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I think the ans is A.What is the OA?

I think attempt to is the correct idiom.
In E that has begun is wrong.Whenever a definite time is specified (like 'two decades ago' in this case) you have to use simplepast tense
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Idiom: is it attempt to, attempt for, or attempt at?
Here it is "Attempt to", so eliminate B, C, and D.

In E, present perfect is the wrong verb tense to use, despite its apparent consistency with "has been unsuccessful".
Present perfect is typically used for actions that began in the past and continue into the present. It can also be used to specify a past event at an indefinite point in the past.
Here, the "two decades ago" makes present perfect an incorrect tense.
Consider "I have lived in New York five years ago." -- doesn't sound right and it isn't right.

So The correct answer is A.
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Correct usage of "attempt" is attempt + to + verb

A) Grammatically and idiomatically correct.
B) "for ratifying" is incorrect.
C) "for ratifying" is incorrect.
D) "at ratifying" is incorrect.
E) "has begun" is used incorrectly making two events disjoint. The structure "An attempt that has begun two decades ago, has been unsuccessful" is incorrect. Correct form will be "An attempt that begun two decades ago, has been unsuccessful".

Correct answer is A.
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Hi all,
I have the same issue as many others with this problem. Usage of 'begun' isn't satisfying as it should be 'began'. 'Begun' is the past participle form of 'begin'. Here, begin word acts as a verb and not as a participle, therefore either it should be preceded by 'has/have' to make it a correct verb or it should be changed to the past form of 'begin' e.e. 'began'.
Please if any expert can comment on this.
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An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, has been unsuccessful despite efforts by many important groups, including the National Organization for Women.
(A) to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, --- CORRECT
(B) begun almost two decades ago, for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment ----- For ratifying is wrong idiom
(C) begun for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment almost two decades ago begun --- ----- For ratifying is wrong idiom
(D) at ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, ---- --- Attempt at is wrong idiom
(E) that has begun almost two decades ago to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment ----- -- 'Has' is wrong tense, it is not continuing till present
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Hi all,
I have the same issue as many others with this problem. Usage of 'begun' isn't satisfying as it should be 'began'. 'Begun' is the past participle form of 'begin'. Here, begin word acts as a verb and not as a participle, therefore either it should be preceded by 'has/have' to make it a correct verb or it should be changed to the past form of 'begin' e.e. 'began'.
Please if any expert can comment on this.
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Hi experts,

Can some one explain the question posted above. I have the same doubt. Usage of begun seems wrong and it should have been 'began'. Please let me know if there is some thing i should know.

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Dear Sukant2010 and deepak824,

If you change "begun" to "has began" or "began", the sentence ends up having two verbs (has began/began, has been unsuccessful) without a conjunction in between -- not allowed.

The participle form of the verb can act as an adjective modifier qualifying the "attempt". The resulting sentence (A) has one subject (attempt) and one verb (has been unsuccessful). So you do actually need the participle form here.


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I eventually picked A, but the modifier 'begun almost decades ago' made me pause and think for a bit.

It is obvious that 'begun almost decades ago' is meant to modify the attempt in the context.

But I think that the placement of 'begun almost decades ago', can suggest that the Equal Rights Amendment began almost decades ago, not the attempt.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.


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Can someone explain it??
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scheol79 wrote:
I eventually picked A, but the modifier 'begun almost decades ago' made me pause and think for a bit.

It is obvious that 'begun almost decades ago' is meant to modify the attempt in the context.

But I think that the placement of 'begun almost decades ago', can suggest that the Equal Rights Amendment began almost decades ago, not the attempt.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.


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Can someone explain it??
I have same problem...


A modifier may in some exceptional cases refer to a noun slightly far away from it. One such case is when another "mission critical" modifier comes in between the modifier and the noun it refers to. A "mission critical" modifier is frequently a prepositional phrase that cannot be placed in another position in the sentence conveniently.

In this case as well, the mission critical modifier "to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment" comes in between the modifier "begun almost two decades ago" and the noun it refers to ("attempt"). Such usage is acceptable in GMAT.
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An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, has been unsuccessful despite efforts by many important groups, including the National Organization for Women.

