correct questions
red - average of time for all incorrect questions.
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   05 Jul 2016, 12:56
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i don't think you understand correctly what I was saying.
the pie - average of time for all questions (ex. 12 minutes for 9 questions => 12min/9).
blue - average of time for all correct questions
red - average of time for all incorrect questions.


Im afraid I still dont get. :(

Continuing your ex. the person would have spent 1min 20sec on an average. Now if the pie chart shows 50-50% red and blue, do you mean she/he spent 40 secs on avg on correct and incorrect questions?
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   05 Jul 2016, 13:01
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All we get as the help from the provided pie chart for time management is that you get to know the average time for wrong answers and average time for a right answer (you only see this when you move the cursor over the red and blue part). As you know the number of wrong questions and right questions percentages from other charts, you can evaluate your timing on an average.


By looking, what I would have assumed is that the blue section is the portion of all time within that quarter that one has spent on the correct answered questions and the red segment is the portion of all time within that quarter one spent on incorrect questions. The average, however throws me off and looks like it is doing the same to a few other folks. (Tell me if I am wrong in my evaluation anywhere here). Thank you for your help!
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   05 Jul 2016, 13:08
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i don't think you understand correctly what I was saying.
the pie - average of time for all questions (ex. 12 minutes for 9 questions => 12min/9).
blue - average of time for all correct questions
red - average of time for all incorrect questions.


Im afraid I still dont get. :(

Continuing your ex. the person would have spent 1min 20sec on an average. Now if the pie chart shows 50-50% red and blue, do you mean she/he spent 40 secs on avg on correct and incorrect questions?


You do not have to assume this. when you move the cursor over the red and blue part you see the individual average time. this will happen only when you open the ESR with the provided link. the same will not happen after to save the report as a pdf.


So just to be clear- are u saying if one's average times for correct and incorrect questions are 1min and 2mins respectively, the blue portion would be 33%(1/3) and the red 66%(2/3)? Thank you
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   05 Jul 2016, 20:37
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Just to pitch in, personally I also do not like the pie chart representation of average times. I get the concept but it throws me off visually. For myself, a bar or any of other chart would've been better. Maybe it is me.


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That visual representation is pretty intuitive to me ... To each his own, I guess.

It does help that you are able to hover your cursor over the pie charts to understand more clearly what they're saying.
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   06 Jul 2016, 00:11
Thanks for making it clear. Wow do you also get to see how much time you spent on each question and its outcome 'correct/incorrect'?

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So just to be clear- are u saying if one's average times for correct and incorrect questions are 1min and 2mins respectively, the blue portion would be 33%(1/3) and the red 66%(2/3)? Thank you


Yes. the pie charts presented in ESR are solely depend on time taken by correct questions and incorrect questions. To clarify the same point i have attached this snapshot with explanation. Hope it would help.

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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   06 Jul 2016, 00:20
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Thanks for making it clear. Wow do you also get to see how much time you spent on each question and its outcome 'correct/incorrect'?

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So just to be clear- are u saying if one's average times for correct and incorrect questions are 1min and 2mins respectively, the blue portion would be 33%(1/3) and the red 66%(2/3)? Thank you


Yes. the pie charts presented in ESR are solely depend on time taken by correct questions and incorrect questions. To clarify the same point i have attached this snapshot with explanation. Hope it would help.


No! We don't get to see the time spent on each question. snapshot of data in excel sheet is prepared by me to answer your query.
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Re: Information on NEW GMAT ESR REPORT - BETA - Upload yours here [#permalink] New post   06 Jul 2016, 14:18
i love those graphs, in which the difficulty level of the questions is so high, that it is even above the chart :D
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