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ronr34 wrote:
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---(-ve)---1----(+ve)----2---(-ve)-----3----(+ve)----


How do we know this?
I know the rules for a regular parabola but not for a third deg. eq.


Check below posts:
x2-4x-94661.html#p731476
inequalities-trick-91482.html
data-suff-inequalities-109078.html
range-for-variable-x-in-a-given-inequality-109468.html
everything-is-less-than-zero-108884.html
graphic-approach-to-problems-with-inequalities-68037.html

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ronr34 wrote:
mau5 wrote:


---(-ve)---1----(+ve)----2---(-ve)-----3----(+ve)----


How do we know this?
I know the rules for a regular parabola but not for a third deg. eq.


It doesn't matter how many factors there are - 2, 3 or 10. You start with +ve on the rightmost section and alternate between +ve and -ve.

Check out this video for an explanation of this method: https://youtu.be/PWsUOe77__E

Originally posted by KarishmaB on 14 Nov 2013, 00:48.
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How, in general do you split a 3rd deg. equation to parts?
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Is x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6 < 0

(1) 1 < x <= 2
(2) 2 <= x < 3


We know how to deal with quadratics but we usually do not deal with third degree equations. If you do get a third degree equation, it will have one very easy root i.e. 0 or 1 or -1 or 2 or -2. Try a few of these values to get the first root. Here x = 1 works. It is easy to see since you have two 6s and an 11 as the co-efficients.

So you know that (x-1) is a factor. Now figure out the quadratic which when multiplied by (x-1) gives the third degree expression

\((x - 1)(x^2 - 5x + 6) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)
How do you get this quadratic? Let's see.

\((x - 1)(ax^2 + bx + c) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)

Coefficient of x^3 on right hand side is 1. So you know that all you need is x^2 so that it multiplies with x to give x^3 on left hand side too. So a must be 1.

\((x - 1)(x^2 + bx + c) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)

The constant term is easy to figure out too. It should multiply with -1 to give -6 on right hand side. Hence c must be 6.

\((x - 1)(x^2 + bx + 6) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)
The middle term is slightly more complex. bx multiplies with x to give x^2 term on right hand side (i.e. -6x^2) but you also get the x^2 term by multiplying -1 with x^2. You need -6x^2 and you have -x^2 so you need another -5x^2 from bx^2. So b must be -5.

\((x - 1)(x^2 - 5x + 6) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)
Now you just factorize the quadratic in the usual way and use the wavy curve to solve the inequality.

\((x - 1)(x - 2)(x - 3) < 0\)

2 < x < 3 or x < 1

(1) 1 < x <= 2
Between 1 to 2 (inclusive), the expression is not negative. It is 0 or positive.
Sufficient.

(2) 2 <= x < 3
Between 2 and 3, the expression is negative but it is 0 when x = 2. Hence insufficient.

Answer (A)


Can anyone give tips on which numbers are good for plugging in for this kind of question?
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ronr34 wrote:
VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:
kumar83 wrote:
Is x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6 < 0

(1) 1 < x <= 2
(2) 2 <= x < 3


We know how to deal with quadratics but we usually do not deal with third degree equations. If you do get a third degree equation, it will have one very easy root i.e. 0 or 1 or -1 or 2 or -2. Try a few of these values to get the first root. Here x = 1 works. It is easy to see since you have two 6s and an 11 as the co-efficients.

So you know that (x-1) is a factor. Now figure out the quadratic which when multiplied by (x-1) gives the third degree expression

\((x - 1)(x^2 - 5x + 6) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)
How do you get this quadratic? Let's see.

\((x - 1)(ax^2 + bx + c) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)

Coefficient of x^3 on right hand side is 1. So you know that all you need is x^2 so that it multiplies with x to give x^3 on left hand side too. So a must be 1.

\((x - 1)(x^2 + bx + c) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)

The constant term is easy to figure out too. It should multiply with -1 to give -6 on right hand side. Hence c must be 6.

\((x - 1)(x^2 + bx + 6) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)
The middle term is slightly more complex. bx multiplies with x to give x^2 term on right hand side (i.e. -6x^2) but you also get the x^2 term by multiplying -1 with x^2. You need -6x^2 and you have -x^2 so you need another -5x^2 from bx^2. So b must be -5.

\((x - 1)(x^2 - 5x + 6) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)
Now you just factorize the quadratic in the usual way and use the wavy curve to solve the inequality.

\((x - 1)(x - 2)(x - 3) < 0\)

2 < x < 3 or x < 1

(1) 1 < x <= 2
Between 1 to 2 (inclusive), the expression is not negative. It is 0 or positive.
Sufficient.

(2) 2 <= x < 3
Between 2 and 3, the expression is negative but it is 0 when x = 2. Hence insufficient.

Answer (A)


Can anyone give tips on which numbers are good for plugging in for this kind of question?


If you mean the numbers you should plug in to get the answer directly without splitting the equation into its factors, then that's a little cumbersome since you must try some values from the ranges given. These values will be fractional (between 1 and 2 or between 2 and 3) and hence plugging them in the third degree will be difficult. Instead you must split the equation into its factors.
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---(-ve)---1----(+ve)----2---(-ve)-----3----(+ve)----


How do we know this?
I know the rules for a regular parabola but not for a third deg. eq.
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VeritasKarishma wrote:
kumar83 wrote:
Is x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6 < 0

(1) 1 < x <= 2
(2) 2 <= x < 3


We know how to deal with quadratics but we usually do not deal with third degree equations. If you do get a third degree equation, it will have one very easy root i.e. 0 or 1 or -1 or 2 or -2. Try a few of these values to get the first root. Here x = 1 works. It is easy to see since you have two 6s and an 11 as the co-efficients.

So you know that (x-1) is a factor. Now figure out the quadratic which when multiplied by (x-1) gives the third degree expression

\((x - 1)(x^2 - 5x + 6) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)
How do you get this quadratic? Let's see.

\((x - 1)(ax^2 + bx + c) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)

Coefficient of x^3 on right hand side is 1. So you know that all you need is x^2 so that it multiplies with x to give x^3 on left hand side too. So a must be 1.

\((x - 1)(x^2 + bx + c) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)

The constant term is easy to figure out too. It should multiply with -1 to give -6 on right hand side. Hence c must be 6.

\((x - 1)(x^2 + bx + 6) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)
The middle term is slightly more complex. bx multiplies with x to give x^2 term on right hand side (i.e. -6x^2) but you also get the x^2 term by multiplying -1 with x^2. You need -6x^2 and you have -x^2 so you need another -5x^2 from bx^2. So b must be -5.

\((x - 1)(x^2 - 5x + 6) = x^3 - 6x^2 + 11x - 6\)
Now you just factorize the quadratic in the usual way and use the wavy curve to solve the inequality.

\((x - 1)(x - 2)(x - 3) < 0\)

[color=#ffff00]2 < x < 3 or x < 1
[/color]
(1) 1 < x <= 2
Between 1 to 2 (inclusive), the expression is not negative. It is 0 or positive.
Sufficient.

(2) 2 <= x < 3
Between 2 and 3, the expression is negative but it is 0 when x = 2. Hence insufficient.

Answer (A)




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