(A) to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago,
(B) begun almost two decades ago, for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment
(C) begun for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment almost two decades ago
(D) at ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago,
(E) that has begun almost two decades ago to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment

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Is "Attempt for something" always incorrect? Please clarify.
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Economist wrote:
An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, has been unsuccessful despite efforts by many important groups, including the National Organization for Women.

(A) to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago,
(B) begun almost two decades ago, for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment
(C) begun for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment almost two decades ago
(D) at ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago,
(E) that has begun almost two decades ago to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment

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Is "Attempt for something" always incorrect? Please clarify.


Yes, The verb "attempt" always depicts intention and for intention we should use the infinitive form "to+verb", not the form "for+verb-ing".
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vahabMBA wrote:
scheol79 wrote:
I eventually picked A, but the modifier 'begun almost decades ago' made me pause and think for a bit.

It is obvious that 'begun almost decades ago' is meant to modify the attempt in the context.

But I think that the placement of 'begun almost decades ago', can suggest that the Equal Rights Amendment began almost decades ago, not the attempt.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.


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Can someone explain it??
I have same problem...


A modifier may in some exceptional cases refer to a noun slightly far away from it. One such case is when another "mission critical" modifier comes in between the modifier and the noun it refers to. A "mission critical" modifier is frequently a prepositional phrase that cannot be placed in another position in the sentence conveniently.

In this case as well, the mission critical modifier "to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment" comes in between the modifier "begun almost two decades ago" and the noun it refers to ("attempt"). Such usage is acceptable in GMAT.


But what is wrong in E? It clearly explain the "attempt" and still idiomatic by using "to". I think I'm confused that when should we treat it as "mission critical modifier".
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sayantanc2k wrote:
vahabMBA wrote:

Dear experts

Can someone explain it??
I have same problem...


A modifier may in some exceptional cases refer to a noun slightly far away from it. One such case is when another "mission critical" modifier comes in between the modifier and the noun it refers to. A "mission critical" modifier is frequently a prepositional phrase that cannot be placed in another position in the sentence conveniently.

In this case as well, the mission critical modifier "to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment" comes in between the modifier "begun almost two decades ago" and the noun it refers to ("attempt"). Such usage is acceptable in GMAT.


But what is wrong in E? It clearly explain the "attempt" and still idiomatic by using "to". I think I'm confused that when should we treat it as "mission critical modifier".


The Manhattan SC guide provides a list of the such exceptions to the modifier touch rule.
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so when "begun" is used as a modifier, it's okay to not to have it in non-past perfect?

I would've thought it should be "began". Why can't you use "began" as a modifier?
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so when "begun" is used as a modifier, it's okay to not to have it in non-past perfect?

I would've thought it should be "began". Why can't you use "began" as a modifier?

Hi jooyoung99, basically the different verb forms of begin are:

Simple present: Begin
Simple Past: Began
Past Participle: Begun (Adjective)

Structure of Past Perfect: have/has + Past Participle

Since Participles are Adjectives (Modifiers), begun used as a modifier is correct.

In fact, had the sentence used began, it would have meant that the sentence was using a simple past tense verb and the sentence would have been incorrect.

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An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, has been unsuccessful despite efforts by many important groups, including the National Organization for Women.

(A) to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago,

(B) begun almost two decades ago, for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment

(C) begun for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment almost two decades ago

(D) at ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago,

(E) that has begun almost two decades ago to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment


Tough one IMO, unless you know idioms (I don't).

(B) - "for ratifying X" is incorrect.

(C) - "for ratifying" is incorrect. Also, notice that there is no comma. So it's one long sentence. "An attempt begun for ratifying the Equal Right Amendment almost two decades ago...." This doesn't make sense. "almost two decades ago" needs to be closer to "begun."

(D) - "at ratifying" is incorrect. Aside from that idiom, I think this would be closer to correct if it said "which began almost two decades ago,"

(E) "has begun" doesn't fit with the rest of the sentence.

(A) - This sounds weird to me as well. I wish it said "to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, which began almost two decades ago,"
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An attempt to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago, has been unsuccessful despite efforts by many important groups, including the National Organization for Women.

(A) to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago,

(B) begun almost two decades ago, for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment

(C) begun for ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment almost two decades ago

(D) at ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment, begun almost two decades ago,

(E) that has begun almost two decades ago to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment


D- Parallelism, verb tense, idiom - all taken care of
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