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# it is fine to have a possessive pronoun precede the referent

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it is fine to have a possessive pronoun precede the referent noun.
Despite his humor, Danny could not win over the crowd.

Can a non-relative pronoun precede its referent noun? OG examples please.

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28 Aug 2007, 12:22
A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.
(A) that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
(B) that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him
(C) that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
(D) some Black’s returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
(E) some Black’s return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa

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28 Aug 2007, 12:33
b14kumar wrote:
A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.
(A) that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
(B) that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him
(C) that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
(D) some Black’s returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
(E) some Black’s return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa

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Remember, A pronoun can not refer to a possessive noun.

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Brajesh

perhaps you read my post wrong.

i know that a possessive pronoun can precede its referent.
I asked whether a non relative pronoun can precede its referent.

a pronoun can refer back to a possessive pronoun if it is a possessive pronouin. only object and subject pronouns cannot refer back to a possessive noun.

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28 Aug 2007, 12:35
bmwhype2 wrote:
b14kumar wrote:
A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.
(A) that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
(B) that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him
(C) that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
(D) some Black’s returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
(E) some Black’s return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa

Is this SC helpful?

Remember, A pronoun can not refer to a possessive noun.

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http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... possessive

Regards,
Brajesh

perhaps you read my post wrong.

i know that a possessive pronoun can precede its referent.
I asked whether a non relative pronoun can precede its referent.

a pronoun can refer back to a possessive pronoun if it is a possessive pronouin. only object and subject pronouns cannot refer back to a possessive noun.

on second thought....

although he did not ask his mother for it, Danny was ecstatic over his X-mas present.

seems gramtically correct. thoughts?

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28 Aug 2007, 12:37
bmwhype2 wrote:

a pronoun can refer back to a possessive pronoun if it is a possessive pronouin. only object and subject pronouns cannot refer back to a possessive noun.

Yes you are correct: I should have elaborated more.

Let me read your question once again.....

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28 Aug 2007, 12:41
bmwhype2 wrote:
bmwhype2 wrote:
b14kumar wrote:
A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.
(A) that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
(B) that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him
(C) that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
(D) some Black’s returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
(E) some Black’s return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa

Is this SC helpful?

Remember, A pronoun can not refer to a possessive noun.

You can also look at:

http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... possessive

Regards,
Brajesh

perhaps you read my post wrong.

i know that a possessive pronoun can precede its referent.
I asked whether a non relative pronoun can precede its referent.

a pronoun can refer back to a possessive pronoun if it is a possessive pronouin. only object and subject pronouns cannot refer back to a possessive noun.

on second thought....

although he did not ask his mother for it, Danny was ecstatic over his X-mas present.

seems gramtically correct. thoughts?

You are asking about "a non relative pronoun". Right?
So a possessive pronoun is also a non relative pronoun.....Isn't it?

Any particular pronoun you are talking about?

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28 Aug 2007, 12:46
bmwhype2 wrote:

a pronoun can refer back to a possessive pronoun if it is a possessive pronouin. only object and subject pronouns cannot refer back to a possessive noun.

I think, in short we can say that:

"A Possessive pronoun can refer to a Possessive Noun.
An Object pronoun can not refer to a Possessive Noun."

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28 Aug 2007, 12:52
bmwhype2 wrote:
b14kumar wrote:
bmwhype2 wrote:
bmwhype2 wrote:
b14kumar wrote:
A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.
(A) that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom
(B) that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him
(C) that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him
(D) some Black’s returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom
(E) some Black’s return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa

Is this SC helpful?

Remember, A pronoun can not refer to a possessive noun.

You can also look at:

http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... possessive

Regards,
Brajesh

perhaps you read my post wrong.

i know that a possessive pronoun can precede its referent.
I asked whether a non relative pronoun can precede its referent.

a pronoun can refer back to a possessive pronoun if it is a possessive pronouin. only object and subject pronouns cannot refer back to a possessive noun.

on second thought....

although he did not ask his mother for it, Danny was ecstatic over his X-mas present.

seems gramtically correct. thoughts?

You are asking about "a non relative pronoun". Right?
So a possessive pronoun is also a non relative pronoun.....Isn't it?

Any particular pronoun you are talking about?

it, as seen in the sentence above.

Grammatically looks correct.

Regards,
Brajesh

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28 Aug 2007, 13:03
thanks. just wanted to make sure before i start doing GMATprep.

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